Yeah, it's weird how people get all sympathetic toward the guy who got shot in the back by the police. Almost as if he were a victim or something.

The issue is in these situations police are under a lot pressure, and sometimes they choke:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ha/3454010001/

Trump actually has a point. He's just saying it in his usual callous, inhumane, devoid of all human empathy way.

Because for some reason all of the protesters become rioters when even a single one of them act out.

i guess i could buy that police are under such stress/pressure (i could never do their job) that they sometimes get the yips and start killing black people willy nilly

but that implies a loss of function as a police officer, like that person who got the yips should be furloughed because they can no longer be trusted to perform their basic duty

doesnt look like the union or anyone else is taking the yips defense though. theyre arguing that what looks like a 3 foot putt on video was actually a 30 foot putt with windmills and other minigolf obstacles in the way, and theyre patting the officers on the back for their haphazard attempt at sinking it

Well isn't that what this really boils down to?

"If it saves just one life..."

The problem with that is the selective application of that sentiment. Cops making a fatal mistake is bad and unacceptable to the point we should dismantle the entire law enforcement system to prevent it from happening in the future.

Judges letting career criminals out back on the street to accidentally kill another 8 year old girl in a driveby is an unfixable mistake because reasons.

Some of these soundbytes over the recent events have been rather cringeworthy. Understandably upset families are out there spouting off about how cops are mowing down black people left and right, but these same people ignore the dozens or hundreds of other black people that have been killed in their own community, often times by people who should already be sitting in a cell.

Cops are not the problem. George Floyd and Jacob Blake would both be alive today if they had simply followed basic instructions.

Then we have the armchair civil rights leaders on this forum acting like the cops are supposed to completely ignore the fact that they have a target on their collective backs while they're policing dangerous neighborhoods. We're not too far removed from the two police officers who were shot in the head while just sitting in their patrol car doing absolutely nothing at all. Cops are human, and if you think they can completely detach that reality from their daily routine, you're just delusional.

Failure to follow basic instructions should never be a death sentence, and it almost never is for white people. And, cops who kill should be held accountable.

LOL, irony explosion. Turns out if it saves just one blue life it's all good to Inso0.

Can you post the link to your source for your claim that white people are less likely to be shot by police for not following "basic instructions" than black people please? It is awesome that a study was done on this. Why isn't BLM talking about this more?

We're supposed to pretend Tamir Rice and Charles Kinsey never existed? You can play a flawless game of 'Simon Says' with the police and still end up shot dead in the street.

Well that's just not true.

Failure to follow basic instructions can be a death sentence in any number of instances.

Don't drive the wrong way on the highway. Don't place metal objects in electrical sockets. Don't forget to take your heart medicine. Pull the rip cord on your parachute above 3000ft.

The list is endless.

When you know you have a long rap sheet, tell the cops you have a weapon, and then reach for something hidden from view after the cops have already tazed you and told you numerous times to stop, I no longer believe that you have a reasonable expectation of safety.

Or if we didn't have racist, homicidal cops.

These are outliers, just as George Floyd and Jacob Blake are.

Outliers are impossible to avoid, but are significantly less likely to occur if you just do what cops tell you to do during a confrontation.

"Ok, then what abou--"
"Outliers."

Louisville cops offered Jamarcus Glover a plea deal if he included Breonna Taylor as part of an "organized crime syndicate"

I think I found where mickey was getting his super special secret inside info from!

How many hundreds or thousands of times do we have to watch an unarmed black man/woman/child cooperating with the police and end up beaten, tased, and/or shot before they aren't just outliers?

By your logic, an American Airlines pilot could crash into a mountainside on Friday, on Monday it could happen again, the following month another plane could go down, etc etc etc... and AA could just hand wave it off and say that their planes don't crash into mountains, except for a few outliers.

Oh, right, cops are inanimate objects with no agency of their own, yet somehow they kill a disproportionate number of Black people.

The problems are:

#1 with a bullet: Blanket immunity for cops to say they were scared, or having to prove evil intent, when a normal citizen would probably not be able to claim reasonable enough fear to respond with deadly force. Thank Scalia and a ton of crappy state laws - like the Washington law that just got overturned by I-940.

#2: Rotten cultures in police departments that encourage and abet stuff like "chasing ink".

#3 - overfunded, militarized police departments

Also racism, but that's a given.

Florida 'antifa hunter' gets 3 years for stalking a BLM activist

Notably, it was small news some of you may have seen when the target of this stalking withdrew from running for city government because of the harassment and threats

Swell guy

Yeah, I'd say 10 out of however many millions of encounters there are is sufficiently low to be called outliers.


Interesting that you'd cite hundreds/thousands when we're really talking maybe dozens over however many years. You're part of the problem.

Also, airline crashes are outliers. What people are asking to happen here is to shut down any and all air travel because a plane crashed into a mountain. Bad example to begin with because flight is a matter of physics, not something so inconsistent and unreliable as human interactions. If your flight controls are acting up and at serious risk of crashing your airplane, you don't just ask them nicely to behave and hope it gets better before you crash. You shut that **** down and pull the emergency lever to bypass the dangerous situation.

When you think about it, Inso's argument boils down to his idea that Black people are worse at following police instructions than the general population, which is why they face police brutality more often. And if only Black people followed instructions better, then those poor cops would stop killing them.

You think that *maybe* only dozens of Black people have faced police brutality? (implying that the true number is perhaps less than 2 dozen) What a horrendous display of lying or ignorance.

White police officer in South Carolina thinks he gets to use the n-word to black people if they use it first

Dude is suspended without pay, but only because it was caught on video!

Of course it is. Black people only get killed more because they're worse at following directions. He's also sure they're worse drivers, less worthy of employment, worse tenants, more violent, and worse at following the law. He's also sure that he's not racist.

I mean if airline crashes in the United States happened as often as police officers killing a black person under questionable circumstances the entire airline industry would shut down from people being scared to fly, no?

What's missing from your analogy is that "one" is not quite the number of airplanes that have crashed into a mountain!