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02-27-2012 , 06:48 PM

#826

rauchi

enthusiast

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 72

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Originally Posted by LucianosDoll

No zoom in my client.. did i miss something ?

It's on the PokerStars Test-Client. Follow these instruction to play there: http://www.testpokerstars.com/instructions.html

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02-27-2012 , 07:56 PM

#827

HurtK

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 537

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Originally Posted by FullArsenal

How the **** did you get to this conclusion when by definition multi tabling zoom is going to be exactly the opposite ?

assuming you will get the same amount of hands/h on 4 tables of zoom like you could get on 16 normal tables, are you going to play better with less aoutopiloting on 4 zoom tables or 16 normal tables? i think the answer is pretty clear

What prevents a microstakes bumhunter who plays 25NL for ex. to buy as many hand histories as he can for this stake, mark the weak players with player notes and then join the player pool but only play when he has position on a fish and the rest of the time only get involved with premium hands ?

bumhunting at classic tables - you are not playing without fish on table at all. bumhunting on zoom tables? - you cant choose tables, you have to play good tables full of regs sometimes if you want to play with fish. Also you cant buy zoom/rush poker hands (but you can buy hands from standard tables)

The same thing with mass tabling nits only they probably won't need to buy hand histories.

+1. If zoom is succesful 50NL+ FR games will die not to mention it might attract the 6 max fish at small and midstakes and depending on your current stakes that could be either very good or very bad

RUSH didnt killed games on FTP so i dont see why ZOOM should kill games on Stars

Last edited by HurtK; 02-27-2012 at 08:12 PM.

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02-27-2012 , 08:19 PM

#828

ROM Amnesty

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,664

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Originally Posted by maxostoch

Do somebody knows the vpp system for zoom?

20% less than if it had been out last year.

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02-27-2012 , 08:30 PM

#829

KiWiKaKi

adept

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 951

i will never play normal tables again

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02-27-2012 , 08:33 PM

#830

Ifloattheflop

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 306

assuming you will get the same amount of hands/h on 4 tables of zoom like you could get on 16 normal tables, are you going to play better with less aoutopiloting on 4 zoom tables or 16 normal tables? i think the answer is pretty clear

HurtK, I won't go along with you on this point.
Let's say that 16 6 max tables= around 1200 hands
4 zoom tables= around 1200 hands

It's not a coincidence, one would really play about 1200 hands/hour.
What does that mean?
It means that at the end of the hour, you play the exact number of hands and the number
of tables has nothing to do whatsoever with auto-piloting.

I would even say that playing 16 normal tables would make your decisions less robotic because of the fact that you always play with the same players and you know both their position and history.

I disagree with your auto-pilot argument.

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02-27-2012 , 08:36 PM

#831

hypergeometry

adept

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 742

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Originally Posted by Ifloattheflop

What's the point of this discussion ? If you don't like zoom play normal tables.

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02-27-2012 , 08:53 PM

#832

KiWiKaKi

adept

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 951

yea have fun with the 10 players per waiting list at midstakes

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02-27-2012 , 09:00 PM

#833

whatwonder

Poker Agent

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 874

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Originally Posted by Ifloattheflop

HurtK, I won't go along with you on this point.
Let's say that 16 6 max tables= around 1200 hands
4 zoom tables= around 1200 hands

It's not a coincidence, one would really play about 1200 hands/hour.
What does that mean?
It means that at the end of the hour, you play the exact number of hands and the number
of tables has nothing to do whatsoever with auto-piloting.

I would even say that playing 16 normal tables would make your decisions less robotic because of the fact that you always play with the same players and you know both their position and history.

I disagree with your auto-pilot argument.

Sorry, but you're clearly wrong. When playing 16 tables, sometimes you will have 8 or more hands going on at once! When that happens, there are way too many variables to consider to make the absolute best play you're capable of on every table. With Zoom, you only really have to focus on one hand at a time, since you can easily just sit out on the tables on which you're not involved in a big pot. I mean if regs want to keep 16-tabling regular ring games instead of 4-tabling Zoom that's fine with me, but I don't know how you can argue that it's just as easy to play well on 16 tables as it is to play well on 4.

Also,

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Originally Posted by hypergeometry

If you don't like zoom play normal tables.

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02-27-2012 , 09:01 PM

#834

brrrap!

banned

Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,096

Zoom will be terribad unless you play 9/9 on 24 tables. Now you can click a button and wait for your premium hands.

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Originally Posted by KiWiKaKi

yea have fun with the 10 players per waiting list at midstakes

Start tables?

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02-27-2012 , 09:09 PM

#835

Exothermic

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 16,810

when will this be finalized??

dont really want to learn anything new to my marginal winning hold em game tbh ehh... anything that encourages nittiness should not be encouraged imo grr

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02-27-2012 , 09:18 PM

#836

HU4holes

banned

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 3,478

WE WANT ANTES ! ! !

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02-27-2012 , 09:30 PM

#837

KiWiKaKi

adept

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 951

god damn donkeys that think playing tight wins zoom poker

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02-28-2012 , 03:52 AM

#838

nikusch

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 568

Did tableninja function smoothly with Rush ?

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02-28-2012 , 04:44 AM

#839

NoTurns

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 104

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Originally Posted by whatwonder

I mean if regs want to keep 16-tabling regular ring games instead of 4-tabling Zoom that's fine with me, but I don't know how you can argue that it's just as easy to play well on 16 tables as it is to play well on 4.
Also,

Done tons of both on Tilt, 4 tabling Zoom/ Rush in my experience is definately easier and there's much less autopiloting.

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02-28-2012 , 04:50 AM

#840

bookish

adept

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 752

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Originally Posted by nikusch

Did tableninja function smoothly with Rush ?

Like a dream.

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02-28-2012 , 05:07 AM

#841

bmwteam

veteran

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,430

what about HM? mb need an update or something

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02-28-2012 , 05:42 AM

#842

happyeaster

adept

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 720

More hands, Less Auto-piloting sounds perfect.

I'm now 100% convinced to switch all my micro donk play to rush

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02-28-2012 , 05:59 AM

#843

cashy

we have welbeck

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 29,771

the "oh noes the games will be uber tight" comments are mindboggling
dont you guys realize that you can print money if nobody fights for pots?

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02-28-2012 , 07:19 AM

#844

2plus2equals5

newbie

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 42

I wonder will there be Zoom MTTs?

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02-28-2012 , 08:32 AM

#845

advancedURU

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 119

ZOOM 180 man sngs please

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02-28-2012 , 09:09 AM

#846

Loctus

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 11,280

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Originally Posted by cashy

the "oh noes the games will be uber tight" comments are mindboggling
dont you guys realize that you can print money if nobody fights for pots?

This lol. Blows my mind when people say stuff like "everybody just folds when I raise". Uhh... Raise and take the blinds all the time then?

Zoom PLO should be interesting. Rake at micros will probably be full-****** though considering a lower overall edge