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08-26-2020 , 11:22 PM

#5951

goofyballer

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If anyone's curious about the kinds of things retrograde racists were saying during the strife of the Civil Rights movement in this country, look no further:

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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas

l think we are seeing the self-destruction of our society. I really don't think the left is going to stop until we are at war, and you have right reactionaries playing right into it. I've never been closer to owning a gun than I'm today. I'm not going to be on the side of people burning **** down becasue of a people who physically, and violently resist law enforcement and get themselves shot, but before knowing any of that, the left screams racism to get people rioting.

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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas

What I see is American cities burning, repeatedly, and it's in the name of anti-racism. I see our media deliberately posting inflammatory and factless articles before much of anything is known about these shootings (knowing full well the rage it will generate, and knowing full well there is an appetite for that rage in our society). I see our politicians talking about racism before any of the facts were knowns bout this situation, including the presumptive next POTUS, who basically lost my vote when he did it.

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08-26-2020 , 11:22 PM

#5952

joe6pack

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Who would have thought resisting arrest with weapons involved could have a bad outcome?

I wonder how many cases it will take for the message to sink in.

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08-26-2020 , 11:23 PM

#5953

chezlaw

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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas

The violent rage is for a few and they make a lot of noise. But most of the left want peaceful protest and reform - which is why so few people are involve.

The big protests are overwhelming peaceful.

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08-26-2020 , 11:23 PM

#5954

itshotinvegas

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

If anyone's curious about the kinds of things retrograde racists were saying during the strife of the Civil Rights movement in this country, look no further:

I think you should be ashamed to link burning buildings down in the name of a violent armed felon resisting arrest who got shot by cops with the Civil Rights Movement. But keep calling people racist.

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08-26-2020 , 11:23 PM

#5955

Schlitz mmmm

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Originally Posted by #Thinman

yes, millions of people in the streets of every city in the country and they are all burning down to the city limits and nobody will do...

wait...

huh?

couple hundred people you say??? and a few buildings?????

...yeah, sounds just like "the self-destruction of our society"

well, Chris Hedges thinks Balkanization is very possible in this country, so your little nerf supposition would be sent into orbit from the scales of serious thought if it had any mass.

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08-26-2020 , 11:28 PM

#5956

itshotinvegas

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Originally Posted by chezlaw

Racist are overwhelmingly peaceful as well. The issue is the extremist. The fact the left does not acknowledge they have an extremist problem and they are feeding it, is bonkers. It's exactly the "few bad apples" argument. There are more bad apples in these protest than there are bad police.

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08-26-2020 , 11:35 PM

#5957

Schlitz mmmm

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chezlaw, you are soothing my soul! thank you

it is the squeaky wheel. you are correct, and that's reassuring

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08-26-2020 , 11:37 PM

#5958

itshotinvegas

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I'm just going to go back to playing New World. Turn the world off.

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08-26-2020 , 11:40 PM

#5959

Schlitz mmmm

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great idea! be best!

reconvene here sometime in the future

politics is a bad trip, bro

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08-26-2020 , 11:49 PM

#5960

chezlaw

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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas

I don't know it's a big enough to be a problem in the way you suggest but we do acknowledge that some are violent and that that is unacceptable even if we understand it.

I'd agree with the need to be very clear that we are peaceful.

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Originally Posted by Schlitz mmmm

chezlaw, you are soothing my soul! thank you

it is the squeaky wheel. you are correct, and that's reassuring

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08-26-2020 , 11:54 PM

#5961

Trolly McTrollson

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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas

I see our politicians talking about racism before any of the facts were knowns bout this situation, including the presumptive next POTUS, who basically lost my vote when he did it.

iHIV was *just* about to vote for Biden when all this happened. Great work, guys. Y'all cost the Democrats our most reliable voting block: MAGA chuds on the internet pretending to be persuadable voters.

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08-26-2020 , 11:56 PM

#5962

PoBoy321

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Tonight at the RNC Pence talked about a police officer who was killed by an alt-right boogaloo boy. Last night, a blue lives matter activist shot three people, murdering two. There is a problem with violent extremism, and it exists on the right.

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08-27-2020 , 12:01 AM

#5963

goofyballer

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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas

I think you should be ashamed to link burning buildings down in the name of a violent armed felon resisting arrest who got shot by cops with the Civil Rights Movement. But keep calling people racist.

Jacob Blake was not a felon, as best as I can tell. Do you have a source I couldn't find, or are you lying yet again?

And my post was of course not just based on what you've said about people marching for Jacob Blake in Kenosha, but based on what you've said about every racial justice protest in this country in 2020. You know that you would have hated MLK 55 years ago, and the only reason you like him now (assuming you do - maybe you don't! He liked socialism!) is because you were born way later with the benefit of hindsight and the perspective of history, right?

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08-27-2020 , 12:06 AM

#5964

Trolly McTrollson

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Originally Posted by joe6pack

Who would have thought resisting arrest with weapons involved could have a bad outcome?

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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas

I think you should be ashamed to link burning buildings down in the name of a violent armed felon resisting arrest who got shot by cops with the Civil Rights Movement.

Ay yo, forum mods: is this blatantly dishonest "armed with weapons" lie something you're going to allow to be bandied about here?

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08-27-2020 , 12:27 AM

#5965

MrWookie

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

Ay yo, forum mods: is this blatantly dishonest "armed with weapons" lie something you're going to allow to be bandied about here?

Lies, as long as they're spouted by the mainstream right, have always been just fine here.

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08-27-2020 , 12:32 AM

#5966

itshotinvegas

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There is video evidence of him committing a felony, maybe you all have not seen it.

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946.415 Failure to comply with officer's attempt to take person into custody.
(1) In this section, “officer" has the meaning given in s. 946.41 (2) (b).
(2) Whoever intentionally does all of the following is guilty of a Class I felony:
(a) Refuses to comply with an officer's lawful attempt to take him or her into custody.
(b) Retreats or remains in a building or place and, through action or threat, attempts to prevent the officer from taking him or her into custody.
(c) While acting under pars. (a) and (b), remains or becomes armed with a dangerous weapon or threatens to use a dangerous weapon regardless of whether he or she has a dangerous weapon.

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08-27-2020 , 12:32 AM

#5967

Rococo

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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas

l think we are seeing the self-destruction of our society. I really don't think the left is going to stop until we are at war, and you have right reactionaries playing right into it. I've never been closer to owning a gun than I'm today. I'm not going to be on the side of people burning **** down becasue of a people who physically, and violently resist law enforcement and get themselves shot, but before knowing any of that, the left screams racism to get people rioting.

If this guy did this during an armed robbery, and got himself shot, we'd call him an idiot.

Hysterical much? Bolded is ridiculous.

I agree that our society is going downhill, but it's because the gulf between the haves and the have-nots seems like an intractable problem. I suspect that we are heading into a long, slow period of decay--a period in which the haves grudgingly agree to modest expansions of the safety net, but no meaningful progress is made on the underlying structural issues that make the safety net necessary. That's probably the best case scenario. I don't see any better outcomes that are realistically achievable.

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08-27-2020 , 12:42 AM

#5968

MrWookie

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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas

There is video evidence of him committing a felony, maybe you all have not seen it.

Oh, right, not innocent until proven guilty. Guilty when you say so.

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08-27-2020 , 12:44 AM

#5969

itshotinvegas

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Originally Posted by MrWookie

Oh, right, not innocent until proven guilty. Guilty when you say so.

I also called the cop who murdered Floyd a murderer, did not seem to have much issue there. None of you who are raising this objection did.

Spare me your ****ing hypocrisy.

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08-27-2020 , 12:49 AM

#5970

goofyballer

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Where in the video can we see the knife you say he was armed with that was found not on his person, but on the floor of his car? Seems like a pretty important piece of evidence for him to be a FELON.

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08-27-2020 , 12:50 AM

#5971

kre8tive

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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas

Make excuses. It's the same bullshit. You will defend a sexual assaulter, domestic abuser, a resistor of arrest

He might defend one, but you don't seem to have a problem voting for one.

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Originally Posted by Schlitz mmmm

like was asked of Muslims, we are legit at the point where moderate leftists and blacks need to condemn the radicalized elements at the fringes of their ideology.

The entire GOP has been overtaken by fringe radicals and crackpot conspiracy theorists. It's almost a certainty that a QAnon whackjob will be elected into the Unites States House of Representatives.

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08-27-2020 , 12:51 AM

#5972

MrWookie

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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas

I also called the cop who murdered Floyd a murderer, did not seem to have much issue there. None of you who are raising this objection did.

Spare me your ****ing hypocrisy.

It's because resisting arrest is a bullshit offense that cops throw around lightly based on nothing, but murder leaves a dead body behind. Hope this helps.

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08-27-2020 , 12:53 AM

#5973

goofyballer

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Originally Posted by kre8tive

He might defend one, but you don't seem to have a problem voting for one.

He defends that one too (but thinks he deserves some kind of ****ing medal for doing so in under 10% of his posts, apparently!)

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08-27-2020 , 12:57 AM

#5974

EADGBE

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

Ay yo, forum mods: is this blatantly dishonest "armed with weapons" lie something you're going to allow to be bandied about here?

I think its a bit more nuanced than he was/was not armed. Police are claiming that Blake told them he was armed, whatever that is worth, and a knife was recovered from the floorboards. Arguably, Blake was going for the knife when he opened the car door.

I agree that he was not "armed" in the common understanding of the word. The rightys seem to disagree. Don't know that I can call this an outright lie.

So that's about where I am at on that.