I don't think any sentient adult needed knowledge of what was going on not to be deeply suspicious about Savile.

Even a comedian I saw a few times in the 80s was making Savile jokes that the whole audience was in on, though obviously not believer chezlaw:

https://hmsfriday.com/2012/10/12/jer...-back-in-1988/

Louis T did a very interesting documentary on Savile. Twice

Worth a watch

SNP MP's and MSP's are all deleting tweets where they've previously mentioned Derek MacKay. Looks like the rewriting of history has commenced. All traces of Salmond have been removed from the SNP site so this is nothing new.

Lots of people knew or had heard very credible rumours.

I posted the not the nine o'clock news pilot a while ago which was breathtaking.

Watch the ntnon pilot. That was in the 70s.

I didn't guess any of that. I just knew Savile was a weird person I didn't quite like. I knew his Spitting Image puppet was always required to read out letters addressed, 'Dear Jim -- you sad man,' and I wondered what Hislop and the other scriptwriters meant by it, and I was distinctly bothered by his claim on Desert Island Discs that when his mother, 'The Duchess,' died, he spent three days alone with the dead body before calling anyone in. Plus the strange things he told Louis Theroux about hating children and not caring what anyone said once he was dead.

Even so, once he really was dead, I was surprised to discover the extent of his crimes, and the fact that, for instance, the captain of the SS Canberra had him thrown off the ship at the next port after an incident involving a child but made no official complaint against him, and that staff at Stoke Mandeville knew all about his abuse of patients and didn't say anything because kids don't count or something (a bit like police and local authorities in relation to grooming gangs in northern England).

I would put in a word for the writer Dan Davies, who was hired to write Savile's biography and given the usual treatment (bogus bodyguards frisking him when he turned up, just to intimidate him). Davies eventually called the posthumous book In Plain Sight. But originally, when Savile was alive, he hoped to publish it as a massive expose with the title Apocalypse Now Then. I like that. It's good.

https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/v...-biography-121

God, what a couple of absolute immitigable tossers.

Not sure who's advising RLB but she's all over the place at the moment.

Corbyn's CLP has nominated Starmer.

Laugh? I nearly shat.

In the late Nineties activists in Islington North CLP wanted to deselect Corbyn because of his continual disloyalty to the party and Tony Blair (mistakenly in my view) told them the leadership wouldn't support that.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a7855096.html

In other news, Dr Rosena Allin-Khan has just received enough CLP nominations to proceed to the ballot for deputy leader. Which is nice.

Looks like the dirty tricks have started to try to undermine Starmer

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51432440

Jeez. This threads a hoot. Tories so despicable no one dare mention them lest they be reminded of their vote. Labour so bad all you guys can do is talk about how bad they are. And terribly racist. The tories are racist too, although people don’t mind as much.

I might be wrong but they are no Tories in this thread with the exception of Lektor and maybe diebitter. Everyone else seems either centrist or left leaning to me.

PGUK, Elrazor and diebietter are also Tories and judging from the higher standards demanded from Labour I'd guess some of the others voted Tory too, so yes you are wrong.

I self-identify as a centrist/Liberal. Voting Tory in the last election was a somewhat trivial decision considering how much closer to the centre ground they are.

Wrt to racism, clearly there are racist people in the Tory party. The difference with Labour is you don't get anyone defending Tory racism itt the way people defend Labour's problem with racism or handwave it as a conspiracy theory.

One for SiMor here - diebitter will be ragin' given his hatred of unelected blah blah

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...-feud-21465832

I forgot about Elrazor.

I was unsure about diebitter, I'd have him as right wing Tory or Brexit Party.

I find PGUK hard to place. I'd say more right wing Lib Dem than Tory.

There's a better forum for those who want to to all the hating on everything and everybody.

Probably going to be a bit quiet here until we have a new labour leader and/or brexit decisions start to get made.

hilarity and hypocrisy aside, I actually agree with her. There was a point in time where I didnt think BJ could be any more ridiculous, but DC has done his best to undermine that view. To top it all off he's just such a typical brexiter - angry bald headed gammon shouting at clouds.

Now brexit is on the road to getting done and has passed the point of no return and cannot be impeded by the anti-democrats, and we're on the path to restoring national sovereignty, I would call myself a green. There's nothing more important than slowing, and hopefully reversing, climate change, and I hope the UK leads the way in this.

��

Ok boomer

I see beej is using some of that sweet sweet nhs money to build himself an oversized train set and a few buses to play with.