Yeah, but at lower stakes there could be more pools, isn't it so? And with time popularity of zoom might rise.

sigh. all this thread proves is online poker will never die.

thank **** for that

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yeah, of course. never mind the fish that play 100NL buyign in for their last 87.50$ or 66$. **** them. let's just let them move to lower stakes. then move the higher stakes fish lower and lower until high stakes dries up and regs start moving down.

Or, we can just imagine we live in a fantasy world where the fish will just buy in for 100BB anyway even if they don't actually have that much in their account.

But no, I get it guys, I do. Poker is harder and harder. And when all you do is setmine and wait for QQ+ to stack a fish (JJ and lower is setmining ldo) or cooler him w/AKO, it's really hard to win anymore these days unless said fish has 100bb so i understand why you would want all fish to be 100 bb deep.

Unfortunately, even if stars does this, a lot of the shortstacked fish u see in ur games now won't actually have the money to buyin for 100bb so u lose them. I know, hard concept right?


Stellar logic there, sirs.


****ing learn to play poker, eh? If it wasn't for the hordes of morans bitching and yelling at PS to do sth abt the goddamn SS-ers b/c THEY PERSONALLY didn't know how to play better against them, we wouldn't have had the abortion that was 20-50bb buyin tables or CAP and we would have had one goddamn player pool where regs who can't play postflop would lose to the ones who can (and yeah, even playing 20bb there are lots of ways to abuse shorstacks and lots of people did it) and the game would be poker not let's see who has the best hanchart and can grind the closest to .5-1bb/100 while masstabling and earning rakeback.



what's better einstein? having HEM and PT on the market for fish to be able to find if they look for it or having pokerstars advertise it in the lobby and on their website? Do you not see why fish should not be offered an option to bottom down automatically? If they do it, good for them. If the SSers want it automatic they can go suck a bunch of donkey ***** b/c they do little enough at the poker tables anyway. It's like "nooo i play 2 streets of poker, it's hard enough, let me be able to take it off the table automatically or with the click of a button. God forbid I actually leave the table and join back in OMG!!!!"

me thinks you ain't as smart as you think you is

maybe. but hes right

say what you will about me but CR coach/ssfr legend >>>> random zoo bustos

BOOM


(obv this is just imho, you're free to disagree and go back to ratholing them 25nl games b/c god forbid u find yourself deep against one of the handreading geniuses at that limit)

Fish aren't going to do that anyway

thank you, oh magic 8 ball.

it's not like they use fast-fold in zoom f that that's just for regs

Do not raise the min buy-in or do anything about the ratholing. For the love of god, don't scare the fish away.

I want to say that even though zoom is a big player pool and you are seated with new players every hand you do play many hands against the same players in the pool. With that said, buying down or ratholing should not be allowed. Zoom plays different than regular cash games but thats ok! Its a different animal. I don't know anyone who likes playing against shortstackers so let's keep it out of Zoom! I remember the days on stars where you could do the rebuy trick in cash games and the games had a lot more action and it was fun!

Dear stars, please keep zoom fun and protect the games.

ahahahahahahahahaaaaa yeah cause that's why the games were soft because the rebuy trick was allowed not b/c it was like 2005

yeee so annoying to play vs ppl who flat 4bets w/67s and setmine 40bb deep and are ****ing terrible postflop as well. give them 50bbs and they'll be out of their comfort zone even more b/c they HAVE to play postflop cant just jam 50bbs over 3x opens.


note this won't happen if you play 13/10.
womp womp womp

5000 hands today and I'm winning 41% of my hands at showdown like a Bosh (normally 53%). Down from yesterday's 45%. Zoom-switch activated.

+1

lol

Hey, I'm a nice guy so take it easy. The zoom games have been really fun so far because they play deeper than a typical .5/1 full ring game. I hope that stars keeps them that way.

If you say that these 50bb stack guys are horrible postflop then thats fine... Let them buy in for 50bb but don't let them rathole.

The specific thing that I think should not be allowed is professional players playing a 50bb stack and ratholing every time they win a pot (and there are several guys doing this already). I believe that this goes against the spirit of the game.

Not good for fish, and without them you would probably be working at a Burger King. If someone wants to leave with a 250bb stack and rejoin with 100bb that should be permitted.
It would be terrible for the games if you forced players into playing really deep if they aren't comfortable, all that will do is turn players away from Zoom.

bottom down?

+1

As if any fish would care about being deep, then rejoin to get back to 100bb lol. No fish thinks like that uuhh im uncomfortable with 250bb, they dont even know theres a difference when they play 250bb, cmon...Nothing more exciting for a fish to run up a 400bb stack.
Only bad regs care about that, so im still waiting for a logical argument why topping down should be allowed

+1

50bb poker is not shortstacking... Don't be ridiculous. Even a 40bb minimum buy-in for zoom would be absolutely fine. A lot of recreational player like to play medium stacks, so be happy that this is possible. 100bb min buy-in table would be a lot tougher.

So fish would stop playing if min buy-in would be 100bb? of course not! they would just drop down 1 limit. problem solved!

Yes 100bb minbuyin would be not that great, fish love to buy in with their last 41$ at 50NL or whatever they have left in their cashier. But i can also see the argument that they will just move down to where they can buyin with 100bb, so i could really care less.
i dont care about 50bb shortstackers 99.9% are bad anyways. Just the insta re-join to top down your stack has to be stopped, you really need to make a time limit on it Steve.
Also i think there is not one single fish who "likes" to play a medium stack, they dont even know what a medium stack is and just buy in with whatever amount they think is good.

******s ITT