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01-11-2021 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by nutella virus
All your takes are just dog sh*t blm is on par with proud boys as terrorists? Says the guy who spells racist incorrectly on purpose bc it's a joke.
Is this just not for optics and canadian politicians trying to capitalize on recent events in the US?

BLM have also caused billions in damage and atleast 30 people have been killed at their protests over the summer.
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01-11-2021 , 09:42 PM
https://financialpost.com/opinion/te...f-clean-energy

SIte C and Muskrat Falls in Labrador are great examples of why government shouldnt be funding large construction projects.
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01-11-2021 , 09:58 PM
BLM's issue is hundreds of years of systematic racism, proud boys issue is what, too many browns on the tv, interracial couples?
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01-12-2021 , 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by nutella virus
BLM's issue is hundreds of years of systematic racism, proud boys issue is what, too many browns on the tv, interracial couples?
What does that have to do with being labelled a terrorists? Are you saying destruction and the murder of innocent people is ok as long as it's for the right issue?
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01-12-2021 , 12:26 AM
How about Michael Forest Reinoehl, the anti-fa terrorist who stalked and then shot a right wing protester in the head. A clear act of violence motivated by political reasons. Textbook terrorism. When have the proud boys ever done anything like that? But because the are leftists, anti-fa and blm get a pass for all of their rioting, arsons, and murders. Violence against civilians aimed to effect political change; the exact definition of terrorism.
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01-12-2021 , 12:52 AM
We can go back and forth forever, which ofc I'm not doing. Who has blm murdered? Im not a fan of either of these three groups. Afaik, and I culd be way off base, blm is anti racism? Antifa is a movement and not even an organization? And proud boys are openly racist? All I'm saying blm and proud boys aren't in the same stratosphere, and as for antifa, idk what they are or how organized they even are.

Again I'm not an avid poli poster so I won't be going back and forth endlessly like our brethren in the other politics threads. Fighting racism might be worth breaking some eggs, whatever proud boys want isn't

Tldr; racism bad, anti racist gets my sympathy. I'm not educated on these 3 groups but afaik blm is anti racist and proud boys openly racist...could be wrong!
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01-12-2021 , 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
BLM have also caused billions in damage
Billion? cite or ban imo.
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01-12-2021 , 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Billion? cite or ban imo.
IF you believe Axios: $1 billion-plus riot damage is most expensive in insurance history.

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The damage from riots and looting across the U.S. following the death of George Floyd is estimated to be the costliest in insurance history – between $1 billion and $2 billion.

Insurance Information Institute (or Triple-I) compiles information from a company called Property Claim Services (PCS), which has tracked insurance claims related to civil disorder since 1950, and other databases. It provided reports to Axios that the damage from unrest between May 26 and June 8 will be the most expensive in the nation’s history, surmounting the Rodney King riots of 1992 in Los Angeles.

The price tag could be as much as $2 billion and possibly more, according to Triple I. But the protests related to Floyd differ from others the database has tracked – never before have they been so widespread.
Don't shoot the messenger.

Anyone who destroys public or private property should be held responsible.

EDIT: Even I found it surprising the amount was so high.
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01-12-2021 , 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerPlayingGamble
How about Michael Forest Reinoehl, the anti-fa terrorist who stalked and then shot a right wing protester in the head. A clear act of violence motivated by political reasons. Textbook terrorism. When have the proud boys ever done anything like that? But because the are leftists, anti-fa and blm get a pass for all of their rioting, arsons, and murders. Violence against civilians aimed to effect political change; the exact definition of terrorism.
Be sure to hold him responsible if you slip on ice this winter. That is your right.

All the best.
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01-12-2021 , 10:30 AM
couple who contracted uk variant of covid facing charges

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/covid...ms9I9qW-THXcxI
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01-12-2021 , 11:00 AM
"Montreal hospitals nearing critical triage point, when doctors must 'kill people' to save others"

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-...4-5b66b8a299a8


Socialized medicine strikes again.
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01-12-2021 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by nutella virus
We can go back and forth forever, which ofc I'm not doing. Who has blm murdered? Im not a fan of either of these three groups. Afaik, and I culd be way off base, blm is anti racism? Antifa is a movement and not even an organization? And proud boys are openly racist? All I'm saying blm and proud boys aren't in the same stratosphere, and as for antifa, idk what they are or how organized they even are.

Again I'm not an avid poli poster so I won't be going back and forth endlessly like our brethren in the other politics threads. Fighting racism might be worth breaking some eggs, whatever proud boys want isn't

Tldr; racism bad, anti racist gets my sympathy. I'm not educated on these 3 groups but afaik blm is anti racist and proud boys openly racist...could be wrong!
I would agree on this. I think were some folks get upset is the fact and this is more in the USA but also here in Canada is the double standard. Never once did you here the majority of the protesters in Washington were peaceful but with black lives matter I still remember the one scene of buildings burning in the background and people looting and the reporter says most of the protesters are peaceful. Also at one point Don Lemond said sometimes destruction in rioting is OK

Here in Canada we had a Active BLM person tweet basically the cop in Calgary that got killed deserved it. This person is running for council in 2021 and it barely got any news.

Racism will always exist just like homelessness and Murder . I think Canada is less racist than the USA . Disclaimer I am an old white dude so in the realm of things I have never experienced what a minority has experienced. I can only say how I treat people and my friends.


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"Montreal hospitals nearing critical triage point, when doctors must 'kill people' to save others"

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-...4-5b66b8a299a8


Socialized medicine strikes again.
Ill take our healthcare system any day over the USA but sadly that is a reality. I hear Ontario's Models look grim.

Last edited by lozen; 01-12-2021 at 11:30 AM.
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01-12-2021 , 12:03 PM
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Ill take our healthcare system any day over the USA but sadly that is a reality. I hear Ontario's Models look grim.
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/site...tries-2019.pdf

"Overall, the data examined suggest that, although Canada’s is among the
most expensive universal-access health-care systems in the OECD, its performance is modest to poor."


The Canadian model is atrocious, primarily because the regulatory environment effectively bans a competing private option.
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01-12-2021 , 12:04 PM
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/cate...are-wait-times


Wait times have increased 143 per cent since 1993. Socialism doesn't work, what you need is a health care market.
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01-12-2021 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerPlayingGamble
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/site...tries-2019.pdf

"Overall, the data examined suggest that, although Canada’s is among the
most expensive universal-access health-care systems in the OECD, its performance is modest to poor."


The Canadian model is atrocious, primarily because the regulatory environment effectively bans a competing private option.
The problem with our healthcare system is our aging population and how much we spend to keep people alive in their last few years as well obesity and addiction.
Also we do a horrible job on preaching good health. I think the private sector can play a part to reduce the strain on the overall system.

An example is Hip and Knee replacements. If you have the money and want to travel out of the country for the surgery you should get a tax credit or deduction for that surgery. This frees up spaces for others.

Sadly those types of surgeries are going to be so far behind with Covid.
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01-12-2021 , 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Habman
IF you believe Axios: $1 billion-plus riot damage is most expensive in insurance history.



Don't shoot the messenger.

Anyone who destroys public or private property should be held responsible.

EDIT: Even I found it surprising the amount was so high.
Fair enough, that's crazy. I'd have guessed in the tens of millions.
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01-12-2021 , 01:00 PM
it's been easy to blame Alberta's failings on its bumbling politicians, especially with kenney having arguably the worst response in canada. However at some point we just have to accept that a lot of alberta's problems are cultural, and that is a lot harder to change.

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Albertans are more likely than people in any other province to say they won't ever take the COVID-19 vaccine, a new Angus Reid poll suggests.

Albertans are also unhappy with their province's handling of the vaccine rollout — despite the fact the government is exceeding every other province in terms of the percentage of delivered vaccine doses that have been administered, suggests the online poll published on Monday.

Across Canada, 60 per cent of respondents to the poll, taken between Jan. 7 and Jan. 10, said they would get the vaccine as soon as possible. That figure represents a surge from the 48 per cent of respondents who said the same between Dec. 8 and 11.

On a provincial level, every other region has seen increased enthusiasm to get the vaccine as soon as it's available compared to a month earlier.

In Alberta, however, the needle has not changed. Only 48 per cent of respondents said they would get the jab ASAP and 28 per cent said they would eventually
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01-12-2021 , 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
it's been easy to blame Alberta's failings on its bumbling politicians, especially with kenney having arguably the worst response in canada. However at some point we just have to accept that a lot of alberta's problems are cultural, and that is a lot harder to change.
Could you expand on that please Cultural?

Do I think Kenney has done a horrible job ? Yes Though how can you say Quebec and Ontario have done a better job? I am not sure how Rachael Notley had done much better. Though on the vaccine i originally thought most of my friends and myself would take it but it falls inline with what the poll suggests. Comparing provincial vaccine rates is mute at this point with so few vaccine doses. Will see were we are Jan 31

I still say this was a national problem and needed a national strategy. Financial relief came from the Federal government mainly. The countries that have had the most success have had a national strategy.

Just saw this and Kudos on this to JT

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...?ocid=msedgdhp
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01-12-2021 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerPlayingGamble
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/cate...are-wait-times


Wait times have increased 143 per cent since 1993. Socialism doesn't work, what you need is a health care market.
What u need is families on GoFundMe to pay medical bills. Also need countless families going bankrupt over medical emergencies and treatment. Let me guess, not only do you not know what racism means, but also don't know what socialism and capitalism mean. I hope you have velcro shoes cuz those laces can be a doozy for someone of your aptitude
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01-12-2021 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerPlayingGamble
"Montreal hospitals nearing critical triage point, when doctors must 'kill people' to save others"

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-...4-5b66b8a299a8


Socialized medicine strikes again.
How would you solve this problem?
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01-12-2021 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerPlayingGamble
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/cate...are-wait-times


Wait times have increased 143 per cent since 1993. Socialism doesn't work, what you need is a health care market.
Yes in the US they solve the wait time issue by booting 30 million people out of the system. Very progressive.

Strange thing though, if you compare the situation in Canada to that of other countries with the exact same type of system, you'll notice that they don't suffer from the wait time issue to the extent Canada does. So is socializm only bad here, or is there something else contributing to the situation? Please analyze and explain.
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01-12-2021 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Could you expand on that please Cultural?
So super big picture, there are a lot of political and social narratives that weave together to make a province or a country. Different jurisdiction emphasize particular values or particular narratives more. So alberta is politically obviously very conservative in general which has led to some bad ideas being implimented. But it ALSO is more likely to adopt anti-scientific positions in the general population like thinking we shouldn't do anything to combat climate change (or more rarely that it isn't even true) or in this case less willing to take the extremely safe covid 19 vaccines. It isn't a surprise that Alberta has the worst polling in Canada on this. That's cultural.
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01-12-2021 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Fair enough, that's crazy. I'd have guessed in the tens of millions.
Apology accepted. Maybe theres a bit of media bias when after 7 months of riots your atleast ~900 million off an estimate and want someone banned for stating otherwise.
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01-12-2021 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
it's been easy to blame Alberta's failings on its bumbling politicians, especially with kenney having arguably the worst response in canada. However at some point we just have to accept that a lot of alberta's problems are cultural, and that is a lot harder to change.
Or maybe it has a lot to do with Alberta being the youngest province and young people are not overly afraid of the virus and that all long term care residents will be vaccinated by next week.

I think Ontario has a cultural problem. Can they not follow recommend guildines? Another stay-at-home order announced today.
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01-12-2021 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
Or maybe it has a lot to do with Alberta being the youngest province and young people are not overly afraid of the virus and that all long term care residents will be vaccinated by next week.
Shifty, are you going to get the covid19 vaccine when it is available to you?
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