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05-10-2014 , 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by GreenZen
im not sure about stats , thats why i ask , but one thing im sure , the nut miracles against me when it really mattered after 5k tornaments and the ammount of rng psychics that seem to be increasing
is this you?


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05-10-2014 , 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by greenwallet
one occurance that should be investigated is the frequency of AQ dealt 3 levels before the buubble of mtt's. FOr 2 years the frequency of aq dealt vs aj or ak has got to be 20-1 difference. Not sure what the fascination with this rig is but it is there.
Investigate it then, go on.
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05-10-2014 , 06:43 AM
Friend of mine was claiming that he got screwed all day long by the FT-algorithm and asked me to sweat him on Skype. Usually I'd laugh about this, but no joke it was indeed insane as his "streak" seemingly continued. He lost every coinflip as advertised but he also got rivered 4 times in a row with his opponents hitting 2-4 outers to either win or split pretty big pots. Tbh I have never seen something like this before, but it went over two sessions of at least 3 hours each. Small samplesize? Probably, but the guy was close to throwing his mouse into the screen on more than one occasion.

I am not claiming anything to be rigged or broken, but this is just what I saw.
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05-10-2014 , 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Shandrax
Friend of mine was claiming that he got screwed all day long by the FT-algorithm and asked me to sweat him on Skype. Usually I'd laugh about this, but no joke it was indeed insane as his "streak" seemingly continued. He lost every coinflip as advertised but he also got rivered 4 times in a row with his opponents hitting 2-4 outers to either win or split pretty big pots. Tbh I have never seen something like this before, but it went over two sessions of at least 3 hours each. Small samplesize? Probably, but the guy was close to throwing his mouse into the screen on more than one occasion.

I am not claiming anything to be rigged or broken, but this is just what I saw.
Strong friend, strong sample size, strong everything.
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05-10-2014 , 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Shandrax
. Usually I'd laugh about this, but no joke it was indeed insane as his "streak" seemingly continued. He lost every coinflip as advertised but he also got rivered 4 times in a row with his opponents hitting 2-4 outers to either win or split pretty big pots. Tbh I have never seen something like this before, but it went over two sessions of at least 3 hours each. Small samplesize? Probably, but the guy was close to throwing his mouse into the screen on more than one occasion.

I am not claiming anything to be rigged or broken, but this is just what I saw.
You sure don't play much poker if that boring story fascinates you....


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Originally Posted by Shandrax
Friend of mine was claiming that he got screwed all day long by the FT-algorithm
Your friend may be an idiot.
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05-10-2014 , 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Husker
Unless you're running some new advanced beta version of holdem manager that flashes up warnings for you then I can't see how you can claim HM is telling you something is wrong and then claim that you're not sure about stats.
By analyzing some stats and post them here fool


I don´t understand why so many years and i dont see a new born poker room that can have a normal regulation , live inspections , being placed on a normal place with normal laws not that scammers island etc ....
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05-10-2014 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by GreenZen
By analyzing some stats and post them here fool


I don´t understand why so many years and i dont see a new born poker room that can have a normal regulation , live inspections , being placed on a normal place with normal laws not that scammers island etc ....
And I'm the fool
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05-10-2014 , 11:54 AM
yes u are , i could either spent some hours learning or use internet foruns and theire massive knowledge that not only get me faster but more precise awnsers if u know where to go, if u wanna argue with me at least bring a point to the table....
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05-10-2014 , 12:05 PM
Or you could spend that time whining ...
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05-10-2014 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenZen
yes u are , i could either spent some hours learning or use internet foruns and theire massive knowledge that not only get me faster but more precise awnsers if u know where to go, if u wanna argue with me at least bring a point to the table....
I just have a guess and say that one of his points is that you are so far away from "analyzing stats" that one is surprised you spelled it right, and tried to conceal that by pointing out that having an EU license is different from having to obey "normal laws".

And lol @ you saying something like "bring a point to the table" after posting standard KK stats while not realizing that they are, well, completely standard.
It's not like you need to be a theoretical physicist to realize just that.
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05-10-2014 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Husker
Unless you're running some new advanced beta version of holdem manager that flashes up warnings for you then I can't see how you can claim HM is telling you something is wrong and then claim that you're not sure about stats.
Maybe he gets an alert box when he tries to open it telling him that the program isn't installed correctly.
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05-10-2014 , 01:27 PM
ure whinning with no arguments on a matter that is on topic , go to nvg and stop the bul****

Btw ihow can people ignore the fact that many ppl are experiencing some psychic players that look like house players in mtts

Last edited by Mike Haven; 05-10-2014 at 01:36 PM. Reason: 2 posts merged
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05-10-2014 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenZen
Btw ihow can people ignore the fact that many ppl are experiencing some psychic players that look like house players in mtts
The same way any extraordinary claims are dismissed without extraordinary (or in rigtards' case, any) evidence.

The vast majority of rigtards don't even understand simple poker math like calculating equity or determining outs, yet we're to believe you can instinctively detect complex statistics?
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05-10-2014 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Husker
Or you could spend that time whining ...
Or learning a little about the IoM
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05-10-2014 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Shandrax
Friend of mine was claiming that he got screwed all day long by the FT-algorithm and asked me to sweat him on Skype. Usually I'd laugh about this, but no joke it was indeed insane as his "streak" seemingly continued. He lost every coinflip as advertised but he also got rivered 4 times in a row with his opponents hitting 2-4 outers to either win or split pretty big pots. Tbh I have never seen something like this before, but it went over two sessions of at least 3 hours each. Small samplesize? Probably, but the guy was close to throwing his mouse into the screen on more than one occasion.

I am not claiming anything to be rigged or broken, but this is just what I saw.
you want that lasting weeks at a time triggered by events come sweat me. You'll never go near stars again
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05-10-2014 , 03:25 PM
greenwallet is definitely one of the most boring riggies to ever frequent this thread.
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05-10-2014 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by otatop
The same way any extraordinary claims are dismissed without extraordinary (or in rigtards' case, any) evidence.

The vast majority of rigtards don't even understand simple poker math like calculating equity or determining outs, yet we're to believe you can instinctively detect complex statistics?
Come on boys, convert the latest lost soul, guide him over to the strategy thread. You control the strings, you can do it. Give him guidance, buy him a camel, let him on his way. Action!
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05-10-2014 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenZen
ure whinning with no arguments on a matter that is on topic , go to nvg and stop the bul****

Btw ihow can people ignore the fact that many ppl are experiencing some psychic players that look like house players in mtts
Naive suckers have believed in psychics of all kinds for a long time. Their need to believe gets easily exploited, much like riggies. Riggies always believe other riggies when they claim they know someone who can predict the cards (yet have no wealth despite that ability).

Anyway, you seem to be having a lot more fun debating the shills that are much easier to troll, so keep it up in this dull time between herds of riggies, and try your best to improve your skills. After a while when you are up for it you can try to take on me again, as another verbal beatdown at my hands always does you some good in improving your trolling ways.

Remember to try to stay in character better, and good luck in your freerolls.

All the best.
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05-10-2014 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Naive suckers have believed in psychics of all kinds for a long time. Their need to believe gets easily exploited, much like riggies. Riggies always believe other riggies when they claim they know someone who can predict the cards (yet have no wealth despite that ability).

Anyway, you seem to be having a lot more fun debating the shills that are much easier to troll, so keep it up in this dull time between herds of riggies, and try your best to improve your skills. After a while when you are up for it you can try to take on me again, as another verbal beatdown at my hands always does you some good in improving your trolling ways.

Remember to try to stay in character better, and good luck in your freerolls.

All the best.
greenwallet can't even successfully troll the easy marks anymore. He was never especially good at it. Now he just whines, perhaps bemoaning the fact that he has failed as a troll just as thoroughly as he has failed at his other pursuits in life.
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05-10-2014 , 05:06 PM
[QUOTE=TiltedDonkey;43205903]greenwallet can't even successfully troll the easy marks anymore. He was never especially good at it. Now he just whines, perhaps bemoaning the fact that he has failed as a troll just as thoroughly as he has failed at his other pursuits in life.[/QU

Funny how you always proceed Monteroy. FInd your own identity sweety or you'll find yourself looking in the mirror putting on lipstick a little more than you'd like.
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05-10-2014 , 05:56 PM
Heads up on Pjokerstars today dealt jj-kk 7 times. 6/7 ace on flop. 4/7 with jj-qq ak on flop. The dealings definitley feel manipulated.
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05-10-2014 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TiltedDonkey
greenwallet can't even successfully troll the easy marks anymore. He was never especially good at it. Now he just whines, perhaps bemoaning the fact that he has failed as a troll just as thoroughly as he has failed at his other pursuits in life.
He was responding to GreenZen, not greenwallet, FWIW. But if there was some confusion, there won't be any longer.

Ahh, first hashy and then greenwallet - the Zoo became a slightly better place over the last half hour.

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Originally Posted by greenwallet
Funny how you always proceed Monteroy.
I know you'll still be back reading this thread as a guest or under some other new account that will be banned soon thereafter, so I'll just let you know that I think the word you might have been trying to spell was "precede", but not only can you not spell it, it doesn't mean what you think it means. When you come after someone else, you follow them.

You're welcome.
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05-10-2014 , 06:43 PM
I will toss in a post so that you proceed me. That will make that guy happy (which gimmick is he) as he is banned and creating another gimmick that will be banned.

One of these guys needs to recruit some fresh genuine riggies.
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05-10-2014 , 09:00 PM
Today made 4 final tables therefore may not be rigged or other option maybe 2+2 is rigged?

Universe joke rig maybe ultimate truth who knows , somedays is joke ,

Irl i have seen and felt the power of larma so who knows whats messing with quantum rngs? no4t anyone here probably and that i can instinctively detect

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05-10-2014 , 10:17 PM
GreenZen is a Stars house player, confirmed.
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