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01-15-2016 , 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by thebeav55
Is there anyone on the Bovada site using 'XP' or 'Vista' and getting the game sounds ?
Thank you !
From what I can gather, and I have been scouring this thread relentlessly (perhaps another thread may hold some important info), I haven't heard anyone stating that they operated on XP or Vista and could hear the sounds. I'm also having this weird client freeze that happens every so often randomly for a few seconds.

Anyone that finds a fix gets mad love on 2p2.
01-15-2016 , 11:48 AM
I just got a promo in my email from Bovada for

"Mad Monday" ... Now with Extra Mad!
01-15-2016 , 12:18 PM
I am just becoming aware of this because I like playing on bovada and had like 1500 there; I had just taken two weeks off and decided to play a couple of days ago. Hated the new update; much less fun to play there.

I then read this thread and was reminded about all their anti-player tactics i.e. tiny points, no RB no synchro breaks, etc..and I say to myself; cmon why do I need this? I immediately click out 2/3 of my money . I will play there again when they get more pro-player or at least fix the bugs. I actually like playing at Juicy Stakes now!
01-15-2016 , 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jamesk777
It's not nonsense. There are clearly many evidences that bovada/bodog doesnt want more regs in. How about the 4 table cap? anonymous table? no rakeback? no rewards (those poker points are like nothing)? Are these changes hurting the recs or regs? How can some people not see this?

Jonas Odman, VP of bodog stated this in an article
"....As Odman noticed what he saw as a major flaw in the system, Odman was convinced the marketers and the men in charge of the various Poker Networks were spending their budgets attracting the wrong players. He was convinced the money spent on attracting pros and winning players would work in the short term, but much like the practice of introducing any new predator to a closed eco-system, continuing to do so would damage and potentially destroy the poker eco-system these companies were working hard to create.

Odman began conceptualizing his recreational poker model that would focus on the net depositing recreational players rather than net withdrawing players such as pros and multi-table grinders...."

This reflect the core of their belief in sustainability of a poker site. They clearly don't believe that increase in overall volume corresponds to increase in profitability.

Source: http://calvinayre.com/2012/07/24/pok...l-poker-model/
There is a difference in making decisions that make the game sustainable versus making the software deliberately broken (for everyone, fish and pro alike) in an attempt to drive away regs. It is a very very stupid thing for him to say.

edit: just saw your other post, still not really directed at you as much as making the very important point that those saying the broken software is intentional are idiots. Occam's razor, etc.

Last edited by cking; 01-15-2016 at 01:03 PM.
01-15-2016 , 01:31 PM
The play is a little laggy now. Guess I can live with that. What tilts me is how difficult it is to get four tables going at once now, because (a) the tables are slow to open and teeming with those players lucky enough to have them open already and waiting to pounce on the first open seat, (b) a table will often get stuck at 97% when opening, and (c) I can no longer manually refresh the lobby by clicking back and forth between the cash game and tournament pages.
01-15-2016 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ATrainBoston
I am just becoming aware of this because I like playing on bovada and had like 1500 there; I had just taken two weeks off and decided to play a couple of days ago. Hated the new update; much less fun to play there.

I then read this thread and was reminded about all their anti-player tactics i.e. tiny points, no RB no synchro breaks, etc..and I say to myself; cmon why do I need this? I immediately click out 2/3 of my money . I will play there again when they get more pro-player or at least fix the bugs. I actually like playing at Juicy Stakes now!
How's the player pool at Juicy, is it reg infested? Good amount of traffic?
01-15-2016 , 02:52 PM
I took a week off from poker so yesterday was my first time playing with the new software. The lobby seems a little bit slower when it comes to opening tables and such. Dragging tables around seems slower. On the bright side, I noticed that the cards are being dealt much faster with shorter delays between actions and mouse clicks. Once they fix all the bugs, I think we will def be getting more hands/hour.

But the thing that really sucked is that my software just completely froze in the middle of my 3-tabling. I was in some incredibly juicy games too. And it never came back... I couldn't even close Bovada and had to reboot my computer.

So ya... pretty scared to play right now. Fortunately, I was not in any pots at the time. But I was like "What if that was a $1000 pot?" when it froze.

I7, SSD, Win 7 and such so I am on a fast PC fwiw.
01-15-2016 , 03:22 PM
I get some lag, and occasionally a SNG will snag at 97% and I have to close it and manually join my table.

I3, SSD, windows 8.1, 8GB ram

For those of you considering WPN, SNG traffic is horrible over there and there is comparable lag and disconnect issues that have been going on for months. (With that said I'm looking to soon be playing both sites at the same time.)
01-15-2016 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Kid 'n Play
How's the player pool at Juicy, is it reg infested? Good amount of traffic?
Sng is terrible traffic; tourneys suck too. I play 6 max $20 NL and there is usually 4-5 tables. A mix of decent players and fish. But gameplay seems lightning fast, and I get RB.
01-15-2016 , 04:52 PM
I hope they can bring back the method of being able to instantly refresh the lobby. I game select pretty hard and having to wait 1 min or whatever for the lobby to refresh on its own hurts my hands/hr quite a bit.
01-15-2016 , 05:09 PM
deff.. lil extra lagggy today for me

gl
01-15-2016 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr_Wonderful
I get some lag, and occasionally a SNG will snag at 97% and I have to close it and manually join my table.

I3, SSD, windows 8.1, 8GB ram

For those of you considering WPN, SNG traffic is horrible over there and there is comparable lag and disconnect issues that have been going on for months. (With that said I'm looking to soon be playing both sites at the same time.)
ya wpn has its own lags n discos as well... with a lot more regs than bv
01-15-2016 , 05:38 PM
I'm sure this all has already been pointed out, but seems like a definite memory leak. My bov client was hoarding up this resources and getting steadily slower with time. A simple client restart should fix the nastier lag

This sucks :|
01-15-2016 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TomoDaK
I'm sure this all has already been pointed out, but seems like a definite memory leak. My bov client was hoarding up this resources and getting steadily slower with time. A simple client restart should fix the nastier lag

This sucks :|
I noticed this too. After restarting the client it got much better. It also got bad enough that I noticed lag in other programs due to the Bovada client. It's hogging resources for sure. I'll check my memory usage next time the client is lagging.
01-15-2016 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ATrainBoston
I am just becoming aware of this because I like playing on bovada and had like 1500 there; I had just taken two weeks off and decided to play a couple of days ago. Hated the new update; much less fun to play there.

I then read this thread and was reminded about all their anti-player tactics i.e. tiny points, no RB no synchro breaks, etc..and I say to myself; cmon why do I need this? I immediately click out 2/3 of my money . I will play there again when they get more pro-player or at least fix the bugs. I actually like playing at Juicy Stakes now!
Lol Shillaments

I have money on Bovada and WPN and only play PLO. I put 100% of my action on one of these sites. Guess which. Guess why.
01-15-2016 , 06:57 PM
what is a memory leak and how can it be fixed?
01-15-2016 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ontiltinchicago
Microsoft did the same thing with the Windows 10 update and put a bunch of bugs in it on purpose... They want us to go to Apple lol

This guy is delusional .
Whatever you say, ****** shill.
01-15-2016 , 07:18 PM
Client is still a wreck. Lag and disconnecting from random tournament tables.
01-15-2016 , 09:29 PM
Very laggy for me tonight. Just opening a table from the lobby is taking a few seconds.

I'm going to assume Bovada has no intention of fixing this and this is the future of Bovada poker. Disappointing to say the least.
01-15-2016 , 10:01 PM
I can no longer join more than 1 zone table. Any after the first get stuck at 97%.
01-15-2016 , 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ontiltinchicago
While it maybe their philosophy . They are not going to sabotage their own software PERIOD



That is a theory that is completely absurd

Thank you. This is the logical truth.
It's amazing how many smart people think dumb things and more dumb people think dumber things.
01-15-2016 , 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by pb nuggs
Why do people keep spreading this nonsense? If they didn't want people to play poker, they wouldn't offer it. Since they do, they certainly don't benefit by losing a bunch of regular players. All that will happen is their gaurantees will go down, they will be lowered, and less people will be playing and depositing on the site than before.

If this was true, carbon would be the fastest growing site, but they aren't. They are slowly dying. Any site, from a poker persepective is going to want to keep players and get more players, not send them away.

BetOnline has terrible software, and a much higher % of rec players, but they are doing nowhere near the $ volume Bovada is doing from poker. It's about overall volume, which is going to include some winning regs.

Of course any site would prefer everyone to just play mindless casino games, but since not everyone is doing that.. I'm sure they will settle for some poker action and unfortunately for the house in this scenario, they aren't going to see 100% of this money.
It's clear that you simply don't get it.
01-15-2016 , 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TexasDolly
Thank you. This is the logical truth.
It's amazing how many smart people think dumb things and more dumb people think dumber things.
Believe what you want, but sometimes what you might think is logical is actually too simple to be true. Read up on it a little bit. Look at what Jonas Odman said about recreational gamblers vs. poker grinders.
01-15-2016 , 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Ace Jackoff
Believe what you want, but sometimes what you might think is logical is actually too simple to be true. Read up on it a little bit. Look at what Jonas Odman said about recreational gamblers vs. poker grinders.

TL/DR

cliffs. Plz.
01-15-2016 , 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Ace Jackoff
Look at what Jonas Odman said about recreational gamblers vs. poker grinders.
Most people know and understand Bodog's stance about regs vs recs. People who don't agree with your assessment aren't doing so out of ignorance of this; they disagree because making the software slow/laggy/unplayable/choose-your-adjective doesn't fit in with that model, at least not the way it's working out so far. If it simply made it so HUDs no longer worked, or made it more difficult to multitable, it might make sense (although it would make more sense to take steps like limiting everyone to 2 tables). But I've seen nothing about the issues that people are having that show they would help Bodog with a more rec-friendly model.

Now, there could be things that the new software allows them to do that will move them toward their goals - there has to be some reason for the change. But to suggest that just making it inconsistently unplayable for everyone was their goal is simply ridiculous. And using all-caps and berating people isn't going to convince anyone otherwise.

      
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