I suspect it will be interesting to eventually see the real story of who were the people that pushed hard for this (and good on them, was a wager that won). No questioning Trump was big on hydroxy and bleach, but the dude still will not tell people to get vaccinated in a genuine manner, so kind of hard to see that he was really the driving force behind it. Time will tell. There is simply no way his administration with the morons in it could have done anything in terms of rollout as well as the current one, especially with essentially anti vaxxers in key positions.

The other dude was comparing Texas to Canada, so I did the same showing the total data, not just the current day/week's data that he cherry picked to whine about without proper context. Comparing Texas to New York (which got hit before anyone could prepare) is silly for a different reason. If Texas was the one that got blasted first and New York had a month or two to prepare - the numbers would be a whole lot different.

You will continue to blame him for pretty much anything and everything all the time and the problem with that is that it makes any potential valid complaints diluted. You blame the dude if you stub your toe.

Should get your facts straight Trump has said multiple times to get the vaccine.




Also I've never compared Texas to Canada . Using a weeks data is just nuts. Use it all I was comparing a state like California that totally locked down over Texas or Florida

As well more facts wrong if I stub my tow its my fault I only blame Trudeau for the things he is responsible for and the list is long. The difference here is I can call out a leader that is conservative and incompetent just as I can Trudeau. Sadly many of you Tru-Anons can not. Not saying your a Tru-Anon. Just as I can say Trump achieved some things but is an idiot

Yeah, Trump with his lukewarm thing. Kind of like how he accepted that he lost the election to Biden a few times in similar style comments. How is that playing out? If you look at percentage of people who are vaccinated by state in the USA - you will see that it is almost sad the difference between "blue" and "red" states. Trump had the power to actually change that if he cared, but he does not and it shows. Fortunately for the USA they got leadership that managed this issue properly, and those results show as well.

I never said you compared Texas to Canada. That other flaky poster did, and I replied to his specific post on that. For some reason you then replied with a non-sequitur Texas New York comparison which has its own issues that I mentioned.

Just look at the way you instantly toss others in this whateverburger True-Anon category, whatever that is. That is a byproduct of you being a zealot and constantly complaining about Trudeau for just about everything. Replace Trudeau with whatever you like and that behavior is still the same and you essentially sabotage any potential valid complain you may have because it gets mixed in with the hundreds and thousands of ones you do out of some form of personal obsessive anger. I get that you are not self aware to realize that because you are trapped in that anger.

I know you are not going to change, nor do you need to because a dude on the internet points out these things, but you may want to consider asking people who's opinions you value if your Trudeau thing is a bit shall we say - weird and then see what they say and evaluate at that time if you like. Up to you in the end.

I never said you were a Tru-Anon I would put Uke in that category and a few others.

I have praised Justin on the Vaccine rollout but also have said I think the conservatives would have done just as good. I was very proud of JT when he took in all the Syrian refugees as well.

Were have I bashed Justin that you feel I am wrong on? You think he is handling the Military Sexual Issue well? That is the one issue I have been very vocal on as well as I thought Covid was a federal issue and yes I do realize the conservatives would not have made it a federal issue either

I think sometimes my total distaste for Justin is he ran on being something different but really isn't

I am a random dude on the internet to you, just as you are to me, other than you being one of the people I look to see make predictions so I can bet against whenever possible.

I already suggested that you speak to people you know that actually matter to you and ask them if perhaps your Trudeau thing is a bit out there. If they say - hell no, that other rando dude is an idiot - fair enough. If they have that look of not being sure how to answer that question - well, you can decide what to do, if anything, at that time.

Alberta cases down to 721 today - NICE! Four straight days in the 400s here in BC, with hospitalizations and ICU numbers still dropping rapidly. Things definitely trending well across most of the country.

Our 18 year old son and 21 year old daughter both have vaccine appointments in the next 2 weeks. Whee!

Ontario surprise allowing anyone 18+ to register tomorrow instead of 30+. I have to assume a lot of 39 year olds are not that thrilled that their 2 week wait may be a lot longer. Guess we will see.

Ok, so are you telling me in a few months when we reach those levels all the restrictions will be lifted and mask mandates like Texas?

Probably will be close though we would not have had nearly as many cases or deaths as Texas. Still, they can get a haircut a bit before you, assuming you still have your hair, so there is that. Win some, lose some.

All the best.

Probably be just like the US Conservative led provinces will drop them and NDP & Liberal ones will keep them. Though you will see more folks continue to wear them . Ill be happy to shed mine .



Yup now Manitoba leads Canada & USA. BC is doing a really nice job

Alberta R value now 0.86.

Come on dealer one time!

https://globalnews.ca/news/7871590/m...zeneca-pfizer/

Spanish study, somewhat larger than the last one in England, showing Pfizer follow-up shot after Astra-Zeneca is highly effective:

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The Combivacs study, run by Spain’s state-backed Carlos III Health Institute, found the presence of IgG antibodies in the bloodstream was between 30 and 40 times higher in people who got the follow-up Pfizer shot than in a control group who only received one AstraZeneca dose.

Meanwhile, the presence of neutralizing antibodies rose sevenfold after a Pfizer dose, significantly more than the doubling effect observed after a second AstraZeneca shot.

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I can see the Canadian vaccination rate reaching 80%+ : all we have to do is keep hammering on the news about how much higher our vaccination rate is than the US - there's nothing we won't do as a country to feel superior to them.

This is good news, As well a recent poll only has 17% of Albertan's not getting the vaccine compared to an earlier one at 40%

Reactive, but overdue and correct. I would assume any politician of any party would have pushed for that given the past year.

Hmm, is this interaction you semi defending Trudeau and me saying what he did is overdue and anyone would do it. Did not see that coming!

For uke:

https://ckpgtoday.ca/2021/05/18/cana...tawa-confirms/

Well my magic 8 ball is in the shop so idk. Look bud go back and see how many negative posts I've added here abt this shitshow. There is finally some good news on the horizon. As uke says the good news just keeps coming.

Either way I am outta here in 4 to 5 months so all the best to ya all

Of course! What else are you expecting, that we'll still have the same restrictions in September?

I mean, I wouldn't say with 100% certainty that every restriction will be completely lifted by then, but I'd expect the vast majority will be, many of them much sooner. If any linger, I'd think they would be about mass gatherings. Mask mandates, I believe most provinces never did go as far as some states did, especially outdoors; they should be done by then, but maybe some recommendation or guidance about specific situations will remain.

The dude will be able to get his haircut, and kids will all be back in school this fall and a ton of the restrictions will be gone. Not even sure what the point he was trying to make as all he did was look at the score in the final inning where the USA scores a couple runs and Canada scored zero. He kind of ignored that the USA was behind 18-0 before that inning, and only when they changed pitchers from Trump to Biden did things turn around for them.

I completely agree with an exemption for people within driving range of border states as was describeed. I think the exemption conditions are actually great:
Another excellent policy from Justin Trudeau, thanks for sharing!

oh hold on, you think this somehow applies to the previous situation with the guy who started in Alberta then flying to Atlana, then Texas, then vacationing in Mexico, then back to the US, then possibly back to mexico before going back to Canada. Hopefully you can understand the basic differences between these two things.

So about this Major General Fortin complaint. As much as I thought the other two Generals had multiple complaints this one I really do not think warrants much yet nor should he step aside. The complaint was made this year about an incident in 1989 when he was just entering the military? He supposedly inappropriately exposed himself.
He also denies the allegations

Though Lisa Laflame reported now that multiple sources have Liberals that want the defense minister Sajjon gone and as well it was reported he did not want to look at the study commissioned and never even read it.

Apples to oranges. The previous poll I'm pretty sure was the sum of people who were both unsure and "no". As in, measuring vaccine hesitancy instead of pure anti-vaxxers. So the numbers have come down a bit, but still too high.

I wish it was everyone but I understand why a 19 year old girl who just lost her 50 year old mother to a blood clot from AZ and whose father died two years ago is skeptical. Canada still has no plan in place to compensate vaccination victims which the Liberals promised to do 5 months ago and now its like the seniors issue they say they are weeks away from announcing something and hoping it crawls through the news cycle and disappears.
Reality those folks will be at risk that do not get the vaccine. Vaccine passports will be tough as it requires provinces to cooperate with the feds and the privacy folks. Personally I have no issue with it

On a added note if I want my second dose of AZ I have to sign a waiver first specific to the AZ. Please explain that to me. I will be going with the Pfizer for my second

From what I can tell, most anti-vaxxers aren't the tiny percentage who have had a bad experience in their family, it's two big camps. The first is alt-right "freedom" types who are against masks, vaccines, social distancing, all of that as part of a far right ideological view of the world, and also don't believe in climate change, for instance. The other is on the complete opposite end of the spectrum, a sort of far "left" perhaps. These are the types who believe in homeopathy and third eyes and who knows what else. Also extremely distrustful of science but for quite different reasons. I think the first group is larger, but that ratio is probably more to the former in Alberta then BC who have a lot of the latter types (I have one of these in my family)

As for AZ, hopefully the data from the UK study will support that choice. From my understanding the second AZ shot is much much less risky than the first so I don't think there is much need to hesitate, but there is indeed a strong potential mix and match will be best choice.

oh a spanish study came in with great results going AZ -> Pfizer: https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...tive-1.5433451

Yeah pretty much but my attitude is if 75% get vaccinated according to science we are safe. Those that choose not to expose themselves to contracting the disease and about less than 1% chance of dying. Many will say what about the burden they place on our health care system? Well smokers and obesity put a strain on it as well.

I think the only way you get many of those non vaccinated folks vaccinated is a mandatory covid passport to leave Canada especially to the USA