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05-31-2020 , 09:58 PM
So no significant activity tonight in regards to riots?
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05-31-2020 , 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
It's a realist attitude.



There's the rub. This murderer, is a murderer, and it's not a result of bad policing, it was the result of bad intentions. Your extrapolating this murderers bad intentions on all of the police.

You want to get less bad cops, sure, do I. The policing isn't the issue in this case, it's the bad intentions, whatever they were.
False.

It is not ONLY bad policing is a better statement. But policing is a problem as so many people have provided you data on.

But the bigger issue is the ignoring of the issues.

People now PRETEND they want peaceful protests when in FACT when things were not inflamed and it is the best time to have peaceful protests and address the issues while passions are not inflamed, those in power will not allow it.

If someone like Colin Kaepernic wants to protest peacefully and raise awareness of the issue that he thinks needs to be discussed those in power show him that they will try to ruin his career and crush him financially.

The FACT of the matter is the attitude is 'Shut up about this, we don't give a sh*t'. And worse, we are not going to tolerate you using your constitutional right to protest.

So when you give people no outlet. No way to raise the issue or awareness in good times, then this eruption happens in bad times.

And YES, policing and policing tactics are a big part of the problem.
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05-31-2020 , 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
Well so far these protests are really boring. They only amount to dinner conversation, really.
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05-31-2020 , 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
Well so far these protests are really boring. They only amount to dinner conversation, really.
The night is young. Where cops and national guard have showed up seems to have quelled the rioting. You seem disappointed that there isn’t more violence, mayhem, destruction, and looting. Amirite?
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05-31-2020 , 10:28 PM
ANTIFA is a terrorist group! Destroy them!

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05-31-2020 , 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by adios
The night is young. Where cops and national guard have showed up seems to have quelled the rioting. You seem disappointed that there isn’t more violence, mayhem, destruction, and looting. Amirite?
like I said, Americans love anarchy.
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05-31-2020 , 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
False.

It is not ONLY bad policing is a better statement. But policing is a problem as so many people have provided you data on.

But the bigger issue is the ignoring of the issues.

People now PRETEND they want peaceful protests when in FACT when things were not inflamed and it is the best time to have peaceful protests and address the issues while passions are not inflamed, those in power will not allow it.

If someone like Colin Kaepernic wants to protest peacefully and raise awareness of the issue that he thinks needs to be discussed those in power show him that they will try to ruin his career and crush him financially.

The FACT of the matter is the attitude is 'Shut up about this, we don't give a sh*t'. And worse, we are not going to tolerate you using your constitutional right to protest.

So when you give people no outlet. No way to raise the issue or awareness in good times, then this eruption happens in bad times.

And YES, policing and policing tactics are a big part of the problem.
The Vice President of the United States went to an NFL game for the express purpose of making a spectacle and belittle a thoughtful, silent protest on the murdering of blacks by police.

Why would anyone else feel they would be heard if the Vice President went to such extraordinary lengths to show people they do not matter, and their concerns do not matter.
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05-31-2020 , 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by joe6pack
I didn't see too many George Floyd signs when that drug store in Philadelphia was being looted in broad daylight.
could have been police. they have a history with looting drug stores under the cover of riots..
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05-31-2020 , 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
I side with the protests against police brutality, and I'm obviously anti-Trump, not as a Republican or Democrat but because he's an infantile, decrepit ruse of a man. But beyond that I am simply making objective observations. If all these people are going to do is sing and hold up signs and burn a store or two, they will be dispersed in time and nothing will change for them.
so, burn down entire cities and collect the spoils it is?

i got a better idea, lets just nuke the planet and be done with it

god hates us all anyway
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05-31-2020 , 10:44 PM
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What she is certain of is how aggressive Officer Derek Chauvin became when the club hosted events that drew a mainly black clientele, responding to fights by taking out his mace and spraying the crowd, a tactic she told him was unjustified “overkill.”

“He would mace everyone instead of apprehending the people who were fighting,” said Maya Santamaria, former owner of El Nuevo Rodeo club on East Lake Street in Minneapolis. “He would call backup. The next thing you would know, there would five or six squad cars.”
https://www.twincities.com/2020/05/2...ack-clientele/

I am sure she just misunderstood what she saw.
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05-31-2020 , 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
If you're going to have an insurrection, then have an insurrection. Don't just go out there and destroy private property for no damn reason. I don't care if they all go home or if they overthrow the government, just stop throwing a tantrum and expect anything to change just because you're mad.
actually im pretty sure God just hates America, the rest of the world is ok.
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05-31-2020 , 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
If you're going to have an insurrection, then have an insurrection. Don't just go out there and destroy private property for no damn reason. I don't care if they all go home or if they overthrow the government, just stop throwing a tantrum and expect anything to change just because you're mad.
I appreciate the 'go big or go home' sentiment. It makes sense. There however isn't going to be utopia at the end of the rainbow. Whatever happens will result in more control over the masses.
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05-31-2020 , 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by NittyOldMan1
actually im pretty sure God just hates America, the rest of the world is ok.
You'll be getting your comeuppance too.
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05-31-2020 , 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
You'll be getting your comeuppance too.
in ww3? yeah probably, like the rest of humanity
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05-31-2020 , 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by NittyOldMan1
like I said, Americans love anarchy.
It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything
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05-31-2020 , 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by NittyOldMan1
in ww3? yeah probably, like the rest of humanity
Something like that. Move to the Southern hemisphere.
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05-31-2020 , 11:12 PM
You do realize that the government has already effectively enforced a boycott that resulted in millions of broke people and a massive transfer of wealth. The looting has already happened.
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05-31-2020 , 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by THAY3R
You do realize that the government has already effectively enforced a boycott that resulted in millions of broke people and a massive transfer of wealth. The looting has already happened.
if you're a white collar worker, probably nothing happened. if you're a blue collar working or working a low income job, you got fked

then again the poor in the USA always get fked so nothing changed
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05-31-2020 , 11:15 PM
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05-31-2020 , 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
False.

It is not ONLY bad policing is a better statement. But policing is a problem as so many people have provided you data on.

But the bigger issue is the ignoring of the issues.

People now PRETEND they want peaceful protests when in FACT when things were not inflamed and it is the best time to have peaceful protests and address the issues while passions are not inflamed, those in power will not allow it.

If someone like Colin Kaepernic wants to protest peacefully and raise awareness of the issue that he thinks needs to be discussed those in power show him that they will try to ruin his career and crush him financially.

The FACT of the matter is the attitude is 'Shut up about this, we don't give a sh*t'. And worse, we are not going to tolerate you using your constitutional right to protest.

So when you give people no outlet. No way to raise the issue or awareness in good times, then this eruption happens in bad times.

And YES, policing and policing tactics are a big part of the problem.
Colin is probably crying all the way to the bank.
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05-31-2020 , 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I appreciate the 'go big or go home' sentiment. It makes sense. There however isn't going to be utopia at the end of the rainbow. Whatever happens will result in more control over the masses.
+1
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05-31-2020 , 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by NittyOldMan1
if you're a white collar worker, probably nothing happened. if you're a blue collar working or working a low income job, you got fked

then again the poor in the USA always get fked so nothing changed
Almost anyone can succeed in America, no matter what their race, religion or gender is.

1. Work hard.

2. Obey the law.

3. Don't listen to naysayers; surround yourself with positive people who can help you succeed.

4. There are no guarantees of success, and some groups of people have a tougher go of it than others.

5. The United States is still the greatest beacon of hope in the world for anyone willing to follow steps 1 through 3 above.

6. Proof of #5 is that a lot more people come to America than leave America.
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05-31-2020 , 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
Colin is probably crying all the way to the bank.
I hope he out gamed those trying to shut up his message and destroy him for trying to deliver it in peaceful protest.

If you say 'no peaceful protest will be tolerated and if you try we will destroy you' and then you wonder why you end up with violent protest, you are really uninformed and naive.
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05-31-2020 , 11:36 PM
Does anyone here believe that George Floyd would be pleased with the destruction and looting that his death as motivated some to do?

I suspect he would be deeply moved by the vast majority of protesters who are peacefully demonstrating. I'm sure MLK would be pleased with the non-violent protesters (which is like 99%+ of them).
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05-31-2020 , 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
Almost anyone can succeed in America, no matter what their race, religion or gender is.

1. Work hard.

2. Obey the law.

3. Don't listen to naysayers; surround yourself with positive people who can help you succeed.

4. There are no guarantees of success, and some groups of people have a tougher go of it than others.

5. The United States is still the greatest beacon of hope in the world for anyone willing to follow steps 1 through 3 above.

6. Proof of #5 is that a lot more people come to America than leave America.
Exclusions being:

- those wrongly targeted or killed by cops
- those wrong targeted of killed by men acting as vigilante enforcement
- those wrong accused of crimes by women in parks of committing crimes who end up wrongly with records or dead

And that list is not exclusive but the numbers still add up.
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