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Originally Posted by IamPro
I believe they gave everyone .016 per fpp but I could be wrong
Surprisingly there's very few posts addressing this on the forum, this is about all I could find on the subject:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...23&postcount=5
http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/news/washington/faq/#s1
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What will happen to my FPPs?
You can purchase any items in the VIP Store until the end of 2011.
[original post said 2010, was obviously extended later]
By the end of the day on October 1, we will be removing the play-through requirement for all newly purchased VIP Reward Bonuses, so you will be able to purchase cash bonuses based on your VIP status.
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Originally Posted by togwotee59
1 - The value of FPPs is solely determined by Stars, and always has been. This value has changed over time, and will continue to change over time. Regardless of anyone's opinion, it is their call to make, and always will be.
While this is true, imagine if stars decided to screw over US players completely by saying they get nothing for their FPPs. The result would be that non-US players would immediately lose trust in them. So it's in stars' best interest to satisfy their customers, but they feel they can make a bit of a money grab here without offending too many customers too greatly.
In fairness, I was inclined to say the airlines miles comparison was right on, but on second thought I think that may be flawed: what would happen if hypothetically you have airline miles for certain value and that airline doesn't go bankrupt but discontinues service in the United States? I know I'd want full value but I'd fear they may well decrease value in whatever way they redeem miles in such a situation. Perhaps someone with more knowledge could answer, although that may be going off on a bit of a tangent.
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2 - The smart people bought tournament tickets on April 15th while they were still available, and received a generous value on their FPPs. I don't understand why we can't still do that - since we were able to do so then, but most people didn't realize it. That was an option that was available on that date, but is not available now.
This upsets me a lot, mostly because on the 15th I was debating whether to do this and ultimately put it off; the next day the option was gone and now I lose a few hundred in value as a result.
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3 - Since it is clear the DOJ is not concerned with what the actual exchange rate of FPPs are, why can't the store add a few 'new' bonuses that are only available to U.S. players, and only available until the end of the month? Or, at least, the equivalent ticket value, as has already been done. For example, a 700FPP=$11 option, etc.
And lastly, everyone should really calm down. Intelligent discussion is one thing, but reading through every post in this thread, its like every is just shouting at each other. Most every point has been made. No problem continuing to make them, but jeez, a little respect may go a long way here. Or maybe not, I could be wrong.
Agreed with everything here. However, while I am happy for how stars has handled most things, similar to most others here I see this as them stealing some money (mostly in value of FPPs lost but also in FPPs being left in accounts, unrecoverable) from a lot of players which collectively adds up. So I can certainly understand the frustration when other people suggest that they should just accept stars thieving most of their US players merely because it could be worse, or because the other sites are worse, or whatever.
