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I have reason to believe that Holisterb22 and  "hollisterb22BF" are the same player I have reason to believe that Holisterb22 and  "hollisterb22BF" are the same player

02-14-2012 , 07:06 AM
to trade between skins, less rake than HUSNGs
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02-14-2012 , 08:20 AM
jesus she turned P5's into facebook

but seriously, I really think there is nothing nefarious going on.

my guess is that the most unethical thing that has possibly ever occured between the two of them is the occasional chatter about hands they are playing. i really don't take offense to this. it may be a grey area (depending on the direction of the conversations) in online poker ethics, but their live banter doesn't really affect their profit. maybe if one was terribad and the other was really good. but it sounds like both are grinder vets so who friggen cares.

i have never seen them together at the same table and i am seated at the same table with each of them at least a few occasions every day

i told her in the chat window today that there was a funny thread about her on 2p2 and she should check it out...dunno if she saw
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02-14-2012 , 08:25 AM
yeah she saw lol, she messaged me on facebook to tell me to take a look at this, long story short OP is suspicious with no real evidence even though multiple notable people in the community are willing to back both the players stories.
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02-14-2012 , 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by MrBubbleBoy
yeah she saw lol.
and now you and her know my Lock SN...

should have closed my 2p2 tab while i still had the chance...

Last edited by bs_jayhawk; 02-14-2012 at 08:35 AM. Reason: keep it secret, keep it safe
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02-14-2012 , 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by bs_jayhawk
and now you and her know my Lock SN...

should have closed my 2p2 tab while i still had the chance...
she never told me who said it, only that somebody told her to check it out
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02-14-2012 , 09:00 AM
so you're saying i've still got a chance
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02-14-2012 , 12:34 PM
Wow this thread just made me so famous so I thank you HATER!!!! First of, I don't care what you all think...I know and the people who matters know that we're 2 different people and who the fk is Hollisterboy22? Never heard of him!!!! I never even played with that person ever....and oh yeah, I was never backed by some creepy sites on ps or FTP and hollisterb22 is the only screen name I have ever used...just throwing it out there! I guess it's funny to me that the person who started this whole thing actually got really mad because I didn't wanna add some random stranger on my Facebook so he make this up to get my attention... Well done sir!!!!


#almostcrackedittho.com
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02-14-2012 , 12:35 PM
p.s I expect my $10 for cracking this case ASAP...

Arigato gaisamasu
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02-14-2012 , 01:49 PM
lol
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02-14-2012 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by AirborneSapper9845
You are wrong. It is absurd. I understand these days sometimes people 'have to' share same or similar IP addresses. Dorm rooms, apt buildings, roommates, frat houses, schools, etc.

However, pretend you're playing a WSOP tournament this summer. You are 4 friends are each in the same event. Any any time, can you call your 4 friends over to see your cards, give advice, share notes and HUD stats, etc? Hell no. So why should any network give a green light for this to online players?
I haven't read through all of this thread yet, but don't act like poker players who all live together and grind out mtts dont share information thorughout the tourneys.

Also I think Irene is a lot more aggro and spewy then mugger. but both good players.
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02-14-2012 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by clantaztic
I haven't read through all of this thread yet, but don't act like poker players who all live together and grind out mtts dont share information thorughout the tourneys.

Also I think Irene is a lot more aggro and spewy then mugger. but both good players.
Don't act like this is perfectly acceptable and doesn't give them an unfair advantage. Don't act like this isn't a large reason why most casual and recreational players have abandoned playing online poker, drying up a lot of the dead money. Don't act like the online poker community and economy is better off overall because people chose to do this.
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02-14-2012 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by hollisterb22
p.s I expect my $10 for cracking this case ASAP...

Arigato gaisamasu
This is so awesome...you need to poast a pic with you holding the hollisterb22 sign thats dated so we can all know that ur 2+2 isn't a gimmick acct
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02-14-2012 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by AirborneSapper9845
Don't act like this is perfectly acceptable and doesn't give them an unfair advantage. Don't act like this isn't a large reason why most casual and recreational players have abandoned playing online poker, drying up a lot of the dead money. Don't act like the online poker community and economy is better off overall because people chose to do this.
WTF are you talking about, no where did I say that online poker community is better because of this. I'm Simply saying "Don't act" like hollister and mugsy are the first people to play together in the same house. Yeah it sucks people are playing in the same house but thats been going on for a long time.

Sites have been messing with this for awhile now, so I think blocking them from playing STTs and cash games is obv the right move. Yeah it sucks with merges smaller fields they will probably run into each other at least once a night, but hopefully when that happens they are honest with themselves and respect the game.
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02-14-2012 , 05:56 PM
I dont know either one of them, but i can say it cant be proven. Ok its a good theory the guy got 2 accts for rakeback and all and bonuses and for cashouts, but you cant prove it.

This Irene is obviously a real person yeah, but it also cant be proven she plays cards, it could just be this guys gf who says she plays. Anyone who"knows her" cant possibly vouche and no1 knows for SURE whos who, anyone can be on the other end and send a picture of a girl, and making up stories.

IT is pretty shady the history and facts against them and a huge lol to the people who think if they are on a table theres not any"hey hon what you got this hand, can i reshove the river on this 4flush board with my king because the ACE was dead cuz you folded " crap going on.

Just drop it cuz it cant be proven1 way or another and its IMPOSSIBLE to prove, as long as this guy got the ID to ship to the site hes home free
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02-14-2012 , 09:41 PM
this thread is dumb as hell.

as it stands, the evidence OP has presented as being indicative of wrongdoing equates to "i know these people are roommates....LOOK THEYRE PLAYING THE SAME TOURNAMENTS OMG SCAMMERS"

what scammer opens two accounts, hollisterb22 and hollisterb22smanobv, and uses those accounts to cheat? lol?

OP---since you bolded it in your first post to make it loud and clear---you can for sure tell us these two accounts are one guy? pretty ****ty to say that on a public forum when you don't have a shread of verifiable evidence to support that claim beyond two roommates/friends/bf/gf playing the same tournaments.

Last edited by BLUEberLEEZ; 02-14-2012 at 09:47 PM.
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02-14-2012 , 10:14 PM
lol what a cluster****. nice detective work OP. They are definitely different people and both good players. I mean if you were going to multi account don't you think you would go with 2 less obvious screen names?
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02-15-2012 , 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by BLUEberLEEZ
this thread is dumb as hell.

as it stands, the evidence OP has presented as being indicative of wrongdoing equates to "i know these people are roommates....LOOK THEYRE PLAYING THE SAME TOURNAMENTS OMG SCAMMERS"

what scammer opens two accounts, hollisterb22 and hollisterb22smanobv, and uses those accounts to cheat? lol?

OP---since you bolded it in your first post to make it loud and clear---you can for sure tell us these two accounts are one guy? pretty ****ty to say that on a public forum when you don't have a shread of verifiable evidence to support that claim beyond two roommates/friends/bf/gf playing the same tournaments.
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Originally Posted by Counting Bodies
lol what a cluster****. nice detective work OP. They are definitely different people and both good players. I mean if you were going to multi account don't you think you would go with 2 less obvious screen names?
The bold was a qoute from my convo with a different reg. I thought that was obvious. I never said the accts were one person. But thanks for being a tard and not knowing how to read. I love it when fish like you sit my tables.
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02-15-2012 , 04:23 AM
gr8 thread
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02-15-2012 , 04:31 AM
I've played with Hollister22 and Hollister22smanobv. They are very different players. Also when chatting with them you can tell that one is female and the other is male. I gotta say that manobv's game is getting better. I went through a stretch where I was busting him in every tourney.
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02-15-2012 , 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Counting Bodies
lol what a cluster****. nice detective work OP. They are definitely different people and both good players. I mean if you were going to multi account don't you think you would go with 2 less obvious screen names?
Um, are you serious? I completely agree something fishy may be going on (whether it be m/aing, using each others accounts, may have other accounts?, gimmick with the whole girl thing, etc.) but to say they are both good players is laughable at best and actually just a completely ******ed and absurd statement. "She" has <10k profit over 2 years and >9k mtts played. Add that with her cash game losses on every site and she is break-even at best. Hard to believe someone that looks as good as she does is wasting away grinding it out like that. She has poker listed on her P5s profile as her profession and it also suggests she grinds 1/2 and 2/5 at Mohegan (can anyone confirm, anyone seen her?) Something is not adding up here.

I've played with her a decent amount over the past month. She plays alright ABC poker for the most part, but makes huge fundamental mistakes (only note on merge: flat utg 2.2x raise utg+1 with 12 bbs and c/f a Kxx flop 3 way; I was utg raiser and was c/fing cuz i was convinced the "solid reg" had to have aces obv). The showdowns I've seen have been played standard at best and pretty unimpressive (bet sizing pretty horrendous).

She also has berated me on several occasions, calling out my merge "stats" of like -500 or something over 60ish mtts, lol. The way she berated me did seem kinda feminine (cant explain just vibe I got) and I've never really thought she wasn't a girl.

Whoever this hollisterb22 person may be, I don't feel they are a big threat skill wise. However, the integrity of these accounts should probably be in question.
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02-15-2012 , 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by asherma3
http://www.okcupid.com/profile/hollisterboy22

hollisterb22 is that person

hollisterb22manobv is his lover...

/thread
This is the only post that has made sense thus far
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02-15-2012 , 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Taylor14e
I've played with both of them on multiple occasions and I came to the conclusion that Hollisterb22 coaches hollisterb22smanobv and is probably in the same room while they are grinding wether they are at the same table or not. When I've played with manobv he seems a lot fishier. I would imagine that those were times when hollisterb22 was not sitting behind him. I just figured that hollisterb22 was teaching her boyfriend the game of poker and most likely backing him in the process.
Let's see how he did
Hollisterb22 coaches him. Check
She backs him. Check
He is a fish. Check check

Looks like we have a young Einstein on our hands
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02-15-2012 , 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by BLUEberLEEZ
this thread is dumb as hell.


what scammer opens two accounts, hollisterb22 and hollisterb22smanobv, and uses those accounts to cheat? lol?
You obv aren't thinking deep enough smart guy he is obv doing this so that people like you won't think he's cheating. He knows that nobody could possible be dumb enough to multi acct w. names that similar so that is actually what he does. We are clearly dealing with some sort of mastermind here.
He even went as far as having his gf send in pics for him and talk at the tables. Even tho he is guilty obv you still have to give him credit for being this dedicated. And it's clear that the only one smart enough to see through his grand scheme is dhcg86
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02-15-2012 , 07:37 AM
lol triple post

/thread
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02-15-2012 , 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by bs_jayhawk
lol triple post

/thread
Derail..what in the heck is going on in that avatar of yours? lol
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