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03-31-2021 , 10:07 AM

#3626

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Originally Posted by Cuepee

I'm going to move this discussion here as I would be interested in seeing others view of how I am assessing this.

I suspect there may be a range from those who just scream 'anti vaxxer' or 'science denier' at anything that is not a 'just take it without personal considerations' approach to some who may agree with me or at least say they 'understand my position but would go another way.

Anyway here is the post I replied to and my reply.

AS I am the one being referenced here it is in regard to the Astro Zeneca vaccine which is not approved in the USA but is approved in Canada
Originally they suggested folks over 65 do not take it by some countries.
Than some countries suspended its use due to blood clots occurring 10-14 days after. A very very small amount
Now they are saying folks under 55 should not take it but over 55 is OK as you have a bigger risk of dying from Covid over Blood Clots

Also I get a flu vaccine(govt micrchip) every year

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03-31-2021 , 10:27 AM

#3627

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Does my post resonate at all with you in a way that makes you add those considerations?

No wrong answer. i am just curious?

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03-31-2021 , 11:24 AM

#3628

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Originally Posted by Cuepee

Does my post resonate at all with you in a way that makes you add those considerations?

No wrong answer. i am just curious?

No not at all . Though since the vaccine is not approved in the USA just wanted some clarity as well. Do not want to be a Qanon Conspiracy Nut

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03-31-2021 , 05:03 PM

#3629

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It’s too bad we don’t have a dedicated religion forum for these daily derails.

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04-01-2021 , 10:44 AM

#3630

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There is a restaurant in Huntington Beach where patrons are forbidden from wearing a mask, according to an aquaintence of mine who went there recently.

I assume y'all agree that the saw cuts both ways.

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04-01-2021 , 08:30 PM

#3631

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Originally Posted by lagtight

Right. I wouldn't patronize them. I wouldn't demand that I be allowed to wear a mask there

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04-01-2021 , 08:34 PM

#3632

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04-02-2021 , 09:22 AM

#3633

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Looks like we solved the flu:

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04-02-2021 , 09:24 AM

#3634

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That's just because lockdowns work. And like...what are you trying to suggest? Also, a lot of people who would have been diagnosed with the flu just decided to stay home.
So those numbers don't show what I think you think they show.

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04-02-2021 , 10:20 AM

#3635

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

I don't think they show anything other than the fact that the flu has been under reported.

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04-02-2021 , 10:44 AM

#3636

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Originally Posted by lagtight

Not equally both ways. Its like smoking where we once though there could be smoking pubs and it 'cut both ways'. It can't because there's a duty of care towards the staff.

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04-02-2021 , 10:44 AM

#3637

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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas

I don't think they show anything other than the fact that the flu has been under reported.

So this year 49,950 of 50,000 flu cases were not reported? OK.

All the best.

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04-02-2021 , 11:24 AM

#3638

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Originally Posted by Monteroy

So this year 49,950 of 50,000 flu cases were not reported? OK.

All the best.

Deleted: I'm not sure what specimens refers to in that chart.

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04-02-2021 , 12:33 PM

#3639

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Yeah, there has to be some other explanation other than reality because reality can never be reality to some, as that is the stuff sheeple believe in.

All the best.

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04-02-2021 , 12:35 PM

#3640

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Originally Posted by Monteroy

Yeah, there has to be some other explanation other than reality because reality can never be reality to some, as that is the stuff sheeple believe in.

All the best.

Umm...what is the reality here?
Just that those are just the numbers and that's how it is?

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04-02-2021 , 12:41 PM

#3641

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

Umm...what is the reality here?

Reality. You know, the thing people like you always assume is a front for something else.

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Just that those are just the numbers and that's how it is?

Yup. Sometimes reality is kind of simple, like flu being down a lot because people interacted a lot less and wore masks a lot more. However, you are welcome to come up with some intricate explanations as to all the dark forces that are secretly at work for their whatever agenda. After that, get to the TV theme song work you still need to do. Stop being so lazy.

All the best.

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04-02-2021 , 01:02 PM

#3642

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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas

Looks like we solved the flu:

Of course.

In the BFI thread this is odten pointed to as proof gov't is burying FLu deaths in Covid to inflate the numbers.

That is a infantile and dumb view.

Any thing that results in quarantine, selective lockdowns, whether it be another sickness or a volcano eruption will greatly impact flu numbers of contact illnesses such as the flu. Less contact equals less spread.

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04-04-2021 , 02:15 PM

#3643

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Concerning if there is continued data to support this early data. Something to watch for sure.

Let's hope this is just a temporary data point that seems important but proves not to be when further data comes in.

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04-04-2021 , 08:55 PM

#3644

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Originally Posted by Cuepee

Concerning if there is continued data to support this early data. Something to watch for sure.

Let's hope this is just a temporary data point that seems important but proves not to be when further data comes in.

But honestly we've been hearing this narrative for like 9 months now.
OMG, we're on the verge of collapse. It's all over by next week!!!

I'm not saying to not take precautions but this type of **** gets old.

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04-04-2021 , 10:47 PM

#3645

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Met my new neighbors tonight who recently moved in next door. They said they aren't getting the vaccine because it's all a hoax. So that's nice.

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04-04-2021 , 11:41 PM

#3646

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Originally Posted by campfirewest

Met my new neighbors tonight who recently moved in next door. They said they aren't getting the vaccine because it's all a hoax. So that's nice.

Can you give cliffs on that convo

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04-04-2021 , 11:48 PM

#3647

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Originally Posted by campfirewest

Met my new neighbors tonight who recently moved in next door. They said they aren't getting the vaccine because it's all a hoax. So that's nice.

These people are the best
I can totally understand if someone thinks it's completely overblown, only kills olds, whatever. I don't like talking to them but at least they are still connected to reality a bit.
The ones that think it's 100% fake and doesn't exist and it's literally just the seasonal flu, global conspiracy and fake news are just mind boggling.

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04-05-2021 , 12:09 AM

#3648

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Originally Posted by 5 south

But it has been true. Hospitals in the UK for example coped by virtue of lots of people dying at/in home and procedures being postponed. This is generally how it's handled, when hospitals can't cope - the standards for being admited/treated get implicetly raised.

I'm not quite sure what people expect to see. Maybe it's just the word 'collapse' that is the problem - do people expect the building to fall down?

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04-05-2021 , 01:08 AM

#3649

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Originally Posted by chezlaw

I guess my point of reference is northern Italy.
Also probably just misinformed but I think of Nightingale in London, that boat and conference center in NYC that weren't used, people saying North Dakota, Florida, Texas were all doomed, etc...

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04-05-2021 , 01:26 AM

#3650

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Originally Posted by 5 south

Nightingle wasn't used but that in part illustrates the strain because they probably should have been but where the resources going to come from? The problem with doomed is - how many people have to die to meet that measure?

The reality of the excess deaths, people dying at/in home and treatment not being available has been horrendous (and it aint over yet) - unthinkably so before the pandemic realities hit.