Sounds like you believe have uncovered the secrets to unlimited wealth yet again, so how come with all of these discoveries you and other riggies still languish in freerolls and 2NL?

Exploit the mouse movement thing for untold riches. Do a youtube video on it, and put Pokerstars out of business. Try to crowdsource a lot of other riggies to help.

You can do that, or exploit the new/donk player belief by creating donk accounts with other people (run it up at higher buy ins and do a single withdraw), or you can do what you will do - continue to lose and whine about pots with pennies.

I am happy knowing what your fate is, regardless of how much of a troll you might be, because you definitely have what it takes to continue to languish as a below average 2 NL player, so the more you whine about that, the more you annoy other shills, and the more I smile.

I look forward to your next 2nl whinepost! Tell some of those other "2NL regs" about the thread so they can also whine here, the more the merrier. Maybe you guys can post hands against each other where you each still think it is rigged, despite one of you winning the hand, that could be festive.

All the best.

Not your own input. Everybody's input. Combined.

I can't 'exploit' the mouse movement since I don't know what the 'correct' movement is for AA. If I did, yeah I could ensure I got twice as many AA hands as anyone else (as per the 50% user input) which, while not a path to 'untold riches', would certainly help.

But the only people who will know the correct mouse movement will be people Pokerstars wants to know. I.e. the superusers and the high stakes pros sponsored by Pokerstars.

I'll definitely be taking note of what I did with my mouse in the immediate few seconds prior to getting dealt AA next time, however.

No, you couldn't. Because this tiny aspect of the random number generation would be dependent not only on your own mouse movements and events timings but also on those of every other player.

So even if you repeated precisely, to the pixel, your own mouse movements from the last time you got dealt AA, it wouldn't make you any likelier to repeat that deal unless every other player did exactly the same.

And even then it would only happen a tiny fraction of the time when the numbers from the user input combined in exactly the same way with those from the hardware RNG, which is in itself vanishingly improbable.

Yeah, you are on the right path to riches, and you should dedicate a considerable amount of effort and time into cracking the mouse movement conspiracy that is part of what keeps your kind down.

You should try to recruit other riggies to help, and perhaps build your own forum where you share your mouse tracking movements information, and remember how you see your mouse move is probably all that is needed to work this out, so get to it and keep us updated on the progress!

Also, post more whiny 2NL hands - it is fun watching people like you get nowhere, so keep at it. Other shills mock you, but as you can see I support your efforts.

All the best.

Talking of getting nowhere...Monteroy's latest stats...

http://www.officialpokerrankings.com...E14FB.html?t=3

HAHAHAHAHA

Whats wrong with his stats? Not as if yours are even close to that.

$2300 profit this year is piss poor for someone who acts like he's gods gift to poker.

As for my stats, they're only low because of the rig. Meanwhile, Monteroy has the Pokerstars boomswitch on his account and still can't even chisle out more than a McDonalds burger flipper would make.

If I had that boomswitch we'd be looking at high 5 figures per month.

No we wouldn't. Your not that good. Nor will you be.

Hes made 147k since 2007

A lot more than someone flipping burgers would make.

The gibbering of the insane.

What you say makes no sense. It makes no sense because you have no understanding whatsoever of the things that you think that you realise.

I have played a total of about 5 days this year. Played some March 2nd, and some Feb 23rd and some Jan 26th etc. Easy to see when you look at my results.

I back people full time. You play full time every day (after all you call yourself a "reg"). I play barely part time.

I still make a lot more than you at the poker tables even though I do not even look at my results ever until end of year for tax purposes, since they do not matter to me. Isn't that great!

That's why I love when guys like you continue to waste tons of time and energy at games like 2NL that you cannot even beat. You cannot make me mad, all you can do is cheer me up every time you post your rage and paranoia, regardless of whether you are partially trolling or not. Even if you were a full troll (which you are not) - that would not matter, because many lower end humans just like how you post that exist in this world, so whether you are fake in anyway is irrelevant.

Post more whines about 2NL / conspiracies holding you back from your glory of winning 40 cent pots, and also be sure to work on and perfect that mouse movement / AA hand technique!

All the best.

lets make a homegame on stars with badbeateveryday juiciest cash game ever

He will never have the courage to say his actual user name.

I'm talking about his results for this year. Which are awful. And anyway from what I hear, even someone who was god awful at poker could make serious bank in 2007.


Course I don't play 'full time' you idiot, unlike you I actually have a job rather than just collecting unemployment. No, your 'staking' job isn't a job, as discussed in the other thread. You think I'm trying to pay bills grinding 2nl online? No. If I wanted to play poker for a living I'd move near a casino and crush the unrigged live games.

It's perfectly clear on Pokerstars's website what happens.

Their 'RNG' makes up 50% of the results. 'User input' makes up another 50%. User input isn't random. Thus the whole idea of the fair shuffle is blown apart.

I've also seen no evidence to suggest it takes into account the movements of the other players before determining what cards are dealt. So all you need to do is put your mouse on the lowest DPI settings possible (to make this easier), figure out the correct AA movement, then replicate it and you'll get 50% more AA hands.

Yeah, there'd be me, who is a solid player, up against 5 donks with the Pokerstars boomswitch. And you think I'd lose? No **** sherlock.

oh yeah obviously BBED, how could i forget that you see us as donks who are massively lucky....

guess you figured that out.... well back to shoving ATC and winning every hand

edit: BBEP do you ever fold top pair or better?

They don't give those kind of donks a boomswitch or that'd be too obvious.

Instead they give the donks a boomswitch who are just 'bad' players, not ATC shovers. The kind of guys who can't hand read, can't fold the worst hand, will chase their 2 outs etc. Those kind of guys get the boomswitch.

The sad part is you probably don't even think you're one of those guys. The Pokerstars boomswitch has convinced you you're actually a good player. And you'll never improve.

You'll lose your money to the Pokerstars superusers eventually though - only a matter of time. The only winner ever is Pokerstars.

Not often since if top pair is beat it's 90% just another cooler.

I'll fold on 4 to a flush/4 to a straight board.

If I've got an overpair I'm taking it to showdown though since people bluff all the time on 4 to a flush/straight boards.

what i highlighted just made my day

It is perfectly clear to me, but not to you.

You are either an extremely poor troll or an extremely challenged person.

You make little sense in general. On this subject you really do sound as if you are insane.

No reasonable person reading the website could doubt my interpretation.

How does that possibly not mean that user input accounts for 50% of the shuffle?

So the user-input component of the random generation of a given hand's entire deal -- of everyone's hole cards, and the board cards -- just uses data taken from your computer and not those of everyone else at the table?

Sure...

User input is used as one source of entropy. A piece of physical kit is used as another. The latter is purely random. The former -- the combined input of a full table of players -- is as close as makes no practical difference.

The two sources of entropy, combined via a cryptographic algrothim, are then used as seeds for the software RNG the produces the numbers used for the deal.

The difference is when I don't fold the worst hand it's always just a cooler and I was ahead of villains range.

Donks like you don't ever think about stuff like that though, since whenever you get to showdown Pokerstars has served you up a good hand. It's only solid players who get a worse hand by showdown and get coolered. The only time donks lose big is when they play other donks, since then Pokerstars helps neither of them (as they don't care which donk wins).

2002-2007 one could make considerably more working the very badly thought out bonuses from online casinos than you will make in several lifetimes .




Out of curiosity, what type of job does a sub-human who plays 2NL a lot, and posts paranoid whines full time actually do for a "living?"

Just curious to see what jobs you classify as real and which are not real. I make many times more in my job, though I know you do not like to call it real, but in the end the money is just as real

Also, if you have an actual job, how come you cannot afford to move up to the games you believe you can crush (200NL) that you also say are not rigged. You must not make too much...



Exploit it and make tons.



Guys like you are great - poor, whiny, paranoid and you will never change. Good luck at your "job." Ask for a raise so you can move up to 5NL...

All the best.

I disagree that a full table of players produces inputs that are 'random'. How often are you moving your mouse around before the cards are dealt? I'd wager most players mice are pretty still in the few seconds before the actual deal happens. Not much randomness here.

"Before the cards are dealt" for one particular hand would include the entire time from the previous hand being dealt, so would capture quite a lot of movement within that time.

And playing multiple tables, most players are moving their mouse around quite a bit since the hands aren't dealt perfectly in sync and they'll usually be taking an action on one table while a deal is happening on another.

Oh look, it's Monteroy waving his e-penis around on twoplustwo again.

No one cares how much you make delivering pizzas buddy, this is a poker forum. And emailing 20 guys a month saying 'right, time to split the months profits 50/50 like we agreed' is hardly a job. I could crack that out in 10 minutes, maximum. Just send out a group wide email ffs.

As for how much I make, that's really none of your business. I guarantee I get laid more than you do and that's the true measure of success in life anyway.