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09-29-2010 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by otatop
Downswinging again, Yarbles?


yup ****ing poker is rigged man.... sucks so ****ing much.. i spend 10 hours in coop for nothing pennies whens ome clown with 10 tourneys played is scooping 6 figs... huafd
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09-29-2010 , 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Yarbles


yup ****ing poker is rigged man.... sucks so ****ing much.. i spend 10 hours in coop for nothing pennies whens ome clown with 10 tourneys played is scooping 6 figs... huafd
Just curious as to how the graph relates to your comments? That graph shows no six figure scoop and is clearly for way more than 10 tourneys.




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Last edited by obviously.bogus; 09-30-2010 at 12:00 AM. Reason: I know .... head ... brick wall ... bash bash bash ...
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09-30-2010 , 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by obviously.bogus
Just curious as to how the graph relates to your comments? That graph shows no six figure scoop and is clearly for way more than 10 tourneys.




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exactly what im saying is im grinding out 3 dollar rebuys and 5 dollar rebuys and putting in heaps of volume to make some pennies the past 3 months why some noob that has put no work in luckboxes 2.2 million and 400k and 600k meanwhile i am ions of light beams ahead.... its freaking rigged man im telling u its rigged... and one day you will all see that the company paying you to do this forum work was pulling the wolf skin over your head.
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09-30-2010 , 03:25 AM
lol
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09-30-2010 , 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Yarbles
exactly what im saying is im grinding out 3 dollar rebuys and 5 dollar rebuys and putting in heaps of volume to make some pennies the past 3 months why some noob that has put no work in luckboxes 2.2 million and 400k and 600k meanwhile i am ions of light beams ahead.... its freaking rigged man im telling u its rigged... and one day you will all see that the company paying you to do this forum work was pulling the wolf skin over your head.
You are [ions of] light beams behind, not ahead. Anyone who "grinds" 3 and 5 dollar REBUYS ffs, is deluding themselves if they think that's the way to get rich.

Just sayin. Nobody's ever got rich that way. Or have they?
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09-30-2010 , 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by LVGambler
You are [ions of] light beams behind, not ahead. Anyone who "grinds" 3 and 5 dollar REBUYS ffs, is deluding themselves if they think that's the way to get rich.

Just sayin. Nobody's ever got rich that way. Or have they?
im using the winnings from there to fund my sunday majors..... but the ****** with 10 mtts played bink sunday majors...and most likely just a bot for the site

Last edited by Markusgc; 09-30-2010 at 08:16 AM. Reason: inappropriate term
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09-30-2010 , 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by LVGambler
You are [ions of] light beams behind, not ahead. Anyone who "grinds" 3 and 5 dollar REBUYS ffs, is deluding themselves if they think that's the way to get rich.

Just sayin. Nobody's ever got rich that way. Or have they?
Dear LV Gamber,

Montorious Montenegro Monteroy got rich playing $3 and $5 rebuys. He then took his winnings and built a huge training center on Tribal land up in Canada to teach his method of working around the rig to anyone who needed special card steering and card blocking powers. You too can get rich quick by paying him his $500 an hour fee.

Sincerely,
DonkoTheClown
Monteroys Agent
Special Kind of Genius
www.monteroysagent.com
donko@donkodonkodonko.special
888-eat-dirt

Last edited by DonkoTheClown; 09-30-2010 at 09:05 PM. Reason: Because I work in parts and pieces...
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09-30-2010 , 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Yarbles
im using the winnings from there to fund my sunday majors..... but the ****** with 10 mtts played bink sunday majors...and most likely just a bot for the site
It would be really interesting to see how many accounts show up and win some big money and disappear. What a scam that would be. Does anyone have a list of these started?
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09-30-2010 , 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkoTheClown
Dear LV Gamber,

Montorious Montenegro Monteroy got rich playing $3 and $5 rebuys. He then took his winnings and built a huge training center on Tribal land up in Canada to teach his method of working around the rig to anyone who needed special card steering and card blocking powers. You too can get rich quick by paying him his $500 an hour fee.

Sincerely,
DonkoTheClown
Monteroys Agent
Special Kind of Genius
www.monteroysagent.com
donko@donkodonkodonko.special
888-eat-dirt
Monteroy is special. Everyone knows that. So he doesn't count. Neither does durrrr.
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10-01-2010 , 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by DonkoTheClown
It would be really interesting to see how many accounts show up and win some big money and disappear. What a scam that would be. Does anyone have a list of these started?
lol
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10-01-2010 , 06:20 AM
interesting that would be,
anyone up for looking?
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10-01-2010 , 04:29 PM
I would like to know what people think honestly of pokerstars!

I play lots of sng and im baffled that im always(not always but fairly often to hands im dominating) losing my all ins with the better hand, i dont have any stats but im aware that after flop if u have better pair then the other and he pushes and u call ur a 92% favorite it seems that on stars that the odds are way off im losing them i would say prob 20 30% of the time does anyone feel the same ...should i continue hacking it out there?

Please answer honestly dont want bs im just concerned that no matter how good my play is im just not profiting fully!!(im a winnig player on stars) and i like stars
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10-01-2010 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkoTheClown
It would be really interesting to see how many accounts show up and win some big money and disappear. What a scam that would be. Does anyone have a list of these started?
In before "Jerry Yang" and "Jamie Gold"...
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10-01-2010 , 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by trelos
it seems that on stars that the odds are way off im losing them i would say prob 20 30% of the time
I would say it's prob nowhere near that, and it seems it's time for you to find out for sure.
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10-01-2010 , 07:28 PM
don't you mean JOKERSTARS AMIRITE?
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10-01-2010 , 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by trelos
Please answer honestly dont want bs im just concerned that no matter how good my play is im just not profiting fully!!(im a winnig player on stars) and i like stars
I think your answer depends on what you want out of poker. The good thing about stars is that there are lots of games going so you can get a lot of experience quickly. I don't know what stakes you play so I will presume that because you are a first time poster that plays micro stakes sngs.

Stars does have some bad points for the micro player. Whatever you do don't play the 1.20 single table SNG tournaments on stars. They are a rake rip off for a micro stakes player. Yes you may be able to win because the average standard is so poor (even this is debateable), but your best choice here is to send them an email asking them to reduce the rake to 5%.

cheers,
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10-01-2010 , 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by trelos
I would like to know what people think honestly of pokerstars!

I play lots of sng and im baffled that im always(not always but fairly often to hands im dominating) losing my all ins with the better hand, i dont have any stats but im aware that after flop if u have better pair then the other and he pushes and u call ur a 92% favorite it seems that on stars that the odds are way off im losing them i would say prob 20 30% of the time does anyone feel the same ...should i continue hacking it out there?

Please answer honestly dont want bs im just concerned that no matter how good my play is im just not profiting fully!!(im a winnig player on stars) and i like stars
A better pair? You mean like...

Board: 7s Qc Jd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 79.798% 79.80% 00.00% 790 0.00 { KhQs }
Hand 1: 20.202% 20.20% 00.00% 200 0.00 { AdJh }

Or if you want preflop...

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 81.986% 81.77% 00.22% 50403348 134964.00 { JJ }
Hand 1: 18.014% 17.80% 00.22% 10969668 134964.00 { TT }

Seems to me you're losing just the right % of the time
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10-02-2010 , 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by trelos
I would like to know what people think honestly of pokerstars!

I play lots of sng and im baffled that im always(not always but fairly often to hands im dominating) losing my all ins with the better hand, i dont have any stats but im aware that after flop if u have better pair then the other and he pushes and u call ur a 92% favorite it seems that on stars that the odds are way off im losing them i would say prob 20 30% of the time does anyone feel the same ...should i continue hacking it out there?

Please answer honestly dont want bs im just concerned that no matter how good my play is im just not profiting fully!!(im a winnig player on stars) and i like stars
You have to ask yourself if you trust playing sites with no regulation. It's as simple as that. Everyone wants to tell you they are legit but have no way of proving it. Just keep barking out to post your HH. Well a bill will be signed soon and sites will have to be in the US where real regulation will inspect them regularly. Then you won't be able to question it anymore.
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10-02-2010 , 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by banonlinepoker
Well a bill will be signed soon and sites will have to be in the US where real regulation will inspect them regularly.
Just curious. How long, in days/months/years would you define the "soon" in which such a bill will be signed, and how much would you be willing to bet, at even money on it happening within that time frame?



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Last edited by obviously.bogus; 10-02-2010 at 02:02 AM. Reason: Not that I have any money to take such bets, but just wondering how much money you'd put where you mouth is.
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10-02-2010 , 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by obviously.bogus
Just curious. How long, in days/months/years would you define the "soon" in which such a bill will be signed, and how much would you be willing to bet, at even money on it happening within that time frame?



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Watch CSPAN yourself, what are you another tax dodge? You think Barney Frank is just going to shelve the bill? It's coming as much as you want to deny it.
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10-02-2010 , 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by banonlinepoker
You have to ask yourself if you trust playing sites with no regulation. It's as simple as that. Everyone wants to tell you they are legit but have no way of proving it. Just keep barking out to post your HH. Well a bill will be signed soon and sites will have to be in the US where real regulation will inspect them regularly. Then you won't be able to question it anymore.
wrong
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10-02-2010 , 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by banonlinepoker
You have to ask yourself if you trust playing sites with no regulation. It's as simple as that. Everyone wants to tell you they are legit but have no way of proving it. Just keep barking out to post your HH. Well a bill will be signed soon and sites will have to be in the US where real regulation will inspect them regularly. Then you won't be able to question it anymore.
As always you are ranting on about trust and regulation when it has no relevance to the actual question.

If you are getting ripped off on your all ins it is incredibly easy for you to prove it. Given your hatred of Stars why dont you just do it or shut up.

The only logical conclusion is that you are a liar.
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10-02-2010 , 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by banonlinepoker
Watch CSPAN yourself, what are you another tax dodge? You think Barney Frank is just going to shelve the bill? It's coming as much as you want to deny it.
House Finance chairman ‘not optimistic’ about online gambling bill moving

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“I’m not optimistic,” Frank told The Hill.
I want the Barney Frank bill passed, but I don't see it being passed "soon" and if the GOP takes over the House, that could delay "soon" for at least another two years.

You dodged the question ... how long, in days/months/years, do you think "soon" is within which a bill will be signed?
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10-02-2010 , 02:35 PM
Soon=within 10 years lol We are speakin US govt here
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10-02-2010 , 04:53 PM
I think i am going crazy. It seems as though I get AA KK QQ the hand after i lose 90%+ of my stack noticeably more often than I should. Does anyone else have this phenomenon happen to them? It feels like the poker software is trying to give me premium hands when I have little to no chips. Confirm that I am going crazy...
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