Huh? Pretty sure he probably did some shiit that night. Out of the 4 people Rittenhouse shot at, 4 of them have criminal records. Shocker.

Regardless, it is of no relevance to the shootings. You're not allowed to kill someone because they're a rioter. I'm guessing you didn't see the video because Rosenbaum sure as shiit seemed more of an immediate threat than the chick with a Trump flag as a superhero cape. Both of them advanced on a person with a firearm and found out they go bang.

That is a dumb thing to say.

The threat posed by Ashli Babbit is the mob threat and it is absolute.

You cannot, CANNOT, consider it in the context of her as a loan person and need to understand that if the cop refuses to shoot she is the first of a stream of rioters all of whom are using the same tactic over and over to overwhelm the police and then have complete control of the area.

If you think it is harmless, get together a number of friend and try to approach Joe Biden, ignore his secret service, show you have no guns in your hands and just try to push past the secret service. They will stop you one way or the other as they will never surrender his safety to you or a mob HOPING for the best after the fact.

Once they had no more line of retreat, shooting or surrendering becomes the only options and option 2 is not an option.

It seems you've wisely let the suicide argument go, but I didn't want to leave this unanswered.

Sure, there are multiple factors in any comparison, but there are going to be far less when comparing within the same country.

Don't bold the phrase "more of an immediate threat" and then disregard the meaning of the words more and immediate. Seconds count in self-defense situations.

I never considered the context as her being a loan [sic] person. Yes, the Capitol situation was a bigger threat, but not more immediate when the shooting occurred. There is no question that Rosenbaum would have made contact (the defense argued that he did make contact) with Rittenhouse before MAGA woman would have made contact with the cop, hence the word immediate. If you disagree with that, then you haven't watched either video.

One could argue that had he but a bullet in the wall 6" away from her head, she would have stopped trying to climb through the window, but that's not how it works in the real world and having her fall back into the crowd with blood all over the place is a far better deterrent.

You've probably have been to NYC, but have you been to Wyoming?

In that case you have my apologies Lag, hadn't read your earlier posts and my bad.

Not that it's in any way relevant, but yes. Multiple times to both.

This Guy is Claiming Self Defense

Don’t see how can get away without being convicted. Obviously this guy should have never had access to a gun.

To me that’s the most interesting hypothetical, what if gaige had capped KR?

It's relevant. See response below.

Convicted? He hasn't even been charged. That's Texas. He's on his property and refuses to leave and then said he'd better use it or he'll take it from him and use it himself. Then he tried to take it. Another bad ass bar brawler loses to an AR15.

It's clear murder in most states, but not in No Fvcks Given Texas.

Anywho, the most interesting thing to be gleaned from the interaction is dude is laying dead on the ground and they're both still arguing about why they are there to pick up the kid.

Rosenbaum probably did some sh*t. So you have no proof of him doing anything yet you compare him to a no-no word who violently entered the nation’s capital chanting, “Hang Mike Pence” then got whacked attempting to do just that? Ok. Man you’re an idiot.

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GG is a pussy who didn’t have the stones to do the right thing and pull the trigger. He froze. Had he been a real man and smoke KR he would have rightfully been a hero stopping an active shooter and probably been awarded a Presidential Medal of Freedom.

This seems mostly accurate to me. It’s kind of crazy that for all the laws and rules we have in modern society, at that moment it was a gunfight from the wild west.

I think dude not being even charged in Texas for that shooting clearly indicates that ideologies are quite different in certain states; almost like they're different countries in ways.

Oh, well we both can play that game: show us the video of her chanting to hang Mike Pence. I'll wait.

Point is dude was attacking him and he defended himself. None of the other stuff is relevant. Pretty clearly you have not seen this guy's rap sheet. He was not a nice person. That's not relevant to the shooting either, but it makes it plausible he was there to do some shiit and very likely did.

He didn't have a clean shot until he tried to take one. All the other attackers were in his way.

Anywho, I realize you hate Trumpers and Rittenhouse was a Trumper so you have to take an opposing side, but when you start painting out people like Rosenbaum to be some kind of saint and hero, I think it's time to get your TDS looked at.

Yet none of you can answer this specific question, what action did he take that put KR in grave danger?

Please quote examples where I have exalted Rosenbaum as a saint. I mean, I know that feeble-minded people resort to victim bashing once they’ve realized they are wrong, but I’ve made no statements pertaining to Rosenbaum’s character.

JFC did you watch the trial?

No "line-item veto" required for the above; I agree with every line!

No problema!

The Left essentially elevated Mr. Floyd to Sainthood after he was murdered by Officer Chauvin.

What Officer Chauvin did was obviously much more heinous than anything Mr. Floyd ever did, but Mr. Floyd was a horrible person by any standard. (e.g. He literally pointed a gun at the belly of a pregnant woman during a robbery he was part of.).

A case of an evil guy murdering someone who was merely a horrible guy.

Bottom line: Nobody should be considered a saint just because they are murdered by a sinner.

Great answer to a specific question. Your mom must be very proud of you.

Whaddabout not necessary. They're all pieces of shiit, but it's comical how hyperpartisans have to paint a picture that's not true just to justify their partisanship. I don't care if it's left or right; they're both toxic and delusional.

Did we all watch the same video? I don't see any jury anywhere in America finding that this was not self-defense.