No, there is a subtle difference.

The search button is your friend.

I just read someone's account that poker stars shuffles the 52 cards at first and that is that. But I have to admit that Wiki's insinuation has caught my interest more than the original question. Great place to start a stupid argument

Stars uses a set deck afaik.

nicely done, sir.
don't they have some thing that uses atmospheric conditions as part of their algorithm?

(not joking)

I believe that's the mouse movements.

When I go to a brick and mortar poker room I suffer the same bad beats and 2500-1 shot losses (2 perfect cards--I know odds are approximate--in a limit game 2000-1 and 2500-1 are the same as far as pot odds go--not worth it.)

Online you play faster and are more suspicious and are usually against better players.

Far below your usual standard, wik. Must be getting tired!

Playing faster, particularly six max online, is better to the extent that you need to see a bad player's stack dwindle.

Yeah, I think you are right, but it uses that information to draw a deck and it deals from that deck in that order throughout the hand. On FTP the deck is constantly being shuffled even after the hole cards have been dealt.

Josem can correct me if I'm wrong.

A bag of walnuts.

candied or raw? they better be raw

I thought maybe I'd been mistaken on this, but on searching for it, Wikipedia would appear to confirm my first thoughts:

'As of 2010, the Special Olympics, Best Buddies and over 100 other organizations are striving to help eliminate the use of the "r-word" (analogous to the "n-word") in everyday conversation.'

'In the UK, it is very important to understand that the verbs (?) '******ation' and '******ed' (along with private usage of '******') are highly, and completely unacceptable in both professional and personal situations - and it is deemed just as offensive as many other stereotypical pejoratives used in the United States. A BBC poll conducted in the United Kingdom came to the conclusion that '******' was the most offensive disability-related word.'

I genuinely thought the word became unacceptable many years ago and if not, it's clear from the two quotes above that it is certainly thought of as derogatory and in the process of being phased out.

As I said, many words have become offensive which you may not have once considered to be so, you have to be respectful enough of other people to stop using such words, WHETHER YOU BELIEVE THEM TO BE OFFENSIVE OR NOT and WHETHER THEY ARE DIRECTED AT THAT PARTICULAR GROUP OF PEOPLE OR NOT.

We live in a tolerant, accepting society and there is no need to be using a word which could be considered offensive, when there are 10 or 100 other words which aren't offensive which could easily be used instead.

We get it. You are offended by things that you read on internet message boards. Stop deflecting though and answer the below before you call other people's character into question.

When I said I'd carried out calculations, I meant I'd calculated that aces or any other pair should be dealt once every 221 hands. I didn't say I'd calculated how often it was actually happening. If you check the post to which you're referring you will see that.

I did do several statistics modules at uni. I was commenting on what I felt I was witnessing as that was all I had to go on. I wouldn't claim what I felt was accurate without looking into it further. That would be naive in the extreme.

Also, I didn't know what the word 'menial' meant. Heard it used a few times before but didn't know at the time I asked. I am TERRIBLE with computers as well, not sure why that's so hard to believe, never really had to use them as part of my degree.

I am trying to get a job using my degree, believe me. Easier said than done.

I didn't mean to 'proudly' announce my degree, I don't generally do that as I don't think it's anything to be particularly proud of as I have seen how readily they hand them out. I was just making a point related to maths and felt it would be taken more seriously if I explained what knowledge I was basing it on.

And this is what is frustrating. Figuring out how often you've been dealt certain hands is perhaps the simplest and easiest statistical analysis you can do. If you need help figuring out how to do so, then ask. But before you post anymore, don't you think you should at least figure out if what you thought you were observing was accurate?

I need help figuring out how to do so please ?

1. Get your handhistories: if they aren't already saved on your computer, contact your site and they will send them to you: get as many as you call, all of them if possible.

2. Download either pokertracker 3 or holdem manager. you can google them. They each have free trials. Wait until you receive your HHs so you don't waste time. You can decide to buy later if you want.

3. Import your hands into the program (you should be able to figure it out, post if you can't)

3. In PT3 (i don't have HEM) got to the Hands tab. It will show you exactly how many of each hand type you have seen. You can play with filters if you want to see only pairs, for example. (can't remember if the demo allows access to all the features, hopefully this feature will be enabled.)

Hope this helps!

Unfortunatley I am not able to download these programs at the moment. I'm hoping to have them as soon as possible though.

Why not?

I tried downloading them, clicked 'run' and nothing happens. A fault with my computer I think.

And have you tried their website for support? Gone to the forums?

Can you run any exe files? Test this by clicking on Start/Run and typing in calc.exe and enter. If nothing happens, then you can't.

Some viruses, and removal of some viruses, will break the exe file association in Windows and not let them run.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555067

If that doesn't work, look here:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=&oq=&gs_rfai=

You then need to make sure your antivirus software is up to date and run a full system scan. I'd run a good spyware scan too, like superantispyware.

also malwarebytes

oh and pt has a forum on 2+2, lots of places for help