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10-29-2023 , 06:32 PM
So u think Israel would listen the US if the US told Israel not intervene and defend themselves ?

U live in another world if u think people doing genocide listen to diplomacy ….

Ps: the weapon Israel use might come from the US but they were sold already years or months ago !
It Isn’t like the Ukraine ffs with US providing cash and weapon precisely to fight Russia.
Wtf u talking about ….
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10-29-2023 , 06:41 PM
i mean there are things you COULD do, but very few things we would do to convince israel to stop indiscriminately killing Palestinians.
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10-29-2023 , 06:48 PM
Oh yes victor isn’t semantic .
U think only DEMS in US support Israel Actions ???
Lol ….


Btw the US military ->

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/middleeast/l...-23/index.html

“ US military advisers are urging Israel to avoid an all-out ground assault, while the US House of Representatives passed a resolution in support of Israel. Meanwhile, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu appeared to tell soldiers Tuesday that a ground offensive was still on track.”

How is that biden not trying to tone down Israel ?

https://globalnews.ca/news/10056750/...tate-solution/

“ “It also means that when this crisis is over, there has to be a vision of what comes next, and in our view it has to be a two-state solution,” Biden said.”

“ The White House is cognizant that Biden’s calls for a two-state solution are ambitious and are perhaps not achievable in the near term, according to a White House official who was not authorized to publicly discuss internal deliberations and spoke on condition of anonymity. There is also a recognition that the Netanyahu government, facing public backlash for failing to prevent the Hamas attack, is focused on its operations against Hamas and is not giving much consideration to Biden’s talk of Palestinian statehood.”

The US do exactly what u demand diplomatically but it’s hard to use diplomacy vs far right almost fascist leader like bibi ….
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10-29-2023 , 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
i mean there are things you COULD do, but very few things we would do to convince israel to stop indiscriminately killing Palestinians.
Agree
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10-29-2023 , 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Oh yes victor isn’t semantic .
U think only DEMS in US support Israel Actions ???
Lol ….


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bruv. reread the exchange. I dont think that. I never said that. I never implied that. I havent mentioned the Repubs. you have. if you want to ask me what I think about Repubs funding Israel, I might answer you even tho I shouldnt given your display on this page.
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10-29-2023 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor

but, this is in the USA's interest so they will continue to trot a senile Biden and the rest of the ghouls to lie to the public so that clowns like you believe this it is somehow a good thing that a concentration camp with half children is being liquidated.
Please show anywhere where I support Israel or Hamas ?
The amount of garbage u spew is what makes communicating with you very hard .

My position is both side are guilty and they are both wrong like I specify in the Israel/Palestine thread many time .
I’m not like u just focusing on the wrong of one side just to spew garbage on the US ( like u do for Russia btw as well) .
That is the difference between u and me .

I’m not bias to fit my narrative like u .
I check both side and in this case , both did very bad stuff and I cheer for none of them .
U are on the side of terrorist , like u always are with dictator like Putin , Assad , Saddam etc .
Just to say US are the worst criminal on earth and u just did again here .
Shame to u !
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10-29-2023 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
bruv. reread the exchange. I dont think that. I never said that. I never implied that. I havent mentioned the Repubs. you have. if you want to ask me what I think about Repubs funding Israel, I might answer you even tho I shouldnt given your display on this page.
Well you’re lack of precision in this case and your posting history about calling dem doing genocide easily bring confusion on your entire position …
I can accept I wrongly interpret your position but jfc u don’t make it easy either .
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10-29-2023 , 11:00 PM
https://x.com/Anc_Aesthetics/status/...055941690?s=20

This seems like murder to me. I don't know a thing about hockey though. What do the hockey folks in the forum interpret this as?
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10-29-2023 , 11:49 PM
Looks intentional to me

would you have posted the video if both players were white?

Last edited by barney big nuts; 10-30-2023 at 12:04 AM.
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10-29-2023 , 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by barney big nuts
would you have posted the video if both players were white?
Hope this is a joke
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10-29-2023 , 11:59 PM
I have never seen you post anything sports related

Now all of a sudden you post a sports video of a black guy killing a white guy


would you have posted this if they were both white? can you link me to your interest in other sports or hockey?

You said you dont know a thing about hockey yet you posted a hockey video

doesnt add up

Last edited by barney big nuts; 10-30-2023 at 12:05 AM.
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10-30-2023 , 12:06 AM
Seems more likely to be a horrifying accident that may have been caused by recklessness but could also just be a freak accident. I wouldn't rule anything out without seeing a far more clear video (which I personally have no interest in viewing), but murder would be a pretty high bar to clear.

If you take a skate to someone's neck with that kind of force, you have to know that severe injury is the best case, and death is very possible. Just don't see a hockey player making such a decision out on the ice, and even though hockey players can get caught up in the moment and enraged at another player, to plan something like that on the spur of the moment would be pretty wild
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10-30-2023 , 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Seems more likely to be a horrifying accident that may have been caused by recklessness but could also just be a freak accident. I wouldn't rule anything out without seeing a far more clear video (which I personally have no interest in viewing), but murder would be a pretty high bar to clear.

If you take a skate to someone's neck with that kind of force, you have to know that severe injury is the best case, and death is very possible. Just don't see a hockey player making such a decision out on the ice, and even though hockey players can get caught up in the moment and enraged at another player, to plan something like that on the spur of the moment would be pretty wild
I would edit to negligent manslaughter
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10-30-2023 , 12:19 AM
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would you have posted this if they were both white?
yes or any other color. Race didn't even cross my mind
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10-30-2023 , 12:20 AM
Accident in “professional” Europe league .
The deceased player played couple games for Pittsburgh in his short nhl career .
1 in million freak accident .


Last edited by Montrealcorp; 10-30-2023 at 12:26 AM.
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10-30-2023 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by wreckem713
This seems like murder to me.
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Originally Posted by barney big nuts
Looks intentional to me
I'm not sure how anyone could think this was intentional based on that video. When you go in the air, your feet rise up. Happens all the time in hockey. Just not with a skate ending up in someones neck.
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10-30-2023 , 10:57 AM
WE have an NHL thread in Sports that is discussing this
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10-30-2023 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by barney big nuts
would you have posted the video if both players were white?
?? This seems clearly discussion-worthy to me without any consideration of race or interest in sports. When was the last time a player got killed during a professional sporting event?
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10-30-2023 , 05:26 PM
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?? This seems clearly discussion-worthy to me without any consideration of race or interest in sports. When was the last time a player got killed during a professional sporting event?
In fairness, I woke up this morning and this story was all over the place on X, and the racial element is definitely part of the story there. So it already is part of the story on social media, whether you think it should be or not.

I wouldn't be surprised if there were Russian/Chinese agitators/bots behind the whole racial aspect.

In hockey people intentionally block and run into each other all the time. Looks like the defender was a little out of control and trying to intentionally make contact to take the other player down with him, which is a little dirty but more or less a nothing burger, and the skate coming up like that really was a freak accident.

I dont know that much about hockey, but you see stuff like that in soccer/basketball all the time, where a player on one team is losing balance and going down, and intentionally takes someone down with them, and it is a yellow card/Flagrant 1 at worst, and everyone just moves on.
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10-30-2023 , 05:29 PM
UK police are investigating the incident, but haven’t said anything more than that.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-67261168
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10-30-2023 , 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunyain
this story was all over the place on X, and the racial element is definitely part of the story there.
Well color me shocked.
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10-30-2023 , 07:23 PM
Well , we all know how X (Twitter) speaks the truth right ….
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10-30-2023 , 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ganstaman
?? This seems clearly discussion-worthy to me without any consideration of race or interest in sports. When was the last time a player got killed during a professional sporting event?
When was the last time someone got killed by a karate kick?
idk probably never. not on ice, not on live tv, the internet says it was intentional.
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10-31-2023 , 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by washoe
the internet says it was intentional.
No, it doesn't.

Not that we should use the court of public opinion to decide anything.
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10-31-2023 , 09:37 AM
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Economic growth so strong, Republicans are literally speechless

as job growth has soared in the United States and the
unemployment rate has dropped to levels unseen in more than 50 years

if they were to comment on the good news, more Americans might hear about it

Results oriented...

if people, or extreme leftist, think the labor market is strong because of Democrat economic policy, those folks don't know how finance and economics work.
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