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07-01-2020 , 08:51 AM


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07-01-2020 , 10:05 AM
Jackson Carlaw is doing more for Scottish independence than anyone 😂
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07-01-2020 , 10:25 AM
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07-01-2020 , 01:19 PM
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07-08-2020 , 07:14 AM
Johnson is terrible.
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07-08-2020 , 06:23 PM
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How ironic that the SNP government always seem to have experts who seem to align with their political views. There's probably a good reason why they chose not to go for such a renowned expert as Sir Hugh Pennington.

There's also been criticism as to the basis of the decisions that are being made so I wouldn't be certain that it's all based on the science. As I said earlier, Sturgeon has been inconsistent in her statements lately. Also, there's this:

Scientists have 'no idea' where the evidence for some Scottish Government lockdown decisions is coming from.

Linda Bauld, Professor of Public Health at Edinburgh University, praised Nicola Sturgeon's handling of information during the coronavirus pandemic but said the basis for some decisions had been unclear.

The academic was speaking to MPs at the Scottish Affairs Committee in Westminster this afternoon where she said that the First Minister was "far better" at communicating and being "able to say where a decision has come from" than the UK Government had been.

However she added: "I think some of their more recent decisions about the pace are really unclear to me. For example, we heard today that the hospitality venues that can operate outdoors are not going to be able to do that in the near future in Scotland, which I think is going to cause a lot of problems for that sector.

“Some of the other decisions around releasing of lockdown, and also the point that [was made] about some of the inconsistencies in the details and the advice, I have no idea where these are coming from.

“And to be perfectly frank, when I've spoken to some of my colleagues who sit on the advisory group, it's not obvious where they're coming from. So not everything has been transparent, at all.”


Professor Bauld was joined by Akash Paun, Senior Fellow at the Institute for Government, Professor Nicola McEwen, Co-Director at the Centre of Constitutional Change and Professor David Bell a Professor of Economics at the University of Stirling During the session.
This is the problem with the tory rhetoric... they blame Sturgeon for not opening up sooner whilst at the same time questioning why she is opening up so soon. She has been more consistent and has garnered more praise than any other UK leader with her approach. Do you really think she's handled this badly?
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07-08-2020 , 06:28 PM
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Sturgeon is the one who abandoned it because of the ciriticism she was taking from her support over the fact she was following the rest of the UK. She only switched to delaying things, giving us the longest lockdown in Europe as far as I'm aware, for political reasons. You just need to look at the huge contradictions on some of her statements recently.

And after the criticism of Boris "Stay Alert" message we have the Scottish Government's which is "Stay Safe". Hmmm
"political reasons" ffs - we have an average of like 6 deaths a week. She has refused to politicise her briefings on numerous occasions and she's said as much. You're still talking about care homes which seem to have been a blind side for the entire global community... she has remained stoic whilst Boris is blaming them for apparently not following the rules. Jesus man how can you with a straight face still endorse this ****. Unreal.
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07-15-2020 , 03:53 AM
Christ almighty, Hancock was so bad on Today, all you needed to do was to suggest a date when these mask laws would be reviewed, when whoever was interviewing him suggested "so we could be wearing masks next summer", don't say "foreseeable future" and "let's see how we're going with a vaccine". How hard is it to suggest a timeframe?
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07-15-2020 , 01:10 PM
Labour will settle out of court with BBC reporter John Ware and the Panorama whistleblowers defamed by Seumas Milne and his henches.



Labour effectively admits that the claims made in the BAFTA-nominated programme 'Is Labour Antisemitic?' were true and that Milne's counter-claims were false and defamatory.

Labour will also apologise to Ware and the whistleblowers.



Of course, Labour is now led by a QC with a grasp of the law, which helps.

This could lead to a lot of further lawsuits, especially after the EHRC report lands in the week commencing 3 August. Some people think Labour could go bankrupt, but I don't think a political party can legally go bankrupt. The cost could be severe, though.
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07-15-2020 , 01:14 PM
Oh. You know that thing about Johnson nominating Failing Grayling of all people to head the Intelligence and Security Committee? Turns out the committee aren't having it and they've elected Dr Julian Lewis instead.

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07-15-2020 , 02:57 PM
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07-15-2020 , 03:33 PM
In reprisal, Johnson and Cummings have removed the Tory whip from Dr Lewis. Silly buggers. The executive simply does not have the powers over the legislature that they think it does. And it only takes 40 Tory MPs, many of them deeply unhappy with the Johnson-Cummings circus, to destroy their majority.

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07-15-2020 , 03:48 PM
Johnson clearly think he's still in some kind of honeymoon period, and while he may well not be under threat right now, it's not because he wields nearly as much power as he thinks.

The 1922 will bide their time, wait three years for the shitstorm over Brexit and Covid to pass, and he'll be replaced by Sunak.
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07-15-2020 , 04:50 PM


lol, he really did just lose a rigged election!
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07-15-2020 , 07:09 PM
Lol proposing Grayling to head up anything ever
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07-16-2020 , 03:31 AM
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Lol proposing Grayling to head up anything ever
They want to suppress the Russia report. So needed a hard core Leavetard. This is what happens when you single issue your party.

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07-16-2020 , 07:04 AM
I doubt it's to do with the Russian report which has already been cleared, would be released anyway and isn't going to be anywhere near as exciting as some hope for.

This is about far more important and sensitive issues that are coming up, control freakery and general incompetence.

Also, Lewis will likely regain the whip relatively quickly.
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07-16-2020 , 08:01 AM
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I doubt it's to do with the Russian report which has already been cleared, would be released anyway and isn't going to be anywhere near as exciting as some hope for.

This is about far more important and sensitive issues that are coming up, control freakery and general incompetence.

Also, Lewis will likely regain the whip relatively quickly.
Look like its being released today, and yes its all about this report.
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07-16-2020 , 08:03 AM
Good summary here.

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07-16-2020 , 08:09 AM
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They want to suppress the Russia report. So needed a hard core Leavetard. This is what happens when you single issue your party.
Lewis is also a hardcore leavetard FWIW.
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07-16-2020 , 08:14 AM
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Lewis is also a hardcore leavetard FWIW.
Ok, but he does not put that cause above all things,so does not mind if a report makes the government e.g. Boris look bad. If releasing it is in the broader greater good.

So he is not part of the entwining of the fortunes of Boris with the fortunes of Brexit. Or even is prepared to make Brexit look bad itself, e.g. The russians agitated for it.
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07-16-2020 , 08:21 AM
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Look like its being released today, and yes its all about this report.
I'n sure you will insist it is but in reality it's cheap easy, news fodder about a report that Dominic Grieve has said wasn't a huge deal and speculated "I can only imagine Dominic Cummings – in a fit of pique about my stance on Brexit – is behind it, but it makes no sense, as there were Leavers and Remainers on the committee when I was chairing it"

I'm sure there will be enough sensational revelations for you to lol chezlaw as you miss the far bigger picture about intelligence and security in boris's post brexit britain
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07-16-2020 , 08:31 AM
Grieve says it contains things that will be bad for the government and its obvious that its release is being frustrated.

That its release is being frustrated, or has been, is obvious to everyone.

There is not point debating your contrarian take, at odds with all commentary on this issue, because you have made a position, and rather than ever admit the simple obvious wrongness of that position, you will plumb the lowest depths of ridiculous hand wavery and intellectual dishonesty to avoid doing such, such behaviour defines you as a poster.
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07-16-2020 , 08:36 AM
It will have some embarrassing stuff in it that will last a few days or weeks with no lasting impact.

Depressingly you will never learn that politics is a far more serious business than a bit of short term embarrassment. Really serious issues and politics is going on while you do it.
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