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With Zoom poker about to be available what's the lowest stakes people will be grinding SN and SNE?

On terminal poker which is rush like, you have the option to stay and watch the action making note taking easier.

i think zoom is massive -ev for 27/22 type of players. We are focussing a lot on history and this seems kinda hard to create in zoompoker. On the other hand, it is probably profitable to steal every opportunity and c/f every flop according to all the responses in this thread(everybody seems fold happy)

I have to wait and see what the player pool does. Some features seems great tho, like going to the toilet without running and timing out.

image/history is non-existent pretty much with huge playerpools at least
i kinda like it though :P

I used to have some light 4 bet 5 bet dynamics with some regs at 100nl FR.

Me too. It happened at 50nl as well, though not really below that.

there is plenty of opportunity for dynamics to develop at Rush/Zoom...it was pretty common for me to get into battles at $100 and $200 stakes

To counter your argument there is also a lot of history to be made during a session. I dont even remember all the stuff i yesterday did at the tbls but im def knowing what i did to a player to my right a hour ago.

Do somebody knows the vpp system for zoom?

ya with smaller pools there is stuff like that but i just think on 50nl and below with hundreds of players its kinda hard to establish that ****

you'll be playing 1000-2000 hands/hr....you're going to develop some history with players, but it's kind of irrelevant as it's the micros, so most players won't be on a high enough thinking level to actually do something about the history

Anyone else had the problem where you have to sign in using an RSA key, but when you enter the RSA key it doesn't let you log in? It gives me a "No RSA key assigned to this user" error.

How the **** did you get to this conclusion when by definition multi tabling zoom is going to be exactly the opposite ?

What prevents a microstakes bumhunter who plays 25NL for ex. to buy as many hand histories as he can for this stake, mark the weak players with player notes and then join the player pool but only play when he has position on a fish and the rest of the time only get involved with premium hands ?

The same thing with mass tabling nits only they probably won't need to buy hand histories.

+1. If zoom is succesful 50NL+ FR games will die not to mention it might attract the 6 max fish at small and midstakes and depending on your current stakes that could be either very good or very bad

Try this and report back to us how much you win

The same stupid points are being made as when RUSH came out

There is now a news popup on the test site that says "Zoom is here" with an explanation of what it is.

If I had to guess I'd say they will release it soon

Just don't play it then. Most of those can be said about 24 tabling as well but no one is forcing you to 24 table. With your "big one" you might not click the re-player and watch the showdown but I sure will.
GTFO

I can still play on Stars and I use a HUD quite religiously. I'm not judging players who are using HUDs. I'm judging Stars for allowing them, it's bad for the game on multiple levels.

I have played tons of Rush and like I said there was a lot of dynamics going on there.

Furthermore, there are replayers and I don't recall stating I have anything against taking notes...

I'm excited

That will rarely get enough players to run

I disagree. full tilt had it, ran almost 24/7. Stars has more hi/lo players now than even full tilt did in its prime.

Between regs there's going to be tons of history and dynamics, even with pools running in the hundreds of players. Thats how it was in Rush. Furthermore just about all regs use HUDs. Maybe the regs who use HUDs better then others will lose a little edge if HUDs are disabled. In general though, the edges between regs won't change much and the game definately wont dumb down, more the opposite.

Regs probably will lose some edge on the fish though, and that's exactly my point. This way the fish will hang in there longer and the games will remain healthier. We are all complaining about the bad health of games, I predict, in zoom it will get worse if HUD's are allowed.

I myself consider myself a reg, and short term, it's probably not a good thing for my winrate if HUDs aren't allowed since I'll lose some of my edge on the games. Long term however I think the health of the games weighs more heavily.

Just some food for thought, fine if you disagree but try not to act like a 10 year old if you do.

No zoom in my client.. did i miss something ?