so, not different to woke individuals then?

Woke BS

Everything he said in the video sounds pretty reasonable to me.

me too. I'mma guess that woke is good

Of course it was. But reasonable people like Ted Cruz say things like "The roads are racist, we must get rid of roads", so Lozen knows it's "woke BS".

If you think the folks that designed the bridges said . Hey let's lower this bridge so buses of black kids can't cross your brainwashed more than Steamraise

It certainly is a shame that Buttigieg used the bridge example, because it then allows your right wing media sources to convince you that the entire issue is just "woke BS", when in actual fact, roaf and highway construction certainly has been affected by racist policies in some places.

https://www.npr.org/2021/04/07/98478...state-highways

I am curious what inspired you to dredge up this story from over a year ago, though. Did Saagar recently get outraged about something "woke" leading him to bring this out of the mothballs as an example of the out-of-control wokeness plaguing America?

In culture, there's a battle being waged in regards to woke messaging.


The above definitions are ambiguous generalities.


It's unsurprising the positive definition is popular, simply because it obscures what's unpopular about wokism.



The contempt for wokeism revolves around what a social injustice is, and how it's determined by the woke.


For instance:

Mrs Butterworth had a positive perception across all racial groups prior to the woke taking it to task:


Was existence of Mrs Butterworth a social injustice?

Something that had a positive perception among all groups, was, almost overnight, turned into something negative.


With the woke, they hide behind the virtue of the idea of "social injustice" to essentially destroy American culture.

American culture is overrated.

But dude, they took away Mrs. Butterworth! MRS. BUTTERWORTH!!!1!11!!!

I agree, seems fairly reasonable. I don't know anything about this though, so I read Boba's NPR link and followed it to primary source supporting this idea/policy.

Which lead me to this - a paper grounded in critical race theory...

‘White Men’s Roads Through Black Men’s Homes’: Advancing Racial Equity Through Highway Reconstruction

And that's important because...?

FWIW, the concept long predates that paper. For example:

https://www.ce.washington.edu/files/...o-inequity.pdf

Because crt is an ideology, not a methodology.

Cool. Either the papers and articles are well-written and/or make good points, or they aren't/don't. If they are/do, I don't much give a **** if there's overlap between "CRT ideology" and one or more of the papers, nor do I know why anyone else would.

CRT assumes racism is baked into the system. All their papers do is just find examples that confirm this hypothesis.

Not once does that paper (or any other crt paper) consider whether there are alternative explanations for their views. Nor does it attempt to justify their conclusions with data or statistical analysis (because science is racist).

That's why this or other crt papers cannot be the basis for policy. It's just rank bad science.

racism isn't baked into the system?

No. In the past - and the present and foreseeable future - it was baked into some people in power.

Surely racist people in positions of power is one of the ingredients used to bake the system.

It's not the system, it's the use of the system.

Racism is a necessary and rational outcome of the system. Whether that could be considered "baked in" is semantics.

btw highways being racist is a pretty obvious take. just look where they are built and what they give/dont give access to.

and the racism in the system is a feature not a bug.

Don't highways pretty much go through major cities? I'm not quite sure I understand the argument. I'm super familiar with the US interstate system but I don't see how they are obviously racist. Aren't cities skewed towards minorities? And isn't highway access a good thing?

Cancelling Mrs Butterworth was pretty idiotic. Silly things like that make it more difficult for people to take important issues related to race seriously.

a quick look into the history of where they're built shows they obviously aren't planned cutting through white neighborhoods.. hell tulsa put one of their main interchanges on top of the black neighborhood they burnt down after they murdered all the people.

eta- also, to address the highway access question.. for one famous example, some bridges were built purposely too short for busses in NYC to make it harder for poor/minorities to get to certain neighborhoods, including the beach.

What racial issues did you previously take seriously before your favorite pancake syrup changed their mascot?