Riggies are the new Zed.

Whats the point of a bet that nobody will uncover a cheating scandal in the next year? What is that supposed to prove?

If anything the bet should say that IF a cheating scandal is discovered in the next 12 months, it will be by the members of 2p2.

It doesn't prove anything except that jjjou812 is a jackass. However, I think we already know that.

Just what the thread needs, another newbie low level player living off mommy and dadda who thinks he has all the answers. The Virgin have the relieve his stress somehow, i guess.

I definitely feel my winrate should be higher than it is though. Maybe not 15bb/100 but definitely more than 6bb/100. I beat 2nl for 10bb/100 when I was a new player and knew less about poker than I do today, so I don't understand why at this stake my winrate is almost halved. Yeah the players at 4nl might be slightly better but equally my game has got better since the 2nl days, where I was still doing stuff like calling an all in on the river from a passive fish when I just had TPTK.

I'll admit I'm probably not been screwed as much by 888poker as I initially thought but I'm convinced they're cutting my winrate by a bit.

Also their freeroll tournaments are still totally rigged. Only today I played in one, had 99, other player had A4 all in preflop. Ace hits on the river, like it always does when I'm on the wrong end of it.

So you'd be OK with the mods posting the names of any other 2+2 accounts that have logged in with your IP?

Zed's dead, baby.

Zed's dead.

There is a tremendous spike in variance , beats , coolers after mod presses and emails. I am sure its just a random coincidence thats been happening for months but after black friday this is disgusting to experience. Get some audits for players

1. stop calling the mod
2. stop emailing
3. ????
4. profit


EZ game

OP, you are just being a troll now.

Youve been posting in the riggie thread and the audit thread every day so why start this thread?

Not only that, you made the exact same statement in those threads already.

Joke post/level?

No. He truly believes that sites rig freerolls against him.

Why would they rig free tournaments you might ask?

It most likely has something to do with his poker greatness and the sites recognizing that it was just a matter of time before he owned them.

As soon as he could finally get past NL2, where the sites have been using all of their powers and minions to entrap him like Han Solo in carbonite of course.

Well his username IS "indefatigable." Too bad what s/he is persisting at isn't getting better at poker.

Himself guilty of what he accuses others, just pretends he didn't see my question.

Cowards to the last.

With respect to the immediately above post:

In hand one why are you check/raising the flop? And if you are going to check/raise the flop, why the super tiny check/raise? And as played on the flop, on the turn there is 61.25 big blinds left in stacks and the pot is 71.5 big blinds. Why are you betting 35.75 big blinds instead of shoving?




EDIT:

Well, the immediately above post got deleted. It was a post from lolpotodds with 2 hand histories where he lost with KK as his hole cards.

You do realize this is actually an slam on riggies, right?

Well because I was ensuring I could get stacks in on the river. Wouldn't have made any difference whatsoever though. Checked flop at first to induce bluffs.

Just had another one. Guy with fold to 3bet of 20%. I 3bet him from the SB with AK. Flop is K88. I bet flop. Turn is 2. Jam turn. The guy flips over 88. An absolute joke.

See this is the problem with just looking at all in EV. Aside from the second hand, my all in EV won't have gone up since the 'all in' part came when I was drawing dead. But it's still a **** scenario that you can't do anything about.

From now on KK gets used for setmining only.

Which part is the joke, and what relevance does his fold to 3bet stat have to do with jack ****? No, the problem with just looking at all in EV is ******s like you see that one particular area you're running $10 below EV and hold it up as stone cold proof of rigging, but ignore areas where you're running hotter than Jesus since of course you're supposed to run hot.



Imagine how much more you'd be crushing with top pair if 888 wasn't such a bunch of meany heads.

No the problem with all in EV is it doesnt take into account situations where you get the money in behind but get screwed over by the deck.

I.e. when you 3bet AK, get a K88 board, and there is a 2 on the turn against a guy who doesn't have a strong range when he calls 3bets (that's the relevance of him not folding much). But then he flips over 4 of a ****ing kind. That kind of BS isn't represented by all in EV but it's still total ****ing bull****.

How is that exactly? Ah, it's total ****ing bull**** to lose a hand you were at no point ahead in, gotcha. You're so great you should every single hand you deign to play.

No wonder you defended the K5o hand for so long.

Are you just been deliberately thick?

The point is 888poker deals you hands that are night on impossible to get away from. I.e. you get AK vs a guy who doesn't fold much, so you 3bet for value. Then you get a K on a safe board, so you of course bet for value. Turn is a brick, and there's only a pot sized bet left, so that's a shove.

Then he turns over basically the only thing in the entire deck that could beat you in his range, assuming he's 4betting with KK+. That doesn't count towards all in EV, but it's still a situation where 888poker has screwed you in

Actually I swear to god in most 3bet pots when I flop an overpair or top pair villain always has something better. Every single ****ing time. You can spend 1500 hands steadily grinding up then in the space of 2 or 3 hands 888poker will screw you right back down to where you were at the start of the day.

For instance, my winnings have hit a glass ceiling at $110 at 4nl for the past 6000 hands. That can't just be variance, it's 888poker trying to prevent me moving up.

Yessir, nothing like shoving when you're way ahead or way behind, that way you can get almost every hand you beat to fold while every hand that beats you will call. Sounds like a winning strategy to me.

Not that LPO will actually read anything or take new concepts on board, but just in case...

http://www.thepokerbank.com/strategy...ad-way-behind/

I bolded what I am replying to.

There wouldn't have been any problem getting the stacks in if you had just c-bet the flop.

And checking the flop 3way in a 3bet pot on a mildly drawy T high flop with KK to induce bluffs is kinda silly. Just bet the flop. If for some reason you check, then check/raise much bigger.

The only explanation for you not winning over 6,000 hands is that the site is rigging the game specifically against you to prevent you from playing higher stake games?

Yeah I'm sure you're not betting turn on a K883r board with AK in a 3bet pot, lol. Villain who hardly ever folds to a 3bet absolutely never has KQ or KJ there, no sir.

It wasn't 3 way. It's my experience that if you 3bet pre then check, 90% of the time villain will assume you're giving up and bet themselves.

888poker planned to **** me over anyway however, so any combination of bets wouldn't have made any difference. Just goes to show - when you have KK against Ax, you're flipping at absolute best cos there's about 20 aces in an online deck.