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06-16-2020 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
How about you all pick one or two people to make the same arguments over and over again, instead of the dozen or so that are just repeating each other? You belong to a toxic cult, bro. Isolating and ostracizing people is par for the course.
It was just a suggestion

Luckbox Inc effectively has a containment thread

corpus vile has a containment thread

You should have a containment thread imo

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Originally Posted by well named
Lets try to keep the thread vaguely on topic, please.
...Or you could excise the last few pages instead of letting itshotinvegas suck the life out of every other thread

It's just a suggestion

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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
It seems that most people are losing sight of the fact that even the vast majority of lethal cop shootings that are deemed clearly "justifiable" do not end in a fair, reasonable, or correct result. Almost none of them "deserved" to die. Rather they are the victim of the technical facts that we don't have Star Trek stun guns or cop marksmen who can be assured that they can use their shooting skills to stop without killing. The decision to shoot and to aim at center mass is not because their death is optimum EV (except possibly in the most extreme cases). Rather the fact is that even when the cop's decision is not debatable it is almost always because, much like the losing play of splitting 8's against a ten, other decisions are, EV wise, even worse.
It is my understanding that after Ferguson Obama's DOJ made recommendations to police departments, as did Black Lives Matter, and those departments that listened and implemented them had positive results

It really doesn't matter who understands what. Or what the quantifiable EV is. The bottom line is the status quo is unacceptable and will result in public outrage/riots until the public is satisfied. End of discussion
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06-16-2020 , 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by TeflonDawg
Or you could excise the last few pages instead of letting itshotinvegas suck the life out of every other thread

It's just a suggestion
I didn't have the time/energy for that option last night, and when I looked back it didn't seem straightforward either. But some option involving creating a new thread is certainly always on the table.
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06-16-2020 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer


Outnumbered man with gun walking away not getting jumped because he has gun is suddenly jumped from behind from would be lynch mob. Someone gets shot.
OMG SHOT IN COLD BLOOD
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06-16-2020 , 01:28 PM
"would be lynch mob" oh? Were they going to lynch him? Tell us more about that word!

"gets shot" excellent use of passive voice

A+ would LOL again. Sounds like Daddy's scared little boy overreacting hasn't been great for the cause, New Mexico is rushing to now tear down the statues that these LARPing militiamen were there to protect. Shame!
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06-16-2020 , 01:28 PM
wonder what he did to cause all those people to shout "oh my god" and "get his license plate"
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06-16-2020 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
"would be lynch mob" oh? Were they going to lynch him? Tell us more about that word!

"gets shot" excellent use of passive voice

A+ would LOL again. Sounds like Daddy's scared little boy overreacting hasn't been great for the cause, New Mexico is rushing to now tear down the statues that these LARPing militiamen were there to protect. Shame!
What's the point in risking your life jumping someone with a gun walking away if you don't plan on doing something horrific if you manage to get the better of him?
You aren't accusing lefties of being irrational, are you?
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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf
wonder what he did to cause all those people to shout "oh my god" and "get his license plate"
dunno but i'm sure it deserved a mob lynching
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06-16-2020 , 02:01 PM
lynching, getting tackled - what's the difference, right?
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06-16-2020 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf
lynching, getting tackled - what's the difference, right?
i'm sure they wanted to cuddle
anyway a woman was blocking him on purpose so he threw her on the ground (yes he was a bit out of order here) and then the scuffle started he pulled gun to stop scuffle and walked away they jumped him so i guess he should have just given them his gun
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06-16-2020 , 02:08 PM
Dumbass conservatives: these protests are stupid, I never understand why anyone's mad
Also dumbass conservatives: what's happening to white people today is like lynching basically
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06-16-2020 , 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
"would be lynch mob" oh? Were they going to lynch him? Tell us more about that word!

"gets shot" excellent use of passive voice

A+ would LOL again. Sounds like Daddy's scared little boy overreacting hasn't been great for the cause, New Mexico is rushing to now tear down the statues that these LARPing militiamen were there to protect. Shame!
It’s bad enough that you’re racist, but do you realize that you have the communicative style of a 15 year old “bully”? You’re a grown ass man but you have such a wormy style. All of your little snarky comments and exclamation points make you look pathetic.
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06-16-2020 , 02:18 PM
>only conservatives try this sort of thing
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06-16-2020 , 02:28 PM
How come they can arrest a bunch or armed thugs protecting a statue that no one asked them to protect without shooting one of them but a drunk guy gets the clip ?
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06-16-2020 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by RFlushDiamonds
How come they can arrest a bunch or armed thugs protecting a statue that no one asked them to protect without shooting one of them but a drunk guy gets the clip ?
Dunno, but im sure u can enlighten us?
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06-16-2020 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by micro dong
>only conservatives try this sort of thing
here is a better clip...this thing is getting spliced like no tomorrow by both sides:



There is your evidence of celebration, MrWookie.
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06-16-2020 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
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Shocker:



itslyinginvegas fell for right-wing propaganda, so crazy this could happen to someone so nonpartisan and balanced
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06-16-2020 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by neverbeclever
Dunno, but im sure u can enlighten us?

I've been reading a lot of posts by IHIV and he has this theory about escalation that I'd love to see him apply here.

But barring that, the culmination of my risk assessment is that it's safer to be a white guy with a gun than a black guy with a taser.
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06-16-2020 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
here is a better clip...this thing is getting spliced like no tomorrow by both sides:



There is your evidence of celebration, MrWookie.
The man with the sword escalated it and the skateboarders had to save the child.

I think.
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06-16-2020 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
There is your evidence of celebration, MrWookie.
This, uh, isn't CHOP at all. And it's not a celebration.
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06-16-2020 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
This, uh, isn't CHOP at all. And it's not a celebration.
The people in the video were celebrating at their attempted, if not outright, murder of another human being.
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06-16-2020 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
The people in the video were celebrating at their attempted, if not outright, murder of another human being.
Sure looked like self-defense to me. And I didn't see any celebration.
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06-16-2020 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RFlushDiamonds
The man with the sword escalated it and the skateboarders had to save the child.

I think.
From what I see, this guy was cornered, and being threatened, and I don't think that's disputable. If the guy with the weapon shoots, given just this video, it's a legit shoot.
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06-16-2020 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Sure looked like self-defense to me. And I didn't see any celebration.
This is repulsive.
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06-16-2020 , 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
This is repulsive.
Wait, so, a guy running away with a tazer is a threat to people and can be duly executed, but a guy angrily charging a crowd with a sword drawn is a victim?
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06-16-2020 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Wait, so, a guy running away with a tazer is a threat to people and can be duly executed, but a guy angrily charging a crowd with a sword drawn is a victim?
It's actually pathetic, even for you, to you think the guy with the weapon was the aggressor.
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06-16-2020 , 03:59 PM
A guy with a sword drawn and charging at people is not an aggressor?
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