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Old 10-30-2011, 06:28 PM   #126
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Re: NEWS: Everleaf touches the untouchable - Lowers rake on all US$ tables to a $1 cap Nov1-Dec

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What type of people that even semi care about poker would charge that?
Italians. And they do care, especially about their revenue.
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Old 10-30-2011, 07:50 PM   #127
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On Nov 1st I will see whats up. I just have a hard time trusting a site that would rob people so viciously. The euro rake is pure robbery. What type of people that even semi care about poker would charge that?
Thats why i am supporting Minted and Raise and Fold poker as they were against this change and certainly care more about poker than those who see it fit to charge 6% rake with a €7 cap even when heads up.

Ridiculous and if operaters liike this had their way, they would turn what is supposed to be a game of skill into another -EV casino game for the stupids.

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Old 10-30-2011, 08:38 PM   #128
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Re: NEWS: Everleaf touches the untouchable - Lowers rake on all US$ tables to a $1 cap Nov1-Dec

one dolla max rake tho
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Old 10-31-2011, 06:06 PM   #129
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Re: NEWS: Everleaf touches the untouchable - Lowers rake on all US$ tables to a $1 cap Nov1-Dec

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- Everleaf has lowered all US$ tables, limits & games, to having a $1 rake cap from November 1st until Dec 31st
I got excited, but only cash game tables, not SNGs too? Disappointed that this isn't something I can jump behind.

Party did it for MTTs a bit ago, now Everleaf for cash games, where's our SNG love?
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Old 10-31-2011, 07:35 PM   #130
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Re: NEWS: Everleaf touches the untouchable - Lowers rake on all US$ tables to a $1 cap Nov1-Dec

Great news this. I will make an acc. on Minted on the 1st.

I would have preferred a lower percentage instead of a lower cap tho.

Hope to see some PLO $ tables.
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Old 10-31-2011, 08:13 PM   #131
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Re: NEWS: Everleaf touches the untouchable - Lowers rake on all US$ tables to a $1 cap Nov1-Dec

unfortunately the rake at the usd tables is not the problem... i mean there's 8 NL100 tables running right now, and they're all euro, 0 usd tables.

i'm all for lowered rake, but the euro tables are the name of the game on the everleaf network, and the rake is still horrid.

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Old 10-31-2011, 08:35 PM   #132
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Re: NEWS: Everleaf touches the untouchable - Lowers rake on all US$ tables to a $1 cap Nov1-Dec

I decided to support this. My reasoning is it might show sites that lower rake can lead to higher volume. Maybe it will start a new trend.
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Old 10-31-2011, 08:42 PM   #133
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Re: NEWS: Everleaf touches the untouchable - Lowers rake on all US$ tables to a $1 cap Nov1-Dec

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Great news this. I will make an acc. on Minted on the 1st.

I would have preferred a lower percentage instead of a lower cap tho.

Hope to see some PLO $ tables.
It is the 1st now according to their server time. It may only happen on new tables generated. I just checked out a PLO table and the rake was >$1.
There is no mention of the rake change when I logged on just now. Hopefully more $ tables will run now. You are the traffic.
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Old 10-31-2011, 09:16 PM   #134
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Re: NEWS: Everleaf touches the untouchable - Lowers rake on all US$ tables to a $1 cap Nov1-Dec

How would I know if a table has just been generated? I'm about to make an account in 5-10 mins and will be trying to start some 10NL/20NL tables.
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Old 11-01-2011, 12:32 AM   #135
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Re: NEWS: Everleaf touches the untouchable - Lowers rake on all US$ tables to a $1 cap Nov1-Dec

cmon you rake nits, im sitting lets get some tables going

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Old 11-01-2011, 02:01 AM   #136
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Re: NEWS: Everleaf touches the untouchable - Lowers rake on all US$ tables to a $1 cap Nov1-Dec

Saw some $25/$50 action a few days ago, I wonder if they got the memo about the $1 US table rake.
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Old 11-01-2011, 05:32 AM   #137
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Re: NEWS: Everleaf touches the untouchable - Lowers rake on all US$ tables to a $1 cap Nov1-Dec

So i signed up , deposited and played a short session.
software is not that bad imo.

But the rake was higher than $1 !!!!!!!
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Old 11-01-2011, 05:44 AM   #138
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Re: NEWS: Everleaf touches the untouchable - Lowers rake on all US$ tables to a $1 cap Nov1-Dec

so they actually took >1$ rake of players who just played there, because they knew it was capped at 1$. Hope you get it fixed soon, Neil - this might just be not that good for your company.
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Old 11-01-2011, 05:54 AM   #139
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Re: NEWS: Everleaf touches the untouchable - Lowers rake on all US$ tables to a $1 cap Nov1-Dec

Tried to download the software from minted poker get this error "Sorry, but there's no client software available according to your request.", they should get there **** together.
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Old 11-01-2011, 06:28 AM   #140
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Re: NEWS: Everleaf touches the untouchable - Lowers rake on all US$ tables to a $1 cap Nov1-Dec

just logged in again : there is actually a news pop up that announces this promo but they are still raking more than $1 .

I downloaded the software fine with chrome via RTR just a few hours ago.
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Old 11-01-2011, 06:52 AM   #141
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Re: NEWS: Everleaf touches the untouchable - Lowers rake on all US$ tables to a $1 cap Nov1-Dec

Raking more than $1 is more than a joke, it is embarrassing and everleaf have someone dealing with this right now.

Anyone affected must contact me and I will ensure you receive a full refund.

Sorry about this, I really am lost for words.

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Old 11-01-2011, 07:46 AM   #142
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Re: NEWS: Everleaf touches the untouchable - Lowers rake on all US$ tables to a $1 cap Nov1-Dec

We know its not the fault of Minted or any of the skins but its kinda typical for Everleaf
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Old 11-01-2011, 08:34 AM   #143
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Re: NEWS: Everleaf touches the untouchable - Lowers rake on all US$ tables to a $1 cap Nov1-Dec

Perhaps they need a new software guy.
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Old 11-01-2011, 09:14 AM   #144
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Re: NEWS: Everleaf touches the untouchable - Lowers rake on all US$ tables to a $1 cap Nov1-Dec

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the euro tables, i hear all the time complaints about the high rake. yet these tables (at least the plo tables) are the softest, loosest game full of donks i've ever seen, and its highly profitable. i recommend people to sign up for this site to get at these fish.
Yeah!!! It would be great if all the winning players on 2+2 can help us get rid of all the fish!!! Maybe theres other forums you can post in to help get rid of them faster!!!
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Old 11-01-2011, 09:21 AM   #145
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Re: NEWS: Everleaf touches the untouchable - Lowers rake on all US$ tables to a $1 cap Nov1-Dec

Errors and bugs happen, but seems odd nobody tested such a massive change.

Anyway, please give an update when this is resolved, I looked at the tables yesterday but unfortunately not a single NL25-100 $-table was running (~20pm CET). Hope to get some started or find some running later, but only if this is fixed.

Seems to me like this really needs to get some critical mass to have an impact, at least getting the tables running constantly.
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:10 AM   #146
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Re: NEWS: Everleaf touches the untouchable - Lowers rake on all US$ tables to a $1 cap Nov1-Dec

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Yeah!!! It would be great if all the winning players on 2+2 can help us get rid of all the fish!!! Maybe theres other forums you can post in to help get rid of them faster!!!
As far as I know he didn't post in Italian, right? Most of these fish barely speak English, let alone know what rake is. They just love to gamble.
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:57 AM   #147
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As far as I know he didn't post in Italian, right? Most of these fish barely speak English, let alone know what rake is. They just love to gamble.
I think perhaps you missed my point. It is the idea of coming to a forum full of some of the best players in the world bragging about how profitable the tables he plays on are and urging all of the good players to come eradicate the fish that I found counter productive and worthy of mockery hoping others see the ridiculousness of making posts like that and hoping they refrain from doing the same in the future.

I can assure him that if only two winning players take his advice and replace two casual players at his 6max table joining the other two regs already there it wont look nearly as attractive as it did before he posted.

Seems stupid to me if you like winning and or money thats all and it negatively effects other forum members as well so quiet is kept seems like a better strategy if you find some good games nowadays.

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Old 11-01-2011, 12:14 PM   #148
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Re: NEWS: Everleaf touches the untouchable - Lowers rake on all US$ tables to a $1 cap Nov1-Dec

Well like a week ago there were no USD games running period, other than HU. So if its six regs per table the site will make more than theyre making now..
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Old 11-01-2011, 12:27 PM   #149
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Well like a week ago there were no USD games running period, other than HU. So if its six regs per table the site will make more than theyre making now..

Nevermind guys.
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Old 11-01-2011, 02:37 PM   #150
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Imma sign up for a Minted account when this **** gets sorted.

I wonder if Everleaf did this deliberately...
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