But that's not even close to a fair comparison to what you described. What you described was a particular 10 hand sample out of, I suspect, tens or hundreds of thousands of hands that you've seen. Take a deck and deal out the same number of hands, and I expect the chance of that happening in just one ten hand sample would be the same.

you probably didnt even realize, but you just proved his statement.

Dude its just so weird that you get a connection error. You have a straight flush, the guy bets into you and you get disconnected. Just anxiously waiting to get connected again so you can reraise and collect your winnings. But you dont. you get disconnected and are unable to play your hand. After a few minutes you get connected again to the same game and get another straight flush!!!

People are naive. Where there is money, people cheat in many ways. The gov cheat, the coorporations cheat, people cheat everyone cheats. do the cheat dance.

i dont know if you realize but you proved mine.

Dear SquirtsMeatPack,
Your user name creeps me out. I have no idea what a trolling non-sequitar is. I don't want to waste time googling it.
My point is that if an online poker site was located in some weird foreign place and was regulated by some local yocals they just might rig their deal to cheat players. I don't even know if it is possible to rig the RNG, but, if it is, some lowlife poker industry worker will do it to cheat people. That is a fact. And it will be very hard for any riggie to prove it, because they are basically idiots. The reason I bring up the UB super-user scandal/ripoff is because when it was first brought up, the reactions are the exact same as I am reading in this thread. Everyone said it was not possible and laughed at the players who were doing the research. Do I think any site is rigged? No. Do I think it is possible? Maybe. Do I think some lowlife would do it if he could get away with it? YES
Would any people in this thread have the expertise to figure out if it was rigged? No. Anyone cheating in todays poker market will be very careful and not make the mistakes of the previous cheats who got caught, but not punished to any great extent.

Making things up doesn't strengthen your argument.

Your posts illustrate that fact very well unfortunately.

What riggies don't understand is that anything can happen in ten deals. You might get two or three straight flushes, (not very likely, and not that you'd tell us if you did), and it would mean absolutely nothing.

However, if you look at tens of thousands of deals, (as hundreds if not thousands of others have done without finding anything at all untoward), and find that you see straight flushes, (or any other hand, of course), many more times than you should, you have a starting point to check if the deal is rigged. You can tell others, (and when I say "tell" others, I mean you should show your evidence to others), and they can check their own records of their different tens of thousands of deals to see if they agree with the statistical anomaly that you have found. If they do, hey presto, you can collect Monteroy's reward, plus make yourself poker-world famous, instead of appearing to be a clueless idiot.

So often I sit at a table and some guy is getting disconnected, and I would bet he is sat there blaming the poker site just like you. Most connection issues will stem from your ISP or some location between you and wherever your poker sites servers are. So unless you've traced the issue to them either personally or via your ISP then this is a stupid rig theory.

I'm sure you will say you did this, but I won't believe that much more than your 10 hands full of straight flushes, straights and full houses. Oh, they certainly "could" happen, but I'm not prone to believe anything riggies say with no evidence. Too many of you are liars that embellish a story to try and give your rants more weight. All while not realising none of it means anything anyway.

so you are 100% sure there isnt online poker cheating?

There are a ton of bad/criminal/poorly run rooms in this industry, just like there are bad people/businesses in pretty much every industry.

Rooms like Lock Poker/Pitbull Poker etc will simply steal their players money, which is why all of the various complex programming RnG riggie theories are silly, as they would be inefficient and impractical as a means of theft.

I offer a $5,000+ reward to any riggie that can prove a major room uses a rigged RnG, and I do so knowing it will never happen, because if the RnGs were rigged then actual math and stat guys would have discovered it long ago or a programmer would have spilled the beans by now about it. Also, riggies are inherently lazy which is why a few threaten to do research, but in the end none ever do any.

That has nothing to do with whether all rooms can be trusted, because some cannot be trusted, and I have tried many times to get people to consider whether a room run by two dudes in a basement is a good idea despite a big deposit bonus.

Riggies like you actually distract from genuine industry concerns like fraud/collusion/bad operators because riggies obsess on silly RnG theories that they can apparently "see" yet not prove. Riggies focus on spooky ghosts and ignore reality. That is why it is appropriate that silly riggies get contained in threads like this instead of allowing them to clutter genuine industry related threads. There have been quite a few threads about Pokerstars recently that are very negative, and those discussions continue even without a riggie component as many of the complaints (especially about how the new owners communicate changes) are quite valid.

Anyway, be sure to quit all forms of poker.


All the best.

Other riggies lie in a better and more entertaining manner than you lie. Pick up your lying game since you have not even said what room it is on, the type of game played, nor provided any hand histories. Riggies lie all the time, so if you make up a story without any evidence you should not expect anyone to believe you.

If you want to feel better, you can start a thread post about your bad luck in this forum.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...rags-variance/


Give it a try and see how it goes! I say that knowing you will never have the courage to do that, because you know you are just making up random stuff.


Be sure to quit all forms of poker. Stop paying rake to an industry you do not trust.


All the best.

When you come from a Network Background, there is no coincidences when you have a straight flush and you get disconnected when someone bets into you. Even more dis-credible is getting back in the game and getting another straight flush.

Do you think if someone is getting rich hacking they are going to reveal it? ( FOR 5K?)


Its very hard for me to find the historic data at BOL because the software doesnt allow you to record your hand history and review it with HM or any other tracking software.

Moronic reply!

How many people are continuing to get rich at Lock Poker these days? The money there sells for about a penny on the dollar so people can effectively play a higher quality play money game, and a room that used to have thousands of players on now has a couple dozen at a busy time when no freerolls are running.

Hundreds of rooms have shut down. Assuming they are all rigged then at least one of the evil programmers would have come out of the woodwork by now to talk about it.

You lie all the time and you worry about ghosts. That is the riggie way, and again it is why you will never try to post your beliefs in a serious industry thread, because you realize you have no idea what goes on in he real world.

You should continue to post your paranoid beliefs and "disprove a negative" concepts in riggie threads where you can be safe. Just try to be more entertaining when doing so, as one of your riggie duties is to properly entertain shills. Stop being a boring riggie pet.

If you want to see a healthy riggie list let me know and I will post it as that may help you appreciate your culture a bit more. Don't forget to quit all forms of poker.

All the best.

I don't think the rooms have rigged RnGs. If I did and I genuinely believed a site was cheating me or was corrupt/poorly run I would never play there nor back anyone there. That is basic common sense, and it is why I never did any business with Lock Poker over the years. Another recent example is that I would not suggest anyone play at Carbon Poker

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...ounts-1491597/



You believe a room is cheating you, yet you continue to pay to play there. You are the one with that paradox, not me. You are the one who should quit based on your beliefs, so when you continue to play there all that shows is you do not have a lot of faith in your riggie beliefs. You can continue to lie about pretend hands that never happened on the unnamed room you play on and do not trust, but that does not change the dynamics that you should quit playing there right away based on your beliefs.

Hope that helped, and again if you want to see a more complete list of riggies to better understand your culture all you have to do is ask.

All the best.

Like I said before.
I believe you can still play the playa and make a profit. HOWEVER,
I believe the software is manipulated to induce action.
Action is manipulated so games can go quickly and there are more rebuys, I also believe the main reason is so people bust quickly and rebuy another SnG or rebuy on the tourney.

You were making fun of Mind Control earlier, but it is sorta true.

Generally gamblers and poker players tend to have an addictive personality. And there is profit in that. It is a mental game and when you think you were badly beaten you are more likely with an addictive personality to want to rebuy and play again. Maybe people like the challenge and dont care about the money because they know they can win.

If those are your beliefs then simply avoid rebuys or learn to exploit the rig to make a fortune. Since riggies can never easily exploit their obvious rigs your best choice is to not play the games you think are cheating you. You will eventually think all games are cheating you, and at that point you should quit all forms of poker.


That is what I want you to think...


That describes you, not everyone who plays poker. If you are a degen gambler with no control then do the right thing and quit playing. Cash out, uninstall the software, and never do anything with regard to the online gaming industry for the rest of your life. If you continue to degen and lose then that is entirely your fault and problem, and it is also your problem that you never take accountability for your own behavior. None of that really matters to me as long as you are entertaining in this thread, so perhaps go deeper in the mind control aspect, but if you do you need to consider that it is because I told you to do that. Perhaps I am using reverse psychology though and I actually want you not to do that, so if you do not that might be proof of mind control as well...


All the best.

I may be odd here but i tend to keep playing when im winning and not want to continue if I run bad.

if entertainment is all you care about then go watch a movie. 36% of poeple in this thread think is rigged and if u think thats something to make fun of shame on you and the people that pay you.

And likely 99% of this forum that don't think it's rigged haven't bothered to visit, read or vote on a topic they are quite happy with already. Then add in all the idiots that make new accounts when they get banned, or they feel the need to support their own arguments and you still have a thread on rigging where they are losing the poll. lol

That 36% is 0.7% of the members on 2+2. Just enough to provide some mild amusement at times. But don't think the numbers are in any way meaningful.

entertainment is not the only reason post here. sometimes berating idiots lets of steam after taking a few bad beats/running bad.

one of my favorite occupations in poker is to register for a standard speed $2 heads up sit and go then take as long as i possibly can to make every decision whilst having a go at them for taking to long. and I soon forget about how upset I am to be on a downswing I laugh about how funny that is, i dont even care about the $2. another method is to just come here.

its pretty simple to solve
A you should be doing better and the site is rigged
B your missing something have leaks and this is why you are losing.

either scenario calls for three options 1. stop playing your losing money, 2. investigate whats going on and study it. 3. keep doing everything the same way and complain when you get the same results

Monty suggests 1. I disagree though, if a site is rigged that means they are conning me and literally stealing from me. Well I don't like to let people rip off me and take me for a mug.

so what would I do I would gather the evidence study the results and make sure i proved the rig.

that is actually what i did and I went from been a riggie to been a winner.

I can understand these sentiments before poker tracker and holdem manager etc but with all the tracking software you should be able to spot and expose rigs.

This is one of the prime reasons that I defend huds with huds you can prove one way or another if a rig is actually there. its why I do not play seriously on sky poker they do not allow huds so i cannot feel safe.

You have chosen to do option 3 this behavior is often described as a mental illness.

A losing poll that is about 35% in a poker site that promotes poker is bad. That number should be at least 5%.

That's the weirdest thing about all the rigs suggested ITT, they'd only work on rigtards, and not people with more than 2 brain cells to rub together. Your gift with numbers is evident, please continue enlightening us all with your wisdom.

what 34.65% is at least 5%. your using the wrong terms your not good at maths are you?

Ok I will. If you own a poker forum created by poker aficionados and then you have a poll that indicates 35% think is rigged.

That isn't what is going on here, though. Why is that hard for you to understand?