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Old 02-12-2009, 11:30 PM   #851
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Re: Is Full Tilt rigged?

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Negative. Like I said I lost a 500 dollar bank roll in less then 3 days. (I started with a ten cent rebuy mind you! 0.23 cent to 500 dollars) I could load this whole thread up with the hand histories. As mentioned by people here before it was the timing of all of them. At break, right near the bubble. I can show about 25 more hands if anybody would like. Perhaps the str8 flush that beat my ace hi flush? Or the small stack 6 2 moving all in on my bb vs k k and floping a set, only to have runner cards come giving him a straight?
How could you lose a $500 bankroll in three days without horrible bankroll management.

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Old 02-12-2009, 11:47 PM   #852
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you need new material, why is it you always insult those who dont agree with you ?
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Old 02-13-2009, 04:36 AM   #853
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you need new material, why is it you always insult those who dont agree with you ?
He doesn't always insult those who dont agree with him.

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Old 02-13-2009, 08:17 AM   #854
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He doesn't always insult those who dont agree with him.

Just the muppets.
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edit: funny thing about the post he quoted from July, is that I actually responded with rational discussion in it, in response to scorer, one of the biggest rigtard trolls this site has ever seen. After a while there's just nothing more you can say. You give rational discussion and they reply with arguments that have more holes in it than swiss cheese, if it can even be read or understood at all.

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Old 02-19-2009, 08:38 AM   #855
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I have mentioned it twice now, but none seems to care: before the update, 40cent rake were 1 vip point, now its 50cent. Before the update, there was a BBJ so I was ok with the higher rake due to euro tables and no lower cap or something. but now, they removed the BBJ and have not lowered the rake...............
True, but the funds that is released from the BBJ will be used for large promotions - 2 coming up next month so stay tuned :-)

There is also a Sit n Go leaderboard launched now with monthly prizes
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Old 02-19-2009, 08:50 AM   #856
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NoIQ has already destroyed the network with the rakerace, the midstakes games were a nitfest before the merger, but now they are even worse and I can't think of a "good" promotion besides a network wide rakerace like ipoker is running.

I don't care about any donkament leaderboards, I'm a cashgame player.
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Old 02-19-2009, 09:13 PM   #857
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people that think poker is rigged do not think how dumb it would be

people have hand history´s and if they can proove with math that a site does not deal random cards or flops.... it would made public and every player would leave the site

rake and tournament fees are high enough to make millions ...

25 billon hands on ps? count that rake pls !
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Old 02-20-2009, 04:43 AM   #858
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Re: The Outside Looking In? Online Poker

what about running 0.4% in all in equity for ( AK+) over 40k hands, that is a probability of about 1 out of 10 MIO hands. I think people who go through this, have a right to complain about riggedness. And this is not that of an uncommon phenomenon when you think there are 250k people online only at Stars.
It hits about every 1000 player!!
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Old 02-20-2009, 04:48 AM   #859
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people have hand history´s and if they can proove with math that a site does not deal random cards or flops.... it would made public and every player would leave the site
If a site can openly cheat their customers and still carry on then a site that may have a slight "unrandomness" (I don't think that's a real word) about it's RNG would do just fine IMHO. I regret to say.
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Old 02-20-2009, 05:25 AM   #860
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what about running 0.4% in all in equity for ( AK+) over 40k hands, that is a probability of about 1 out of 10 MIO hands. I think people who go through this, have a right to complain about riggedness. And this is not that of an uncommon phenomenon when you think there are 250k people online only at Stars.
It hits about every 1000 player!!
Wait, is it one in 10,000,000 or one in 250?
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Old 02-20-2009, 05:27 AM   #861
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Wait, is it one in 10,000,000 or one in 250?
ya right 250:1. For a sample over 40k hands it happens once out of 10.MIO times
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Old 02-20-2009, 05:54 AM   #862
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Re: The Outside Looking In? Online Poker

if you are a believer that online poker is rigged. WHY THE HELL ARE YOU PLAYING???!!! Get the hell out of the forum, the poker community and let us peons go on about our daily, rigged poker lives. Maybe we like it that way. Maybe we're doing it on purpose to ONLY you to make you paranoid and come up with conspracies to tell to the world so you only end up in a psych ward when you find out that even if their is cheating you can't do anything about it because they have more money, power and better lawyers than you do. They will eat you alive.

In conclusion, give up on the Online Poker is Rigged threads and wasiting everyones times. It's been heard and discussed over and over and over again in this forum and every other poker (and maybe non-poker) forum out there.
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Old 02-20-2009, 05:56 AM   #863
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Excuse all the grammatical errors, I'm tired as hell.
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Old 02-20-2009, 10:53 AM   #864
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rigged is the wrong word....the RNG is flawed....why so many sites with the same software....u dont go into the bellagio cardroom and get cards that were shuffled at wynn or the vic in london...its about time there was a live shuffle and not this rng rubbish that is fantastic at dealing out hands that leave you looking at the gods so often (hands involved in all ins and deep into torneys relatively big pots) it makes a mockery of the odds....people talk about standard deviation...thay should call it regular deviation in online poker because it happens all the time....i have never been beaten in relatively big pots so many times when 2-1 3-1 4-1 and 6-1 favorite ...it happens too much and is a farce...the sooner a live shuffle the better but that would mean the online sites wouldnt make as much money....its bad enough in a showdown when u get a split second to look at oppenents hands.....just like the f......g greedy bankers grab grab grab...at least the original paradise poker site gave enough time for players to see showdown hands but now anymore its all greed now.
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Old 02-20-2009, 11:05 AM   #865
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rigged is the wrong word....the RNG is flawed....why so many sites with the same software....u dont go into the bellagio cardroom and get cards that were shuffled at wynn or the vic in london...its about time there was a live shuffle and not this rng rubbish that is fantastic at dealing out hands that leave you looking at the gods so often (hands involved in all ins and deep into torneys relatively big pots) it makes a mockery of the odds....people talk about standard deviation...thay should call it regular deviation in online poker because it happens all the time....i have never been beaten in relatively big pots so many times when 2-1 3-1 4-1 and 6-1 favorite ...it happens too much and is a farce...the sooner a live shuffle the better but that would mean the online sites wouldnt make as much money....its bad enough in a showdown when u get a split second to look at oppenents hands.....just like the f......g greedy bankers grab grab grab...at least the original paradise poker site gave enough time for players to see showdown hands but now anymore its all greed now.
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Old 02-20-2009, 11:06 AM   #866
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Hey stig - you might be a wicked driver but you are really dumb.
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Old 02-20-2009, 11:19 AM   #867
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NoIQ has already destroyed the network with the rakerace, the midstakes games were a nitfest before the merger, but now they are even worse and I can't think of a "good" promotion besides a network wide rakerace like ipoker is running.

I don't care about any donkament leaderboards, I'm a cashgame player.
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What is the rakerace at noIQ worth anyway? Is it worth switching skins for?
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Old 02-20-2009, 11:21 AM   #868
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rigged is the wrong word....the RNG is flawed....why so many sites with the same software....u dont go into the bellagio cardroom and get cards that were shuffled at wynn or the vic in london...its about time there was a live shuffle and not this rng rubbish that is fantastic at dealing out hands that leave you looking at the gods so often (hands involved in all ins and deep into torneys relatively big pots) it makes a mockery of the odds....people talk about standard deviation...thay should call it regular deviation in online poker because it happens all the time....i have never been beaten in relatively big pots so many times when 2-1 3-1 4-1 and 6-1 favorite ...it happens too much and is a farce...the sooner a live shuffle the better but that would mean the online sites wouldnt make as much money....its bad enough in a showdown when u get a split second to look at oppenents hands.....just like the f......g greedy bankers grab grab grab...at least the original paradise poker site gave enough time for players to see showdown hands but now anymore its all greed now.

Imagine some random old guy drunk at a bar slurring this in one breath and it sort of makes sense in a way, at least in terms of the type of person that would say this. Add a dagnabit with a smacking of his big hat on the table if you want to go with the old west cowboy twist
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Old 02-20-2009, 12:15 PM   #869
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I have grinded poker for 4 years, last 2 years professionally. Ive never written a post about the rigg. Ive laughed at people doing it. After trying B2B network I am a new bitter person. There is a real rigg at B2B, there is no other possibility of what I have seen during my last 30 000 hands. It is not variance, it is something else. For example I lost to 5 1outers, 10 2outers, and 4 4outers in a 5 hour session.

Its real people. Dont play at B2B.

Flame away.
rng is flawed in all online poker ba happy day when live shuffle technology arrives..surely somebody out there could make loadsamoney with liveshuffle online poker site?
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Old 02-20-2009, 12:36 PM   #870
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I once had Quads, a Straight Flush and a Royal Flush,
all in the same tournament, all on the same table, true story
What kind of hacks did you use?
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:11 PM   #871
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The more fish a network have the more badbeat you get.

A bad player will not play normal and can beet a good player any day.
However the good player will win in the end.

Entraction has huge amounts of fishes.

Badbeat:
No sites in the world like their players to have badbeats, they make money from the rake. Not if their players bust.
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Old 02-21-2009, 05:42 AM   #872
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The more fish a network have the more badbeat you get.

A bad player will not play normal and can beet a good player any day.
However the good player will win in the end.

Entraction has huge amounts of fishes.

Badbeat:
No sites in the world like their players to have badbeats, they make money from the rake. Not if their players bust.
By definition, a bad beat relates to where a player gets it in good and gets drawn out on, you would assume therefore that the better player was the one who got it in good. It is also likely that the good player would reload as he will be a winner presumably? Therefore him busting is none too likely, he will do what he does all the time, have identified the fish and will follow him to get his money back and more.

I'm not sure what the point of your post is? You have a lot of fish, or it's good you don't have fish because they dish out bad beats? Whichever it is, you are wrong on both points, you don't actually have many fish, and you do want fish on there.
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Old 02-21-2009, 07:07 AM   #873
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The more fish a network have the more badbeat you get.

A bad player will not play normal and can beet a good player any day.
However the good player will win in the end.

Entraction has huge amounts of fishes.

Badbeat:
No sites in the world like their players to have badbeats, they make money from the rake. Not if their players bust.

Please show me the fish on 200NL besides the occasional 20bb morons who survive for 5 minutes and never come back
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Old 02-21-2009, 07:30 AM   #874
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he means reg tagfish
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Old 02-21-2009, 08:32 AM   #875
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Stealing alldaylong from 13/11 isnt that much fun
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