Trump to sign executive order on policing

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There's a simple test case, which is whether high speed car chases make sense.

The answer is they don't. It's less costly to society to let the guy get away than it is to engage in high speed car chases with all the risks that attach to them.

The same is true for use of guns by police. Where police are trained to minimize use of violence the social outcomes are better.

Compare Europe and US on crime and there is no comparison -Europe, which has plenty of minority groups and racial problems - has much lower crime rates and much lower rates of violence. Why? Prison terms are lower, police are trained in a more professional manner, etc.

Trevor Noah goes into full on race baiting mode.

Any more of these hangings show up the USA is going to explode. 5 in the last week. All ruled suicide.

I'm only hearing about 2...there's been 5?

Me too just on the news now

My mistake. 4 in the last week, the other was 2 weeks ago.

California trying to shed that liberal commie image.

There are ~50,000 suicides/year in the US. I don't know the exact number, but I am sure some non negligible amount of them involve hanging.

You (and a lot of other people) are being emotionally tricked by the media deciding to take advantage of your current emotional state by reporting on something that is always there, and pretending it is some novel thing. And even insinuating people are being lynched when there is no evidence, because they seem to really want a race war (or at the least, a lot of civil unrest, fighting, rioting, looting)

I'd be interested in seeing some of that data because I find it hard to believe.

It seems to me that it's exponentially more dangerous for a cop to fire multiple shots, while he's running, at a moving target, in a crowded parking lot than it would've been to let Brooks run away.

I also think it's far more likely that once he sobered up that Brooks would've:
a)turned himself in
b)had someone who knows him turn him in or
c)been found by the police almost immediately

instead of
d) decided to live life on the lam, willing to kill anyone who threatened his freedom.

I haven't followed this thread closely but I don't remember much discussion around innocent bystanders getting hit by a stray bullet. Maybe it didn't occur to you and now you're too married to your position to honestly reevaluate and GASP change your mind.

The shooting was horrible but understandable too.

The citizens near by were in their cars. He was no threat to any of them. WTF ?

As far as normal, the reaction to the shooting and the nation wide protests indicate more people think like the people here than you seem to know.

Are you sure it's not your little violent circle of friends that abnormal ?

This shows that even you don't believe your BS.

So you can't beat up, gas and run down the citizens you rely on for your food ?

Who woulda thunk it.

It was actually a blatant lie

But not a bad idea.
At least the cops are brainstorming.

I do not and have never condoned the ingestion of clorox.

Stepping back a bit, Officer Rolfe did not think "this guy might take a hostage", he did not think "he might evade his court date".

He thought "I am under attack, open fire".

It's that simple.


He didn't see the children downrange. Not because it was dark, but because all he saw was danger to himself, and he grabbed for his iron to protect himself.

This is why the jury will acquitt him, and this is also why he should not have lethal ordinance.

Ideally, this wouldn't be a Police encounter to begin with, but we don't have the institutional infrastructure in place yet to substitute for Police.

So in the meantime, with some very simple and accessible reforms, we should mitigate the risk of police lethality until we can obviate it.

You tell me there buddy. It's pretty clear from your posting who is being emotionally tricked here.

Violent people kill way more innocent people than cops with guns do. Drunk people kill way more innocent people than cops with guns do. A violent drunk guy, running from the police increases the danger to the public, because the violent drunk guy is unpredictable, and it's proven he's willing to commit violence to get away.

You're saying you don't believe a drunk violent guy is more likely to kill a bystander or cop, than a cop with a gun, trying to stop the violent drunk guy?

NYPD walked this back already, says investigations determined no intentional harm by employees. Tweets are still up though, from this and the PBA account.

PBA letter says number one priority is officer going home safely.

You know, like every hero's primary motivation.

It's odd because their job is stressful but no overly dangerous.

All this middle school drama makes them look weak.

Especially when everyone sees what they do to unarmed protesters given half a chance. Just ****ing shut up PBA. You're not helping.

How many times can you fire with a police taser?
I thought it's like a harpoon and you can only fire one bullet. At least that's what it's used to fire.

Or is a stun gun different? One and done?

I watched the Wendy's surveillance tape. And as soon as the guy was shooting with the tasor into the air!! The cop fired. They were both running, then the guy turns his hand around and fires into air like he didn't know what he is doing. Again he was fully loaded with 10x the limit.

Also what happened to the warning shot?