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07-08-2010 , 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by otatop

My God, you probably already had that money spent. Nobody ever finishes out of the money when they're in second place with 100 left.
uhh no i went out like 30 something but the point is another top 5 percent finish without a final table.... just wondering whats standard for top 5 percent finishes and not final tabling just getting coolered some how some way to bust before... just wondering of like lets say every 10 times u go deep top 5 percent of 1k+ runner tourneys hell even say top 2.5 percent how many times are you expected to final table. and no i never expect any finish... i understand i can bust any time of the tourney.. regardless of chip stacks... but it just seems to happen 100 percent of the time for me .
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07-08-2010 , 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Username^^
that proofs your theory yarbles , but in case he would win that hand, he would like never ever mention it or even remember that it occured untill next time hes ai A2 vs A9 and he loooooooooses.

That doesn't change my opinion about full tilt being rigged what so ever.
pretty sure your not real either.
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07-08-2010 , 08:56 PM
guys i called a 350 dollar shove on a flop of 783 after committing 150 in preflop in a 2/5 nl game against someone i knew would raise any sc and shove any flop cause he had a big stack and loves blowing u off hands anyway flop was 783 and i had qj with no draws and the guy just shoves on my donk lead and i tank called with the best hand he had 64 ldo
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07-08-2010 , 08:57 PM
i am a shill and i represent entraction netwrok skin, so i will be agreeing with you and redirecting action to my skin. Also i am prety bored atm and i think it's entertaining to discuss issues like : SMCB with inteligent people.
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07-08-2010 , 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Yarbles
uhh no i went out like 30 something but the point is another top 5 percent finish without a final table.... just wondering whats standard for top 5 percent finishes and not final tabling just getting coolered some how some way to bust before... just wondering of like lets say every 10 times u go deep top 5 percent of 1k+ runner tourneys hell even say top 2.5 percent how many times are you expected to final table. and no i never expect any finish... i understand i can bust any time of the tourney.. regardless of chip stacks... but it just seems to happen 100 percent of the time for me .
You could probably read through pokernews for the WSOP and figure this out for ~55 tournaments.

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Originally Posted by Yarbles
guys i called a 350 dollar shove on a flop of 783 after committing 150 in preflop in a 2/5 nl game against someone i knew would raise any sc and shove any flop cause he had a big stack and loves blowing u off hands anyway flop was 783 and i had qj with no draws and the guy just shoves on my donk lead and i tank called with the best hand he had 64 ldo
Cool story, bro.
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07-08-2010 , 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Yarbles
guys i called a 350 dollar shove on a flop of 783 after committing 150 in preflop in a 2/5 nl game against someone i knew would raise any sc and shove any flop cause he had a big stack and loves blowing u off hands anyway flop was 783 and i had qj with no draws and the guy just shoves on my donk lead and i tank called with the best hand he had 64 ldo
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07-08-2010 , 09:13 PM
All "shills" should organize and take a break from this thread for a set period of time, like a week to see how it degenerates. I suspect the last little bit (aside from otatop and Arouet) would be pretty indicative, in this case a degen posting a blog, an attention whore responding to get attention, and a random riggie whining about a bad beat, and a gimmick fake riggie complimenting a degen (which the degen took seriously to heart).

Imagine it after a full week of no shills. Would be magical.

I propose a "no shill" week starting Monday July 12th and running until the 19th.

If other "shills" agree just quote and agree and maybe it will catch on. Human behavior is very easy to predict and if this thread is allowed to run for a week "shill" free it will really up the entertainment value quite a bit.
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07-08-2010 , 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
All "shills" should organize and take a break from this thread for a set period of time, like a week to see how it degenerates. I suspect the last little bit (aside from otatop and Arouet) would be pretty indicative, in this case a degen posting a blog, an attention whore responding to get attention, and a random riggie whining about a bad beat, and a gimmick fake riggie complimenting a degen (which the degen took seriously to heart).

Imagine it after a full week of no shills. Would be magical.

I propose a "no shill" week starting Monday July 12th and running until the 19th.

If other "shills" agree just quote and agree and maybe it will catch on. Human behavior is very easy to predict and if this thread is allowed to run for a week "shill" free it will really up the entertainment value quite a bit.
I suggested this a couple weeks ago (well, I suggested a month). No-one was interested. I'm in though.
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07-08-2010 , 09:35 PM
The 19 Lizard Person Poker Rigging Council (NLPPRC for short) have agreed to give me PTO, starting now.

I'll be back for duty around the 19th.
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07-08-2010 , 09:37 PM
Yarbles, which site(s) do you play on?
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07-08-2010 , 09:37 PM
lol, now everyone will know who the shills are imo, you shoulda done this by pm'ing and this thread will die most likelly, atleast some new blood shows up here
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07-08-2010 , 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
All "shills" should organize and take a break from this thread for a set period of time, like a week to see how it degenerates. I suspect the last little bit (aside from otatop and Arouet) would be pretty indicative, in this case a degen posting a blog, an attention whore responding to get attention, and a random riggie whining about a bad beat, and a gimmick fake riggie complimenting a degen (which the degen took seriously to heart).

Imagine it after a full week of no shills. Would be magical.

I propose a "no shill" week starting Monday July 12th and running until the 19th.

If other "shills" agree just quote and agree and maybe it will catch on. Human behavior is very easy to predict and if this thread is allowed to run for a week "shill" free it will really up the entertainment value quite a bit.
I was fired from my shill job..

But I'm in!

See you guys on the 2Oth! Takin an early out!

Spoiler:
I have an FMLA ya know
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07-08-2010 , 10:43 PM
i have a serious question... how much do shills make? and do you have to believe in your product? like im sure tiger woods could give a **** about nike right... and for all we know he might think the product is rigged because of all the little sweat shops... but hey we are all in it for the dollars... so where can i sign up?
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07-08-2010 , 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by WallaceWins
Yes, this is exactly what Full Tilt wants you to do ... they like to spread the money around because they make Rake.

Its a computer program Guys and Gals - I play enough on line to see the patterns here. Its not really random as you think.

Of course there are Idiots that play live like last night a 72 yr old man called my "nit self" all in with A2 vs my A9s (i had 3 big blinds left) and rivered a 2 to knock me out in 27th..

7 hands before he called my button KQs all in with 910 off and rivered a 9.

Sometime you just "Run Bad" against very bad players I guess...
wrong
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07-08-2010 , 11:47 PM
what do you call a person that pms you looking for a stake after seeomg your posts in a rigged site claiming how you are down so much money and cant win... and other aholes posting detailed buy in amounts of the tourneys i play..i have no clue what you call this person but its pretty ****ing amazing if you ask me. not sure who is worse the guy posting details about me or the beggar begging for stakes.

thanks monteroy for putting my ****ing business out there so now i can get harassed for stakes because of the stakes i play. thanks monteroy huf*****

Last edited by Yarbles; 07-09-2010 at 12:11 AM.
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07-09-2010 , 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Yarbles
what do you call a person that pms you looking for a stake after seeomg your posts in a rigged site claiming how you are down so much money and cant win... and other aholes posting detailed buy in amounts of the tourneys i play..i have no clue what you call this person but its pretty ****ing amazing if you ask me. not sure who is worse the guy posting details about me or the beggar begging for stakes.

thanks monteroy for putting my ****ing business out there so now i can get harassed for stakes because of the stakes i play. thanks monteroy huf*****
LoL, is that so Yarbles? Don't blame us b/c you lost 3 mirron and can't accept self responsibility. People like you have to blame somebody or something other than yourself. LoL for calling me a beggar. You initiated a private conversation with an insult, towards me, out of nowhere, via PM.....Beg a donkey that's down 3 mill huh?

Sounds like somebody is on suicide watch...Should I google the hotline number for you. I mean you only lost 3 million dollars, you could of retired on that for ten years at a fixed income of 300k...but it's Monteroy's and Wiki's fault you lose, not your own sloppy play.
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07-09-2010 , 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by tk1133
LoL, is that so Yarbles? Don't blame us b/c you lost 3 mirron and can't accept self responsibility. People like you have to blame somebody or something other than yourself. LoL for calling me a beggar.

Sounds like somebody is on suicide watch...Should I google the hotline.
next time my advice is to not just come right out and ask for a stake maybe first try to befriend and maybe talk with them a little before u set the line...

think about when your fishing and you feel the nibbling on the pole... u know if you set it too quick u r gonna lose your fish... u have to let the fish get comfortable that its not a tarp then when the fish feels all comfortable bam set that baby and yank.... fish on...

btw why u think i was talking about you? i said somebody... never mentioned your name... oh and just fyi i did not insult you ... you asked ME what sites i play on i said wug? if you follow poker talk and discuss hands on a regular basis you would know that means what u got? meaning wats up.. why u asking me what sites i play on... what is your reasoning... and then i guess u told me your reasoning i thought perhaps to discuss poker strategy... but nope you are looking for someone to stake you....

sorry bud you are asking the wrong person and looking in the wrong thread... i would try the bbv thread and search for brags.... def not beats... more luck getting someone who has been running good to stake you then someone like me that just final table bubbles everything.

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I mean you only lost 3 million dollars, you could of retired on that for ten years at a fixed income of 300k...but it's Monteroy's and Wiki's fault you lose, not your own sloppy play.
and lol cant believe u still think i lost 3,000,000 dollars from the screen shot i posted... i mean i thought you were leveling before but i guess not... ok i will fill you in... the 3,000,000 in red was tournament chips..... not actual dollars... ding ding ding... if that wasnt clear enought tournament dollars are not actual real money value.. they are used in place of a fixed buy in amount... and winning all the tournament chips will usually place u in 1st place with about 20 percent of the prize pool.

Last edited by Yarbles; 07-09-2010 at 12:21 AM.
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07-09-2010 , 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Yarbles
next time my advice is to not just come right out and ask for a stake maybe first try to befriend and maybe talk with them a little before u set the line...

think about when your fishing and you feel the nibbling on the pole... u know if you set it too quick u r gonna lose your fish... u have to let the fish get comfortable that its not a tarp then when the fish feels all comfortable bam set that baby and yank.... fish on...

btw why u think i was talking about you? i said somebody... never mentioned your name... oh and just fyi i did not insult you ... you asked ME what sites i play on i said wug? if you follow poker talk and discuss hands on a regular basis you would know that means what u got? meaning wats up.. why u asking me what sites i play on... what is your reasoning... and then i guess u told me your reasoning i thought perhaps to discuss poker strategy... but nope you are looking for someone to stake you....

sorry bud you are asking the wrong person and looking in the wrong thread... i would try the bbv thread and search for brags.... def not beats... more luck getting someone who has been running good to stake you then someone like me that just final table bubbles everything.

and lol cant believe u still think i lost 3,000,000 dollars from the screen shot i posted... i mean i thought you were leveling before but i guess not... ok i will fill you in... the 3,000,000 in red was tournament chips..... not actual dollars... ding ding ding...

You lying mother ****er. You PM'd me out of nowhere with quote: "WUG."

Right after I created a staking thread. I wrote you back, "What does WUG mean?"

You write back only ask me for my AIM. I assume your inquiring about my stake. I ask you if this is the case. Now here you are.

Again you PM'd me first w/ your illiterate jibberish. I think this sets the tone for your posts in this thread and your integrity/credibility is now suspect.
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07-09-2010 , 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by tk1133
You lying mother ****er. You PM'd me out of nowhere with quote: "WUG."

Right after I created a staking thread. I wrote you back, "What does WUG mean?"

You write back only ask me for my AIM. I assume your inquiring about my stake. I ask you if this is the case. Now here you are.

Again you PM'd me first w/ your illiterate jibberish. I think this sets the tone for your posts in this thread and your integrity/credibility is now suspect.
dude again u called yourself out and please dont lie about what you pmd me... its clearly nothing like what you said... and i was simply responding to your questions in the thread.. and again..after i said wug and u responded back clearly not knowing what it meant.. i asked why you wanted to know what sites i play at.... at no time did u mistake me for someone from your staking thread obv and i assumed u wanted to talk strategy . seriously man... its like going up to a charity and asking them to donate to another charity... i understand now why you thought it would be ok... u assumed i was a super baller that was down 3 mirrion dollars.. but it was 3 mirrion tournament chips and filtered at that.

lol my integrity credibility is suspect?? lol i can send out 2 ims and have 10k transferred to my account in 10 minutes if i wanted... i understand your trying to save face now... its ok bro.. i will let it go.. just dont bring it up again.. and i wont report the pm's exact details getting you a most likely ban and loss of marketplace privileges ... let it die bro..
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07-09-2010 , 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Yarbles
what do you call a person that pms you looking for a stake after seeomg your posts in a rigged site claiming how you are down so much money and cant win... and other aholes posting detailed buy in amounts of the tourneys i play..i have no clue what you call this person but its pretty ****ing amazing if you ask me. not sure who is worse the guy posting details about me or the beggar begging for stakes.

thanks monteroy for putting my ****ing business out there so now i can get harassed for stakes because of the stakes i play. thanks monteroy huf*****
plz steaks me

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07-09-2010 , 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by obviously.bogus
plz steaks me
wtf holly hot damm 260k posts... wtf u doing here... taking over the internets

Last edited by Yarbles; 07-09-2010 at 12:50 AM. Reason: fufufufu cant believe i fell for that
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07-09-2010 , 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by PLAYOFFS
life is rigged, get over it
PLAYOFFS U WANT TO TALK ABOUT PLAYOFFS
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07-09-2010 , 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Yarbles
wtf holly hot damm 260k posts... wtf u doing here... taking over the internets

fufufufu cant believe i fell for that
No steaks then
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07-09-2010 , 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by obviously.bogus
No steaks then
seriously can u please stake me in the turbo take down?
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07-09-2010 , 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Yarbles
seriously can u please stake me in the turbo take down?
seriously ??? after all you've posted ITT ???


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Last edited by obviously.bogus; 07-09-2010 at 01:11 AM. Reason: my "requests" were seriously non-serious
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