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02-16-2020 , 01:50 PM

#1426

SiMor29

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Of course, I mean all's good right. Right?

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02-16-2020 , 01:54 PM

#1427

PartyGirlUK

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Johnson appointed a pro-eugenics aide.

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02-16-2020 , 02:58 PM

#1428

SiMor29

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Originally Posted by PartyGirlUK

Johnson appointed a pro-eugenics aide.

That does not sound very jewish?

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02-16-2020 , 03:07 PM

#1429

Hoopie1

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Originally Posted by SiMor29

That does not sound very jewish?

I'm concerned that the Overton Window hasn't really moved left at all.

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02-16-2020 , 03:09 PM

#1430

PartyGirlUK

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Originally Posted by SiMor29

That does not sound very jewish?

I'm honestly not sure you mean - care to elaborate?

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02-17-2020 , 05:34 AM

#1431

Hoopie1

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Oh...

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02-17-2020 , 08:21 AM

#1432

Husker

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Oh...

This is an obvious example of the very thing I was posting about earlier.

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02-17-2020 , 08:22 AM

#1433

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This is an obvious example of the very thing I was posting about earlier.

Exactly

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02-18-2020 , 04:54 AM

#1434

Hoopie1

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Following on from this, Dawn Butler thinks that "a child is born without sex".

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02-18-2020 , 09:04 AM

#1435

Husker

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Following on from this, Dawn Butler thinks that "a child is born without sex".

I’m sure that’ll help win back the Labour Red Wall.

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02-18-2020 , 09:39 AM

#1436

Hoopie1

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With that and the ongoing obsession with the Palestine/Israel they are certs for a landslide in 2024.

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02-18-2020 , 01:28 PM

#1437

diebitter

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Jesus Christ, is MI5 poisoning Labour offices with stupid juice?

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02-19-2020 , 04:16 PM

#1438

57 On Red

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Originally Posted by Hoopie1

Following on from this, Dawn Butler thinks that "a child is born without sex".

To be fair to Dawn, she immediately corrected it to "formed without sex". Unfortunately, that was just as stupid and wrong, since sex is determined instantaneously and irreversibly at the moment of conception, male or female, and this is true of every human being who has ever lived.

As far as I know, Dawn, now 50, has never had children, which is probably, on the whole and taking the one thing with the other, just as well.

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02-19-2020 , 04:36 PM

#1439

Elrazor

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Originally Posted by 57 On Red

since sex is determined instantaneously and irreversibly at the moment of conception, male or female, and this is true of every human being who has ever lived.

You are miles out here.

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02-19-2020 , 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 57 On Red

To be fair to Dawn, she immediately corrected it to "formed without sex". Unfortunately, that was just as stupid and wrong, since sex is determined instantaneously and irreversibly at the moment of conception, male or female, and this is true of every human being who has ever lived.

As far as I know, Dawn, now 50, has never had children, which is probably, on the whole and taking the one thing with the other, just as well.

Even by the incredibly low standards of scientific arguments I have come to expect in the debate around sex and gender identity this is ridiculous. Completely ignoring any social aspects of the issue there are a large number of people born intersex - between 0.1% and 0.001% of births depending on how strictly you define it. That is at least tens of thousands of people in the world right now who are not, and have never been, obviously male or female.

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02-20-2020 , 04:36 AM

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I see the Conservative Party now seem to think that unemployment is at 8 million in this country.

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02-20-2020 , 02:35 PM

#1442

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02-20-2020 , 02:49 PM

#1443

chezlaw

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It's great to see some standing up against the extradition to the USA. Also

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Separately, the Council of Europe commissioner for human rights. Dunja Mijatović, said Assange should not be extradited because of the potential impact on press freedom and concerns about “the real risk of torture or inhuman or degrading treatment”, in contravention of the European convention on human rights.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...john-mcdonnell

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02-20-2020 , 02:59 PM

#1444

Kelhus999

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It’s arbitrary anyways because biology doesn’t really care about man made definitions and categories. But by definition sexually reproducing species are divided into 2 sexes, male and female. And if you don’t fit into either of these categories you are intersex. If you want to argue intersex should be incorporated by definition as a sex, that is fine. But it currently isn’t in any dictionary or biology textbook I have ever read.

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02-20-2020 , 04:33 PM

#1445

Willd

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This seems entirely tangential to my post, the point of which was to point out that the statement "sex is determined instantaneously and irreversibly at the moment of conception, male or female, and this is true of every human being who has ever lived." is complete nonsense. Since you acknowledge that people can be intersex I'm not sure what your point is.

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02-20-2020 , 05:55 PM

#1446

Kelhus999

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Originally Posted by Willd

My point is tangential, so fair enough. I will say, when it comes to biological rules, if your threshold for whether that rule is valid or not is as low as 0.1-0.01% of the time, you might as well throw your biology textbook in the trash; because pretty much nothing you will read in the entire book will reach that threshold.

Biology is a good framework to understand how biological systems operate. But it isn't that precise. In fact, making a statement and having it be true 99.9% of the time is actually pretty damn good. I am not sure anything is that precise outside of pure mathematics.

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02-21-2020 , 03:40 AM

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Elrazor

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0.1% might be relevant for sexual differences identified at birth, but the figure is more likely 1% or higher when you factor in differences that develop during the lifespan, most commonly during adolescence.

Either way, neither number is insignificant when discussing sexual development. Dwarfism is far more rare than differences in sexual development, and I'm pretty sure most people can more readily identify whether someone is a dwarf or not more accurately than they can identify a person's sex.

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02-23-2020 , 10:14 AM

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Johanna Cherry is putting herself up for nominations to stand as an MSP in Edinburgh Central. Pretty ridiculous as she's already an MP and is claiming she can do both jobs.

The reason for this though, in addition to greed, is that she is positioning herself to go for the party leadership, as is her rival for the candidacy Angus Robertson.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-51601035

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02-23-2020 , 04:03 PM

#1449

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I see she is now saying she will step down as a MP if she was elected. Hopefully she gets the nomination and wins the seat as she'll be a disaster if she manages to win the leadership of the SNP at some point. Completely charmless and very divisive, even within her own party.