Yeah and when they go woke and are wrong get the white women to apologize for the African American that got his facts wrong Perkins I do believe

It seems many corporations employ "wokeisms" to distract from business malpractice. So it is possibly woke virtue signaling isn't a cause of corporate incompetence/fraud, but it could be a reliable indicator.

Look for the companies talking the most about their DEI efforts, and quite possibly if you dig you can find some serious issues they are trying to distract from.

It didn't get any play in the MSM because it didn't fit the approved narrative, but SBF pretty much typed the quiet part outloud in a Vox interview:

"It's what reputations are made of, to some extent…I feel bad for those who get f---ed by it. [B]y this dumb game we woke westerners play where we say all the right shibboleths and so everyone likes us,"

Do you have any evidence of this, or is this just a feeling you've got?

Edit: to clarify, I'm trying to think of how one might come to your opinion. I feel it would be hard to demonstrate that the companies turned to DEI to cover things up, so I wonder what you would have seen to make you feel that was going on. I could imagine that you think DEI is bad and so you expect companies espousing it to be bad and just assume it's a cover-up.

So, for the record, in the previous post I made a conjecture and provided a direct quote as evidence to support the conjecture; and in quoting my post you removed the evidence and then asked if I had any evidence.

But yeah, SBF explicitly stating the "woke" corporate class cynically utilizes "wokeism" as part of a game, gave me the idea that the corporate class may be cynically utilizing "wokeism" as part of a game.

The quote says nothing about using wokism to distract from business malpractices.

I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree on that. Because given the context of what was going on in SBF's world at the time he gave that quote, that is exactly the implications IMO.

You mean the world where SBF was stealing all his customers' money? He did that because he felt he had to be "woke"?

"Caitlyn" Jenner winning the ESPY "Hero" Award was the epitome of Wokeness imo.

Except Jenner is a right winger

Seems like this didn't wind up working out for SBF? What are we supposed to be concerned about here?

Yes.

Jenner even ran for Governor in California's recent recall election.

Conservatives have so perverted the term "woke", they can't even define it.

Before white conservatives tried to turn it into a bad thing,
"woke" was a term meant to signal cultural awareness or consciousness.

lol, she just wrote a full chapter (assumed to be in her new book being promoted) on woke/wokeism.... and then becomes tongue-tied about the subject.

Yep, Imma gunna read what this dipsy-doodle wrote.

Unless I'm somehow interviewed on TV this year, that lady should easily win the Razzy Award for Dumbest Interviewee of 2023.

Could you imagine if this lady was the President? That would be so embarrassing for our country.

I don't buy this one bit. Support for progressive causes, or wokeism, or whatever you want to call it, isn't inconsistent with fraud. But I also see zero evidence that it is a red flag of fraud. I could point you to a million examples of corporate fraud or mismanagement that occurred in organizations that had no particular reputation for "wokeness."

She's so dumb, she'd probably be exhorting her supporters to vote for her on "Super Thursday."

Glad someone that unremittingly stupid could never become POTUS.

Phralad freeman

Also. It’s funny the left is blaming the right for the corruption of the term woke. Like the left is t doing the corrupting themselves by being so ridiculous and pushing things so far left it’s become a caricature of itself

No one hear seems to be defining it one way. Im sure you could ask many politicians what Woke is and they would be silent. Its like asking a Democrat to define What a women is ?

Now that's an impressive whatabout from the master of the genre.

Democrats are fine with leaving questions of sex and gender to scientists. Republicans want to shove a nonsensical definition of woke down our throats for personal political benefit.

OK I'll take the challenge.

Assuming you meant "woman" and not "women" I'm going to go with a woman is somebody who says they are a woman. Close to 100% of the time they will have a vagina. And close to 100% of the time they will have been born with their vagina.

I am not particularly comfortable with transgender stuff. Like I wasn't totally comfortable growing up about gay stuff.

I used to take the subway to school everyday from when I was in 7th grade through 12th grade. I was on the train about 45 minutes to an hour. Gay men tried to pick me up 21 times (though twice it was on a train from CT to Grand Central Station). I thought the tag on the back of a dress shirt was a "*** tag". I thought the word "****" was what should be used to describe a gay man.

The thing that bothered me the most was that taking showers at school after Gym classes I had no idea if I was being watched surreptitiously by a Gay kid. But I got the problem. The alternative was to force kids who were Gay to come out as Gay. Which isn't fair to them. They may be holding back because of potential parental abuse/control or worse, fear of being cast aside and thrown out of their home. Similarly, the treatment they would get from fellow students would likely be damning. So I lived with the shower situation. A little bit jealous really because I would have loved to be able to walk into a girl's Gym shower.

I think the Transgender situation now is more of the same. There is an unease in bathrooms and showers because is it possible that a woman isn't really a woman but a man who wants to be in the girl's shower? And will they be violent about it? It's not like rape isn't a thing in America. Like 25% of all woman claim they have been sexually abused at some point in their life. But the thing is the Transgender fake thing doesn't seem to be happening. There is also the problem of men turning into women in some cases will be far superior athletes (we had that problem with Renee Richards who went from a fairly average professional tennis man to a top 20 player world wide as a woman). There will be rules about testosterone that will potentially make it fairer. But in the end there will be exceptions to the rule. Life isn't going to be perfect.

What is happening is that often parents are more distraught that their child claims to be of the opposite sex than back in my day when parents were distraught about their kid being Gay. I probably would be in that camp at least subconsciously except that I knew a girl in my daughter's class at school who turned into a boy. I also am good friend's with his father. I saw the father love his child and call him a boy (and now a man) 100% of the time. It was hard for me to wrap my head around. But in the end what I got out of it is that either you love your child or you don't. And you either support them 100% or you don't. If it was my child I would support them 100%. No matter how uncomfortable it made me feel. And hopefully I would get over it quickly and welcome their significant others with open arms.

As for "Woke" I would rather be wide awake than asleep at the wheel. I really don't know what Woke means because I haven't really been paying attention. But I am getting that for the far right it is a way to blame Liberals/Democrats for making it clear to children the actual history of this country. Whether it be about slavery and racial injustice, gay rights, Abortion and birth control, etc. The theme seems to be that the learning will make their children feel bad about themselves and/or their parents. But really its just a further attempt to make sure the parent's values aren't compromised so that the children won't abandon the racial inequities built into our society, won't be Gay, won't have sex before marriage, won't get an abortion if they do. Good luck with that.

And stay awake (not Woke) because the children will end up doing what's right for them (if they don't commit suicide) - so if you want to stop it don't fall asleep at the wrong time.

Are Republicans engaging in a moral panic over something they cant even vaguely define? Sure, but whatabout the fact that they also enjoy trivializing transgender people?

Got ‘em with my expert whatabout move.

I am curious how they are trivializing Trans Gender Folks?

Did you log these in a spreadsheet or something?