People say SNE is gonna be removed.

lol, announcaments.

A lot of people living in a poker bubble ITT. First of all, stars didnt charge lower rake when they were a private company to be nice to regulars. They did it because they thought it was the best way to maximise profit. Clearly this new company has different ideas. So yeah, pretty standard business.

If you dont like it go somewhere else. Pretty simple really. Star owes you nothing.

Also if you believe that these changes will ruin the site then plow your bankroll into a short sell of the company....win win right...

a short sell.,, what the? I don't even...

I cant fathom the logic here.

also, hi amaya investment shill department.

Does it effect 6m or FR tables too? I mean not in HU.

People need to stop asking does it affect this game or that format. Indirectly it affects them all.

pokerstars are either completely clueless about how the changes will effect the games or they are purposely trying to push people away from higher win-rate, lower volume "regular" games to lower win-rate, higher volume Zoom.
not hard to figure out which one it is ...

stars flaunted US banking law and remained in the market after actors such as industry leader party pulled out in accordance with US wishes at the time

stars was rewarded with a dominant market share and unmatched name recognition as a result of that violation of US law

stars has determined that given no credible market rival poisted as an alternative for cusomers to choose should they feel mistreated, stars has licence to take actions which reduce the maximum edge achievable by its successful players. this harms consumers and benefits the company's bottom line and with no valid competition to fear stars has made changes to pricing and structuring that lead to losers losing faster and winners winning slower while not publicizing their changes or the motivations for them

AMAYAstars since a recent aquisition has has leapt out ahead of the curve of pokerstars diminishing service and gone much farther faster than the old ownership had and has sought to divert the flow of funds on its site through forms which though technically poker are not in keeping with the idea that poker is a skill game and if you work harder/play better than your opponent you will profit more than they do

AMAYAstars has already changed some variants of poker from skill games to gambling games, as with new rake and structures, the correct decision an informed rational actor would take, would be to not participate in order to minimize losses to rake which cannot be overcome by expected profits off opponents mistakes

AMAYAstars hostility towards players who seek to excell at poker by creating and realizing a longterm edge through superior decision making combined with the pokerstars brand name with its no longer accurate but extremely widespread reputation for outstanding customer service, fair and secure games, and trustworthiness with player funds, is a combination that will ultimately be devastating to US consumers if they are allowed to reintroduce their current product and logo into the US market

AMAYAstars should not be allowed to reenter the US market for a period of no less than 10 years so as to allow new and existing operators who have not violated US law in the past the opportunity to adapt and grow without the obstruction of essentially a monopoly based on outdated brand recognition which will cap potential returns of all rivals if it is allowed back into the US without a penalty waiting period imposed

wow this is brutal, especially considering how late in the year these rules were introduced. just brutal

Those numbers aren't right, as I posted earlier. At least for the 6Max hyper satellites. Well, they may be right but you are going to get SNE in about 40K fewer tournaments so it's not apples to apples. I posted the correct numbers after that post somewhere.

One thought also came - when they have higher rake, then then can also make better promotions to give that lost rake back thought them.

hahahahahahahahaha

So it doesn't effect on 6max and FR games if it's not a HU on that tables?

+1

Funny how we all badly wanted Stars back in the U.S. and now everyone wants them to stay away so a viable competitor develops.

does someone has a crossed-off amaya sign in good resolution for me/my fb and can post it here? google image search didnt help me (yet)

Everyone wanted Pokerstars back in the US, but not Greedstars.

lmao
you would have been begging the us govt to allow stars in the us if they didn't make these changes. don't pretend you give half a **** that they broke us law.
and saying AMAYAstars is almost as annoying as the people who think they're clever when they say Aroid instead of Arod. Instead of clever you just come off as a self righteous unoriginal dbag.

You also come across as a self righteous unoriginal dbag.

http://www.pokernews.com/news/2014/1...ease-19706.htm

There are $234.25+ $8.75 PCA hyper SNG sats in the lobby right now. I hope this is a mistake.

what would be your reaction if stars would and posted that all of the rake increase goes into promotions? would you be ok with that?


Hey that's only 3,75%.. If we do the 250% deal I guess the rake was 3.5$ before?

Galfond is absolutely right. The lack of a serious competitor is killing us.

yeah I must say Galfond's statement is excellent