You are a poker fish. There's no 2 ways to spin this.

I would say its a tragedy if my magnus opus was bonus whoring.

And yet it was you who came in and suggested Deuces was making good points as clearly it was you do not know what we were arguing.

So maybe you need to look in a mirror as you make that point.

I have told Deuces over and over the Results do not matter. It is not about what was determined.

The ALLEGATION alone merits investigation and no amount of 'if ended as a nothing burger' (accurate or not) changes the fact (and you agree) that the investigation was merited.

Riggie stuff, not at all.

Eh, it made more than your building is worth (assuming it has no debt), so safe to say that I was very happy that many people regarded it as a tragedy at the time that was beneath them. Made "the tragedy" last longer, as fewer people would think it was worth the effort to discover and exploit the weaknesses in for instance the Party Casino software and reward system for several thousand dollars a week (for about 8-10 hours work per week) for about 2 years. Quite the tragedy...

You just did a different grind at the time - poker for a few years. Same thing only you likely made a tiny fraction of the amount I did with a lot more variance associated with your choice. Thanks for doing that, as all I cared about was the money in the end.

All the best.

Is that like a Magnus Carlsen? He seems pretty good.

I think you meant his Magnum P.I.

That's a cop out that misses the real issue. A high percentage of republicans don't have confidence in elections because of all the rigging lies. But unlike with Trump/Russia an investigation is not needed because it's impossible to be a fact based person acting in good faith and think anything out of the ordinary happened in 2020 except the loser was a morally weak liar who doesn't really care about the country and democracy.

Yeah we pretty much agree Trump was terrible all around.

Think he meant opus omnibus numeris bonuswhoreus

I quit poker because doing gambling related activities for a living felt like a waste of a life.

Guess that is your choice, and that choice was typically made by those that could not effectively compete in the industry, and its a choice I always suggest to those who cannot compete in an industry. Simply put, you never understood how to excel, so I can see why you would consider it a waste in your life, and congrats for moving on from something in which you were not particularly innovative nor successful. If you actually have any success at something else in your life then you would probably chuckle when someone else (who failed trying it) dismisses your success as a waste. Healthy part of why they are a failure using standard loserspeak. Guess one could call that a tragedy...

All the best.

FLOL.

Your starting assumption seems to be that anyone who enjoyed gambling at any point in their life would choose to remain in the industry if they were competitive. Why is that so? Isn't it reasonable to say, "I probably can make X in the gambling industry. But I can make 5X in another industry that interests me at least as much as the gambling industry, so I'm going to leave the gambling industry."

If I put my mind to it, I assume that I could "compete" as a Vegas pit boss. But I have other options that are more lucrative that don't require me to spend 50 hours per week in a casino. Surely I am making a rational choice.

Innovation. That's a good one.


Doug Polk quit poker and he's the best player in the world.

A lot of live poker players in casinos seem like amusing eccentrics in small doses. That's one reason why it's fun to play every once in while. In very heavy doses, they start to feel like something else. That's why I would find it depressing to spend 50 hours a week in the Commerce.

+1.
Just looking at Robert J.Fisher , world chess champion.

But he was literally insane on a lot of politic subject .

That kind summarized the thread to me !

i know this is going to perturb you but once again we have very similar philosophies in life

i'd like to book action on tien if this thing happens, as a former "live pro" myself i'm very self aware of how low we are on the skill hierarchy

Not sure what enjoying gambling has to do with it, other than perhaps that is what drives some players. More professional ones approach it in a more systemic manner where the sheer thrill of the gamble is not the motivating factor.

As to the I can make 5x more somewhere else, that also depends. This dude quit at a time when the games and the industry were quite easy to exploit for a considerable amount of money in a variety of ways. Ironically the way he likely did it (grinding mid stakes cash games) was pretty much the least efficient manner, unless one was doing a SNE grind. He played 200NL against a lot of other grinders, when I could have showed him how he could make multiples of what he did, even with poker alone, playing 25 or 50NL and then exploiting how the rewards systems worked on some networks to get thousands of dollars a week in tournament tickets. Not a MTT player? No big deal - just register for the tournaments beforehand and when you win the ticket you get cash instead.

He would look at that and say playing 25NL is a waste. I would counter that it made a ton more money, so it comes down to what the goal of the person is. If his was for ego and to gamble then it was different from mine, which was earning money.

As to making 5x more - if he was making 10,000-20,000 a year back then - he definitely should go anywhere to make a higher amount. If he was making 400,000 to 800,000 a year then maximizing that out for as long as one can may be a different strategy unless he had someone rushing to sign him for a 2 million a year job.


Not sure how that applies here. What I did was a simple online systemic exploitation strategy. I did not care in the slightest about gambling and some of my favorite bonuses were ones where I could do auto play and not even have to watch it. I would go for a walk and come back and see I made $500 or whatever. Repeat. Worked for me. In contrast the concept of grinding 200NL as a job (even then) would get the same reaction from me as the pit boss example does for you.

His choice was based on different elements than your choice was many years ago. You quit during the boom period of the industry, without ever understanding how many financial opportunities existed within the industry. You made the right choice for you at the time.

All the best.

Unfortunately for you, once again Tien won't take up a bet.

god, I missed poker skill dick waving contests.

Your name sounds familiar. What name were you posting on before?

You're a live poker donk that wants me to fly to Vegas to get dealt 20 hands an hour for a weekend. Sounds like a good way to spend your weekend Cuepee, have at it.

I was "case closed" I posted here from around 2004-2011 then rage quit during a gun control argument.

Financial opportunities in poker are small compared to financial opportunities in real estate and it's not even close.

It was a no brainer to quit the moment I realized if I maximized my understanding of real estate vs doing it with poker I would be much better off down the road in life.

Best decision I ever made.

Name checks out.