FWIW, he could do this very easily and there is no way you could ever prove he tampered with the database.

He might mean 1 kilogram of horse ****. That would be apt.

...like if someone offers you a big pile of horse sh**. that doesn't mean you have to take. just be like... fu** you, man!


-Henry Rollins

party poker is fixed.. there is no way someone can run this bad.. theyre feeding the bad players pots in order to keep the player pool up. i play 2-5k hands a day for 8 years and never have i run like this before. it is a monumental joke. never have i questioned the legitimacy of online poker until now.. i trust the offshore companies more than i trust our own "legal oversight".. politicians are more criminal than isai scheinberg will ever be.

whats your sn on there?

whats yours

guys i have never posted here i just created a membership i have to let people know, im not sure about the other sites, i hope the big ones like PS are 100% legit and it probably is.

ok so people will hate to hear this but Bovada is 100% not random. I can say 100% because i have played there for probably around 50 hours in my 3 weeks of having an account....

here is the thing, I HAVE WITNESSED 3 ROYAL FLUSHES !!!!!!!!!!!

now you don't have to be a math wiz to understand that is statistically impossible. for someone to log around 50 hours of playing time and witness 3 ROYAL FLUSHES at the table. the first one i got myself, and the other two were other people at the table.

now this could just be a tactic of Bovada to keep new players coming back because a ROYAL FLUSH is crazy and exciting. hopefully this isn't every hand being tinkered with but it does show the power a site has over an RNG

please share this info it needs to be known,
Thanks

You'll get a royal flush about every 30,000 hands. You didn't say how many hands you've played during those 50 hours, so I'm gonna make some assumptions. Let's say you're 4-tabling, but not playing zone. That's what, maybe 250 hands per hour? (just a guess, maybe someone can provide a better number). That's 12500 hands. Let's say that 3 people see the flop on average (probably lower, but the fact that hands that are more likely to contain royal flush cards see the flop probably balance this out). Thus, you've seen 37,500 hands see a flop.

The chance of at least 3 royal flushes in those 37,500 hands is 18% (in any random, unbiased sample, which this obviously is not).

Obviously, I made a lot of assumptions (partly because you didn't provide much info), but 18% is hardly "impossible".

hey first of all your providing false information..

the odds of getting a royal flush are acutally 1/649,740!

do a quick google search before providing blatant false information.

second of all, it wouldn't matter if I was 30 tabling. Any rational person would understand that the odds of seeing a ROYAL FLUSH 3 times in 50 hours of play is statistically impossible...

btw i usually only play 1 or 2 tables of 6 max SNG

also, before this i was totally on the side that believed online poker is 100% legit at least on the bigger sites. actually, i am considering moving to Canada to play on PS after this blatant rig

because i still will give PS the benefit of the doubt and i hope this is just Bovada doing this and not other sites.

Actually GTech which provides casino games to major sites, had a flaw in one or some of their games that was in the house/poker site's favor. Apparently this went on for quite a while until someone discovered it. Even though GTech weren't the ones running these table games, they still indirectly had something to gain by having them intentionally or unintentionally rigged in the site's favor as this would make their software more profitable and therefore more desirable amongst poker/gambling sites. Afaik this issue was fixed but it's not the only time that internet casino games were found to not be fair or operating as they were supposed to.

Bitcoin offers a very interesting solution to all this which is that it enables on-line casinos to offer odds based games that are provably fair. Provably fair means that players can look at the blockchain for proof that the game is paying out as it should. That's pretty freakin' cool if you ask me. I think that this should be the way of the future.

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No it isn't. That is your chance of being dealt a royal flush at 5 card draw.

If you are playing holdem, or particularly PLO, the chances of seeing a royal flush by the river are MUCH higher.

ok so i might be wrong about the odds i just got that from a google search.

but don't be ridiculous, the odds of seeing 3 ROYAL FLUSHES, in under 50 hours of play is still ZERO.

if you want to live in fantasy land go ahead,

i was talking to a dealer at foxwoods who has been dealing there consistently for 15 years and he has only dealt 5 ROYAL FLUSHES.

now your going to tell me that in 50 hours its possible to see 3 ROYAL FLUSHES. sorry i am not that gullible, and hopefully neither are you.

Except, that you know...I did math. If you'd like to tell me exactly how many hands you've played, or contend any of my other assumptions, I'll refine my calculations and do the math again.

While I realize this is my first post, I am a longtime player and lurker on TwoPlusTwo, so you can choose to believe me or not.

2 years ago in a 3 session home game spread over 5 days, I was dealt 3 Royal Flushes.

1 was Hold'em, where I was holding AQ of Hearts.

The other two were Omaha, obviously holding 2 cards.

Just prior to the third royal, in which we had not seen even one in 7 years of playing the home game together, a friend said, "Well I'll bet $50.00 you won't be the next person to get another."

And he paid me $50.00.

Had I not lived it, I doubt I would believe it either.

Beside the math that was already done, this is just a stupid statement.

What do you mean it doesn't matter if you were 30 tabling? The relevant measurement is # of hands played, not number of hours played. If someone played 1,300 hands in 50 hours and someone else played 30,000 hands in 50 hours, do you think the expected number of royal flushes is the same for both of them because they both played for 50 hours? Or do you think the person who played 23X more hands should expect to see a larger number of royal flushes?

On the royal flush question, the original poster didn't say he made 3 royal flushes, he said he made ONE and witnessed two others. The chance to get your own is about 1 every 30K hands. The chance to *see* one at a 9 player table is almost 9 times as much, assuming people stay in as long as they can still hit one.

So his feat of seeing three in 50 hours of play or probably 5000 hands, isn't nearly so rare after all. Certainly this claim is ridiculous:

If the 5000 hands were the only ones he ever played in his life up to that point, the chance he gets one royal in that session is about 15%, or maybe 10% if he plays tight. And the chance he sees two others at a full table, is somewhere in the range of a 15-20% chance (depending on how loose the game is). Combine those two and you have a slightly unusual but still mundane event.

ok guys after your responses and the math, i gladly say i stand corrected.

clearly i made some stupid posts i just was so freaked out by it but like i said i'm no math wiz and i saw the google result saying 1 in 600 thousand.

You now stand head and shoulders above most posters in this thread simply by admitting a mistake.

Yes, getting 7 cards instead of 5 makes a huge difference in the frequency of big poker hands being made.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poker_probability

Wow, I've waited a long time to hear someone in this thread say that in a non-sarcastic manner. Of course you'll now be labeled a shill fake account that only pretended to be convinced the rig you thought you saw didn't exist.

Funny things happen both online and live. I once got knocked out nearly simultaneously (one hand finished about 20 seconds after the other) of two partypoker tournaments holding Aces full of jacks with my pocket aces leading to the river vs pocket jacks in both only to see a Jack on the river for quads in both cases (with two separate opponents holding pocket jacks).

Live, I've seen hands like the one where five handed, quad Kings (made on turn) beat quad nines (made on flop) beat Aces full (made on river) in omaha and another live limit holdem hand where QQ vs 99 vs AA vs 44 saw the board run out AQ944 (funny part was that it was capped all streets and the 44 hand actually stayed in the hand the whole way).

Play enough poker and you'll see it all--it just happens a whole hell of a lot quicker online and you have to make your mind accept this seemingly crazy speed at which these 'insane' things happen.

Wow. But then I guess that's limit for you. I miss that game.

Yeah, just tonight, I had pocket kings allin flop trips on two tables right after each other. Lost them both. One to runner-runner for aces full. The other runner-runner for a flush (or maybe a straight, don't recall for sure)

That's why they call it gambling.

lol

**** off, troll.