I'm sorry but you are wrong about this even if the support guys are right. If you join in, you are sit in BB 100%, while when you play a 100k hand session you are sit in BB only when it is your turn to sit in BB. You must be able to make that difference.

If they are wrong, then you are waaaaay off.

batman,

He is sitting out not the hand immediately after he doubles up, but on the first hand that he would have posted his BB on.

I don't get your point.

The guy from which I got the charts he is sitting out on next BB.

There is also one other fact: I often pressed sit-out-next BB only to sit back in at the same table and I was still always been dealt in the BB.

These mean that the situation is not valid for ratholers only, but it is valid for everyone.

I am really curious why is no one else posting their BBposted/orbit and their hand distribution. Some 10k hand sample with 1.4 BBposted/orbit would for sure make a good point now.

Here is my distribution. By my maths I have 1.494 blinds posted/orbit.

Batman I'm confused how your data ended up that way if you are sitting out on next bb.

Not if another player just started a session and you were post put at the same table for 1st hand, 50/50 chance in that scenario, as has happened to me

Great, time to find that video with the guy eating paper.

Are you playing long sessions? So only casual players & ratholers are punished?

Mods, can we move all the Zoom is rigged with regards paying blinds and position distribution for ratholers/shortstackers/casual players/grinders to a tinfoil hat bucket thread like the great poker is rigged thread?

[] Fact

That sample is 12 sessions w/ average of 50 minutes each

who really cares? It is the mechanics of the game?

There is nothing unfair or rigged about it. They are distributing hands as evenly as possible.

I've thought of a way Zoom is better than Rush.

The longer post-flop time-bank.

There. I've said it. I feel slightly guilty though.

The BB is not decided at random it's who has been in the BB the least often in the session. I presume that the sit out next BB will sit you out at the time you would be the BB if you had not clicked sit out.




•When you click OK, you will be randomly seated with a set of players from your chosen game. Your first hand will usually be from the big blind. For every subsequent hand you will be seated randomly.

•Players are seated randomly for each hand, and the blinds are then set depending on who among the players has been the big blind least often.

http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/zoom/

Well... everyone that is paying more BB/hand then they should. At least they should care...

It is the mechanics of the game, obviously.

They are not distributing hands as evenly as possible, that's the hole point.

There is nothing rigged about it, I agree. I am convinced they had/have the best intentions and that they did not foresee this. However, this is the result and they should change it now to a more even distribution(care about number of big blinds posted all time, not number of big blinds posted per session per table).

And with that, I am out of here. Who needed to see it saw it anyway and if you guys don't want to react... oh well, that's not up to me. I will be back at every 100k hands at FR to show you how cute what you call 'variance' can be.

PS. I don't even care, I play SH you ratholers should make a point, together with anyone that cares about the fish.

The real question is how many BBs are you losing arguing over this?

This is an extreme rat holing strategy that shows clearly the dispersion in 10K hands. If youre able to see it in 10k hands with your own eyes there is no need to make any calculus about how many bbs youre losing because the answer is obvious, its huge.

I would recommend to not play short sessions right now. A 50 min session seems to be giving less than 1.5bbs per orbit.

LOL the BB comes up less than the SB, and the SB is decided the same as any non BB hand.

Yes, looks like UTG<HJ<CO<BB<SB=BU. Anyway it's just a 10k sample size and it's not so clear whats going on about BB,SB and BU but it's so clear that the last 3 seats are making a huge INcrease in the bb/hand paid.

Pokerstars clearly state that everything but the BB is decided the same way. You don't no what you're talking about.

There must be something wrong about what Pokerstars is saying then. Do a test yourself before judging me. Go to play money tables and do a experiment.

In a Short Handed
1.Join a session.
2.First hand will be bb 100%
3.Second hand will be likely the sb (more than 50% of the times)
4.Third hand will be likely the bu (more than 25% of the times)
EDIT: 5. END YOUR SESSION and start a new one.

Take a pen and a paper and start taking notes of how often the second hand is going to be the small blind. By doing this you will see your words about -----Pokerstars clearly state that everything but the BB is decided the same way----- is wrong.

TIP: Don't believe everytime daddy tells you something like an absolute true.

You should definitely request your hand histories from Stars. It's quite likely that you closed the table far too quickly after you sat out and your last few hands were not written to disk.

Chimpanzee > hypergeometry > cabbage > batman22

was about to suggest the same thing

Gonna do it and I'll post as soon as I get it. We're gonna see in the next 24 hours how this end.

In my normal full ring play some of which I recorded there is no evidence of a bias on what hand comes up after the BB. But in a short play money session I just did, after I keep siting in and out all the time with the next BB it does seem like I tend to be in the SB more often after the BB. But the sample I did put me in the BB less often than would be expected from a small sample.