It also makes for depressing, overly-antagonistic forum discussions.

New topic: predictions on when/how the NHL season begins again.

You say this like it's a bad thing????

If depression is your bag, read the report that came out today from the military detailing the conditions found in retirement homes. Unbelievable- if anything good can come out of this, it’s an overhaul of the system. Not sure what it’s like in the rest of the country, but apparently here in Ontario we’d be better off leaving them on ice floes.

Not sure about Ontario but when you check in Quebec , the main problems comes
Retirement homes , specifically the private sector ones .....

Not really surprising tho , private sector is there to make money more than anything ....

Lot of money at stake bit I am still skeptical. They had 4 sites as favorites to hold Toronto, Vancouver, Edmonton and Las Vegas. Toronto has to be out as infection rate still high. Vancouver testing is brutal so that is a no.
I would split the games between Edmonton and Las Vegas. Both Arenas attached to Hotels. Vegas also two rinks by the Red Rock in Summerlin that make it Ideal as well.

I think the 24 team playoff structure kind of sucks for the top four as very little playing time.

Personally I do not see it happening but $$$$ may make it happen.


Correction 10 cities now and the regular season has been declared over



So much corruption in Quebec as well . I was shocked to see Quebec has 1/2 the deaths and total cases. Ranks up there with NY stats

How is that mocking what you think is a bad argument?



Yes I would shovel **** if I had to, I've worked my ass off, made good decisions and made plenty of sacrifices over the past decade to be where I am at and be able to stay home for a few months (hopefully only a few) with my wife and kids, I'm not going apologize or think I'm privileged for that.


600k kids under 18 live in poverty in Canada. That's 9% of kids of kids under 18. For arguments sake let's say kids under 8 could be potentially traumatized from strict social distancing measures at schools. Even if we include families just above poverty lines, it's not a huge number of kids under 8. So for you to come at me and call me privileged for suggesting parents could make some sacrifices for a year for the betterment of their children is absurd.

do you have any study or facts to shared us about this ?
I mean kids aren’t stupid .
They even love play «*tag*».

There is a lot more traumatic events a kid can face than social distancing .....
Your taking as if kids will feel molested for god sake !

This shows pretty significant structural flaws in your understanding of these issues. That you have privilege many canadians don't isn't dependent on how hard you worked in the past. Acknowledging that basic fact has nothing to do with "apologizing" for it, and nobody ITT suggested anything of this nature so a really bizarre conflation of ideas. Most people's success are combinations of hard work, luck, aptitude, privilege, and so forth. Acknowledging that success is multifaceted doesn't diminish the value that your hard work played.

This is such a weird post. Like Montrealcorp, I don't really know what the "potentially traumatized" situation your are imagining in school is? Months of social isolation can be traumatizing as well, it isn't obvious to me how you've concluded that kids going back to school are so mentally at risk. It's particularly weird because most people are worried about sending their kids back to school because doing so might further spread covid-19, but you're worried for rather different reasons.

It's also very weird your comments about poverty. Firstly, it depends it seems on exactly how you quantify it. The first few links I saw suggested 1 in 5 not 1 in 10, but ok. Regardless, a huge number of people. And that is BEFORE Covid19, so for instance a single mom might be above the poverty line but if they followed your suggestion of homeschooling their kid again would be below the poverty line. The point is simple: your initial attempts to characterize these as "unique" is just silly

Bottom line is schools need to open in the fall. To many kids rely on the meal programs and to many parents can not afford to stay home.
No question some parents may choose to home school their children

Good Luck on social distancing kids in Grade 1-6 let alone the other grades.

Reality is Covid kills old folks really old folks. You may have to make the choice to send them to school and keep them away from Oma & Opa as I call them

I used the numbers provided on the government Canada website. Have you seen the study stating that the 3 things you need to do to not live in poverty are: high school diploma, full-time employment and no kids of out wedlock/commit relationship. If you do all 3 of those things you have a less than 1% chance of living in poverty in Canada. So yes without making poor decisions it is a unique situation to be living in poverty.

So now you are trying to pivot to attack my argument on why school may be traumatic for young kids with strict social distancing. But why I think that doesn't matter. You attacked me because I said me and a lot of families I know won't be sending our kids to school if the strict measures are still in place.

Anyway you are insufferable person to debate with. Continiely twisting comments, claiming what you said isn't actually what you said.

How happy are you the socialist are teaming up to keep parliament closed through the summer to have free rein of power and spending?

That’s what I think they should of done from the start....
Anyway , the world will be better prepared if something like this ever happen again in our life time

WTF are you talking about ?
That is too much and you start losing all credibility here ......

The parlement ain’t close and it’s for the freakin covid , nothing about political agenda there except in your dreams
AND
For f.uck sake , Harper and the conservative close the freakn parlement twice for not lose the power in the chamber in 2008 for idiotic reasons

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...rticle4300862/

«*in the current minority government, the Conservatives need the support of one opposition party to survive. Mr. Harper has now prorogued Parliament twice since he won a second minority government in October, 2008, the first time occurred when he shut down the House in December, 2008, to avoid a no-confidence vote*».

Don’t start distorting facts like the conservatism/republican does in south of us !

I disagree. He cannot lose credibility.

Jesus, if Trudeau is a socialist the word really has lost 100% of its meaning. Why not just play the godwin card at this point?

Nice whataboutism. How exactly does that justify the current situation where billions are being handed out every other day. It's good to know though it's not safe for the MPs to go back to work, but it's safe for all the min wage retail workers. Have any government workers stopped being paid? But we're all in this together am I right?

"There's a level of admiration I actually have for China. Their basic dictatorship is actually allowing them to turn their economy around on a dime."

"Fidel Castro was a larger than life leader who served his people for almost half a century. A legendary revolutionary and orator, Mr. Castro made significant improvements to the education and healthcare of his island nation."

Like all freakn countries in the world .
What’s your point and what would you have done instead ?
Please enlighten us ...


On 1 hand you complain he gives money away so business stay close ,
Than you complain he permit those business to open .
Tell me what you want him to do so he doing right by you ?

Oh good, so your evidence that trudeau is a socialist is as flimsy as it was when you accused me of it. Glad to know you have devalued the word to the point where it means absolutely nothing.

Ahahahahhah

Lol

Trudeau is acting like he is in a majority government and will keep horse trading with the Bloc and NDP to keep parliament closed. I realize its not technically closed.
If a Tim Hortons, Dollarama, Walmart, 7-Eleven, liquor store employees are essential workers than so is my MP. Especially when he has spent 240 billion with next to no debate

Frick we allow 200,000 non CDN or landed immigrants into the country since the lockdown I think they can fly to work.

Why do you keep following for this rhetoric?

Parliament isn't closed, or close to it. The MPs are working. There is debate. Like literally yesterday there were 50 in person MPs while the MPs around the country are joined by those new gigantic TV screens they've installed. The leaders of every party but Greens were physically present (and May digitally present). They covid19 special committee is meeting four times a week with a doubling of question time from MPs.

Of course this isn't say there isn't plenty of reason to disagree on issues of process whether that is wanting the private members bills returned or different numbers of debate time and so forth. Ok, that's a fine thing to complain about, as the conservatives did and I don't necessarily disagree with those line item disagreements. It is a GOOD thing that parliament is showing leadership on adapting to the times with a new hybrid model just as businesses around the country should be adapting similarly as well, and I am very sympathetic to any process concerns about that you might have, but drop the silly language that parliament is closed and MPs not working.

And what a bizarre comment about acting like a majority government, when he had to make an agreement with the NDP making promises on paid sick leave in order to get it passed! That is vintage minority government behaviour.

https://nationalpost.com/news/politi...nomic-recovery

Some decent ideas and on the right track. I'm sure Trudeau's will be great all about forced 10 day paid leave and 4 day work weeks.

Pretty small ideas tbh. Temporarily remove GST on a couple industries? And the near zero cost RRSP withdrawls we talked about earlier? It isn't that I hate either of these, but they are just small ideas in comparison to CERB, CESB and so many of the other programs already in there. Besides, didn't you JUST complain about shoveling billions out of the door, why on earth would you then think slashing GST and costing the government even more in revenue would be a good idea?


It's sort of weird to put these things together. One is policy Trudeau is actually pushing as part of the deal with the NDP. One is a policy that is in the national conversation because...uh...the new zealand PM mentioned it and trudeau's completely commentary to this is one question from a reporter where he didn't completely categorically refuse it for all time, just refused it right now. The one that is actually being pushed seems pretty decent idea. Sick leave is often pretty embarassing in Canada, and people come to work with COVID-19 symptoms because they won't get the time off for sick leave. We can debate whether that is worth the costs and whether costs are more federal, provincial, or employer based and blah blah, but the idea at a high level seems fine.

The GSt one I am on the fence on. I agree on killing the two bills and bill C16 should go as well.

If he scraps the carbon tax I would like to hear what his climate strategy is.
I never had an issue with the carbon tax I just didnt think it did much to save the planet.

I kind of thought of it as getting rid of your dodge 1500 Diesel and buying a dodge 1500 gas


I want to hear what we are going to do to be less reliant on China in many fronts as well