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12-11-2019 , 12:30 PM

#501

JodoKast

old hand

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,547

Smart money but dumb voters? jkjk

All leaders keeping their jobs until 01/21/21 was mistake (Micron, Trump, Boris,) but might actually be possible. lols

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12-12-2019 , 01:29 AM

#502

Joe Pulaski

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8,346

c'mon, lets go labour let's have a shock. get us primed for bernie.

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12-12-2019 , 02:07 AM

#503

diebitter

Grotesquely Handsome

Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 65,743

Seems the most appropriate song for today....

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12-12-2019 , 02:58 AM

#504

chezlaw

Limey Bastard

Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 47,032

The die is cast, best of luck to all.

Never felt like I do today about an election and although I'm 90% very gloomy, I just have that tingling sensation that says it may be something special.

Music can help us get through till that 10pm moment. If it all goes wrong then:

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12-12-2019 , 03:05 AM

#505

Elrazor

losing momentum

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 13,856

In a hung parliament where coalition parties demand the removal of Corbyn as a prerequisite for any deal, what do Labour and Corbyn do?

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12-12-2019 , 03:22 AM

#506

chezlaw

Limey Bastard

Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 47,032

Pretty sure they wont do a deal like that and that labour will seek to form a minority government (given the chance) and then leave it to lib dems and others to do what they will on a vote by vote basis. Maybe just maybe if that minority government loses a vote of confidence from the off then something else might happen but it's very unlikely.

Also more like JS will go and the lib dems will let most of the labour program through then she gets to depose JC or force another GE

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12-12-2019 , 03:37 AM

#507

diebitter

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Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 65,743

lol no way Corbyn goes if he got enough votes to scrape a minority gov

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12-12-2019 , 03:38 AM

#508

diebitter

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Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 65,743

Sounds like remainers trying to game democracy all over again though, doesn't it?

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12-12-2019 , 03:40 AM

#509

chezlaw

Limey Bastard

Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 47,032

Not in any way that I can see.

This is the very stuff of democracy isn't it?

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12-12-2019 , 04:00 AM

#510

diebitter

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Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 65,743

Trying to stop the most voted for option by any means necessary, including breaking long-standing social contracts of accepting you lost and giving the winner leeway to enact their manifesto without trying to block EVERY.SINGLE.THING? Sure, that's exactly the spirit of democracy.

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12-12-2019 , 04:09 AM

#511

chezlaw

Limey Bastard

Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 47,032

They'll vote against the things they disagree with and for the things they agree with.

I'm really not sure what the democratic issue is for you (aside from not just implementating the ref result)

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12-12-2019 , 04:11 AM

#512

gotgot123

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Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 2,537

Just going round in circles with him. He never listens. He ignores an insane amount of things which contradicts his view.

Anyway, whats the best time to start following bbc coverage tonight?

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12-12-2019 , 04:13 AM

#513

sixfour

should be called sevenfour

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 74,858

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Originally Posted by diebitter

Seems the most appropriate song for today....

Surely

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12-12-2019 , 04:26 AM

#514

diebitter

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Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 65,743

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Originally Posted by gotgot123

Anyway, whats the best time to start following bbc coverage tonight?

10pm. Stay with it till 11:30 ish, then there's a lull till about 2 usually

I usually hop to ITV or channel 4 after 11:30 just to see what nonsense they're trying to push as serious coverage.

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12-12-2019 , 05:06 AM

#515

chezlaw

Limey Bastard

Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 47,032

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Originally Posted by gotgot123

Just going round in circles with him. He never listens. He ignores an insane amount of things which contradicts his view.

Anyway, whats the best time to start following bbc coverage tonight?

10pm sharp for the exit poll.

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12-12-2019 , 05:28 AM

#516

Elrazor

losing momentum

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 13,856

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Originally Posted by chezlaw

That's the problem though. The Lib Dems have nothing to lose by triggering another election considering how badly this campaign has gone for them. It will be chaos for however long the minority government can hold it together, which should move the needle enough for Johnson v Corbyn 2 to deliver a working Tory majority.

However, it changes the game significantly if Labour put Kier Starmer in charge.

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12-12-2019 , 06:18 AM

#517

chezlaw

Limey Bastard

Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 47,032

They have a lot to lose, they can expect a very unforgiving electorate who wont want another GE and will see them throw away the certainty of a 2nd ref without there being a clear policy that requires bringing down the government. If the tories then win and we brexit it will be along time before they recover. Far far less likely is labour ditching JC for KS - takes a long time (in this context) apart from everything else

But maybe we will find out.

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12-12-2019 , 06:59 AM

#518

sixfour

should be called sevenfour

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 74,858

Still getting lefties bleating on social media, not being able to find a single positive policy of their own to talk about (across all party options) and instead just as homineming the right, sad bastards

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12-12-2019 , 07:08 AM

#519

Hoopie1

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Originally Posted by sixfour

I mean, they are terrible but they have done better than GET BREXIT DONE.

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12-12-2019 , 07:15 AM

#520

gotgot123

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Originally Posted by sixfour

lawl.

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Originally Posted by sixfour

Still getting righties bleating on social media, not being able to find a single positive policy of their own to talk about (across all party options) and instead just saying corbyn is a commie, sad bastards

fxd.

Social media WOAT.

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12-12-2019 , 08:34 AM

#521

diebitter

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Just voted. This sums it up tho

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12-12-2019 , 09:24 AM

#522

tomdemaine

Just tries harder

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,065

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Originally Posted by sixfour

The algorithm delivers you the things you're more likely to engage with. Have you considered that you're just a miserable bastsrd? I'm seeing lots of positive stuff (and a fair few funny takedowns of just how comically evil this government is.)

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12-12-2019 , 11:03 AM

#523

abysmal01

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 1,678

Lol at DB still banging on about DEMOCRACY like his spiel didn't lose all credibility when he condoned BJ illegally closing down parliament because actual democratic process was inconvenient for him.

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12-12-2019 , 12:03 PM

#524

LektorAJ

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Originally Posted by abysmal01

Lol at DB still banging on about DEMOCRACY like his spiel didn't lose all credibility when he condoned BJ illegally closing down parliament because actual democratic process was inconvenient for him.

He didn't succeed because MPs swore under oath that they needed parliament to be open to do important things - so parliament was reopened, and the MPs ....