Are you implying banonlinepoker isn't a technician capable of determining the quality of a hardware RNG by merely looking at it?

What do you think an RNG is?

Here's a unique summary of a 9-man SnG that I won in what seemed a fairly simple manner. I wanted to see how this tournament would be viewed from each player's perspective and how their "at risk" hands played out vs. their percentages.

I will start with the first person to bust out and go onward, looking at each player separately.

9th place:
all-in and lost 12th hand as a dog (20/79)
79% chance to take 9th, hit
(survival chance: 20%)

8th place (biggest $ loser at table):
all-in and won 8th hand as a favorite (67/32)
all-in and won 10th hand as a favorite (74/25)
all-in and won 18th hand as a dog (19/81)
all-in and lost 24th hand as a dog (18/81)
32% chance to take 9th, miss
25% chance to take 9th, miss
81% chance to take 8th, miss
81% chance to take 8th, hit
(survival chance: 1.7%)

7th place (biggest $ winner at table):
all-in and lost 38th hand as a coin flip (55/45)
45% chance to take 7th, hit
(survival chance: 55%)

6th place:
all-in and lost 44th hand as a dog (5/95)
95% chance to take 6th, hit
(survival chance: 5%)

5th place:
all-in and lost 46th hand as a dog (25/75)
75% chance to take 5th, hit
(survival chance: 25%)

4th place:
took out 8th place as a favorite (81/18)
took out 7th place as a coin flip (45/55)
took out 6th place as a favorite (95/5)
all-in and lost 101st hand as a dog (38/61)
61% chance to take 4th, hit
(survival chance: 38%)

3rd place:
took out 5th place as a favorite (75/25)
all-in and won 70th hand as a favorite (80/20)
all-in and won 80th hand as a coin flip (52/48)
all-in and lost 111th hand as a dog (22/77)
20% chance to take 4th, miss
48% chance to take 4th, miss
77% chance to take 3rd, hit
(survival chance: 9.2%)

2nd place:
took out 9th place as a favorite (79/20)
all-in and won 34th hand as a favorite (68/31)
took out 4th place as a favorite (61/38)
all-in and lost 114th hand as a coin flip (50/49)
31% chance to take 7th, miss
49% chance to take 2nd, hit
(survival chance: 34%)

1st place:
all-in and won 35th hand as a dog (33/67)
all-in and won 67th hand as a favorite (70/30)
all-in and won 78th hand as a favorite (69/31)
took out 3rd place as a favorite (77/22)
took out 2nd place as a coin flip (49/50)
67% chance to take 7th, miss
30% chance to take 4th, miss
31% chance to take 4th, miss
(survival chance: 15.9%)

Two things of note in this tournament. First, the biggest $ winner and loser (according to past SnG's) went out in 7th and 8th place respectively. How each went out is clearly different, though. The loser seems to have been given more chances (even as a severe underdog), while the winner lost his first at risk hand as a coin flip. Also, before this tournament, my ROI on SnG's was pretty awful. Was I given a boost in my first all-in? Unknown.

Second, each player busted out of the tournament getting their chips in as a coin flip (2) or worse (6).

Not sure I have any conclusions, just sharing the info.

Edit: Forgot to mention that the one hand the big $ loser won as a severe underdog, just happened to be against the big $ winner. Interesting?

People are not getting insulted 'every time'.

As soon as they start posting reasonably the insults immediately stop.

I even made a couple of polite posts to snake back there.

I'm starting to see the funny side of this, now.

Try walking into the head office of your bank and demanding to see proof that everything is above board and see how far you get.

Yes, poor wording on my part, sorry.

haha... said in jest, of course

I have this image of someone looking for a bridge forum who stumbles in here and spends the next several years debating the riggedness of poker sites.

Ok, acknowledge the feeling, but then actually go back and look over the handhistories. Are you each time really running back on ALL 8-12 tables? Do you start running bad on each of those tables at exactly the same time?

These are the types of questions you can ask yourself to start seeing if something is wrong.

I can't get the variance simulator (http://www.pokervariancesimulator.fr/) to work now but if you can play around with it you will find that you can have a downswing of several thousands of hands, sometimes tens of thousands. 8-tabling (or more) is not enough to go through that amount of hands in a session.

You are of course right SM, but his point seems to be not that he's getting doomswitched, but that he's getting doomswitched in a regular, predictable, pattern.

That's just based on your perception though, have you actually gone through your handhistories to see? That's my point

LOL, yes I can see how it would appear that way, at least from my perspective. For me, the answer is easy: I'm a refresh my subscription list junky and have a tab on my browser that let's me do it very easily. I have a high stress/mentally demanding desk job and take mental breaks between tasks to see what's up.

Why I'm posting at all hours lately is because I have a newborn and somehow my wife has gotten me to agree to take the night shift and so I'm feeding the baby several times a night now and what else am I going to do?

ROFLMAO.

The world has more than one time-zone!

Seems pretty suspicious. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

The world is rogged, imo.

WTF? Are you serious? I really thought you were being serious there for a bit which is why I was back to giving you serious responses. Maybe you really believe this. For someone who has played so many hands, you have a pretty poor understanding of variance. I'm not meaning this in a derogatory manner, you really need to read up on it.

I thought he was asking why I was responding to him at all hours of the night. Yes, time-zones FTW.

What does an "irregular" session of random cards look like? I'm pretty sure that's a contradiction in terms.

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I've played about 670k hands and although it's not a million, I too think I'm qualified to recognize a session of an irregular amount of beats. But fortunately since I'm a shill and get paid to post here, the sites don't force me to run too much below EV.

In addition to the pay cheque, the benefits are pretty good.

Hey! I'm not getting benefits! Whose your agent? Think I need better representation!

Sigh, Snake, with all due respect, you really need to take a step back and really - I mean really - try to understand the lesson Spadebidder has been giving you. He made an important point there. Just spend a few minutes with it. I'm not being glib or rude here. Really try and get what he's saying with that statement and you will have advanced your understanding of what random means and what variance is.

Given that you're back to the name calling, I think that's the last I'll respond to you for a bit. By the way, it would be nice if Spadebidder could be considered a moron, that would mean that our society was filled with a whole lot of really ****ing smart people!

You guys are giving lessons to a guy who only cares about trolling and getting attention, and you will see that he will do what it takes to keep you guys talking forever and ever. His history here is creating gimmick accounts to do just that.

Seriously, I have no idea why you are bothering with him in any way, even as a "hobby." Stick to the genuine riggies or the "I am not sure" guys if you want to have some fun or be the nice guy giving advice.

This guy is just a black hole, and every post you guys make to him is a win for him.

Yeah, he was posting reasonably for awhile, but you are right. On the other hand, there are lots of lurkers, so I don't think the information is wasted.