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08-22-2015 , 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by bolt2112
That's a pretty big logical jump there to say you're down 10 an hour because of other players who tip... unless they're reaching into your stack for chips to toss to the dealer.

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Who pays the rake then? And how is this different?

Only one guy was very deep (>$600), everyone else had average size stacks, which overall were a little shorter then you might expect as individual re buys are capped at $150. You can buy up to $300, but it's a poor town and people don't do that. They buy in for $150 at a time.

So two guys with $250 stacks go at it, and one guy drags a $500 pot. He tips $30. Next hand I tangle with same guy and he ships me his stack of $470.

You don't see the problem here?

And this place is a fish pond. 70% of the players (most of whom are the big tippers) are going broke by the end of the night anyway. Their money goes somewhere.....to the good players. I was just giving a simple example, in reality it's not shared equally at 10 bucks an hour. The handful of good players are eating it
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08-22-2015 , 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
I don't understand why you continue to play at Milford when you seem to have tons of issues with the way they operate.
I don't always, I strongly prefer foxwoods. Since the new laws in NH I play locally about 30% of the time I get to play.

I'm a single parent, and my parents/babysitter lives in Milford. Someday when I strike it rich, I'll buy my mom a place in Vegas, but until then it is what it is. When I don't have my kids, I make the jaunt down to the the 'Woods.

Have you ever tried to get to Salem or the Seacost from west of Nashua? It's way -EV
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08-22-2015 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SpexDome
Collusion beats skill every time though.
haha.
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08-26-2015 , 01:08 AM
Not your money, not your business
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08-26-2015 , 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by fuluck414
Not your money, not your business
It's the table's money until you rack up and leave
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08-26-2015 , 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by SpexDome
It's the table's money until you rack up and leave
lol nope

entitlement tilt ITT
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08-26-2015 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SpexDome
It's the table's money until you rack up and leave
Try again
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08-28-2015 , 07:48 AM
I'm particularly interested in dealers' opinions on this issue.

How much should a player, who isn't in it for the money, tip after a tournament cash? And should the player tip the last dealer or give the floor the tip with instructions to split it among the dealers who worked the tournament?

Last edited by Rapini; 08-28-2015 at 09:18 AM.
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08-28-2015 , 09:56 AM
Most tournaments include a "dealer fee" nowadays so on those I would tip around $0.
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08-28-2015 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyLikeABird
Most tournaments include a "dealer fee" nowadays so on those I would tip around $0.
I didn't think of that and will have to look into whether the tournaments I will be regularly playing has a "dealer fee".
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08-28-2015 , 12:24 PM
1. Most places, if you give a tip directly to a tournament dealer, he must turn it over to the TD to be added to the pool or get into trouble.

2. I would only give a tip to the TD in the presence of a representative of the dealers.

3. Some places take out a percentage of the prize pool for staff (dealers, floor, cashier) tips. Some have "dealer add ons" (X addition starting chips for $Y) that are technically voluntary, but usually such a good deal that most people buy them. In either case, take that into consideration when/if you tip.
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08-28-2015 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AngusThermopyle
1. Most places, if you give a tip directly to a tournament dealer, he must turn it over to the TD to be added to the pool or get into trouble.

2. I would only give a tip to the TD in the presence of a representative of the dealers.

3. Some places take out a percentage of the prize pool for staff (dealers, floor, cashier) tips. Some have "dealer add ons" (X addition starting chips for $Y) that are technically voluntary, but usually such a good deal that most people buy them. In either case, take that into consideration when/if you tip.
I hadn't played a live tournament in so long and hadn't cashed in even longer, that I didn't think about tipping until after my third cash (second due to a chop) when the chop advocate was talking to a dealer about tipping him and having to catch him later.

I ended up giving ten percent of that night's win to the person behind the counter with a request for him to divide it among all the dealers who worked the tournament. But what would be a nice tip for one dealer wasn't very much when divided by the number of dealers involved.

As I didn't know the proper procedure for in the future, I made this post.

Last edited by Doc T River; 08-28-2015 at 01:59 PM. Reason: When it comes to tipping, cash games are so much easier.
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08-28-2015 , 03:32 PM
If I gather your question right, that you want to tip 1 particular dealer, that depends entirely on you. But to do it, grab the dealer away from the tables (generally speaking) and give him/her your thanks. In most places, anything given at the tournament tables goes into the tournament pool for all the dealers (and staff).
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08-28-2015 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by bigfishead
If I gather your question right, that you want to tip 1 particular dealer, that depends entirely on you. But to do it, grab the dealer away from the tables (generally speaking) and give him/her your thanks. In most places, anything given at the tournament tables goes into the tournament pool for all the dealers (and staff).
Actually, wondering if it is customary to tip the last dealer or all dealers and my preference is to do whatever is customary.
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08-28-2015 , 05:02 PM
In an ideal world, in a place where they pool tournament tips among the tournament dealers by hours dealt, any tip given to any dealer "personally" will end up in the pool, even if you tell them it's "just for them".

"Customary", in the sense of what you're looking for, is for you to just leave what you want to tip at the window where you get your payout and maybe ask "Do I leave tips for the dealers here?" to make sure that's how they do it and that the cashier isn't just taking it with the thought "This guy didn't specify who it was for, so I'm keeping it myself".


As for the amount, you're going to get a lot of answers here and none of them are right or necessarily wrong. Some places have a decent chunk taken out of each buyin, some places have "dealer add on" at the start. Some places share the dealer tokes with the management running the tournament. There are also some places like local clubs that have volunteer dealers that don't make an hourly and they rely on tipping at the end to make their wages. It's all different from place to place. I would recommend asking a floor that you know also deals or used to deal the following question to get the best answer for a given property:

"What would make the dealers happy? What is the bottom range of what they are looking for where they won't hate me?"

And then judge your tip amount from that. Tipping a single dealer that dealt you the big hands of the tournament isn't really necessary, and imo, as a dealer, the only reason I would be okay with tipping a dealer off to the side to be kept for themselves is if you have a really big problem with a certain dealer and want to ensure they don't get any of your tip.
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08-28-2015 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ReidLockhart
In an ideal world, in a place where they pool tournament tips among the tournament dealers by hours dealt, any tip given to any dealer "personally" will end up in the pool, even if you tell them it's "just for them".

"Customary", in the sense of what you're looking for, is for you to just leave what you want to tip at the window where you get your payout and maybe ask "Do I leave tips for the dealers here?" to make sure that's how they do it and that the cashier isn't just taking it with the thought "This guy didn't specify who it was for, so I'm keeping it myself".


As for the amount, you're going to get a lot of answers here and none of them are right or necessarily wrong. Some places have a decent chunk taken out of each buyin, some places have "dealer add on" at the start. Some places share the dealer tokes with the management running the tournament. There are also some places like local clubs that have volunteer dealers that don't make an hourly and they rely on tipping at the end to make their wages. It's all different from place to place. I would recommend asking a floor that you know also deals or used to deal the following question to get the best answer for a given property:

"What would make the dealers happy? What is the bottom range of what they are looking for where they won't hate me?"

And then judge your tip amount from that. Tipping a single dealer that dealt you the big hands of the tournament isn't really necessary, and imo, as a dealer, the only reason I would be okay with tipping a dealer off to the side to be kept for themselves is if you have a really big problem with a certain dealer and want to ensure they don't get any of your tip.
At this casino where payouts are done is at the regular cage downstairs from the poker room so I am not sure any tip would make it back upstairs. If dealers aren't already taken care of, I will just carry cash with me so when I cash I don't have to get the paperwork, go get paid, and go back to the poker room.
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08-30-2015 , 07:47 AM
Been dealing a long time and will just say this about tipping:
1. tipping is a personal choice and nobody should be told how much or little.
2. Most poker dealers, at least in Vegas, keep what they get tipped and don't have to share. They rely on tips for a living, not their crappy hourly wage.
3. Reduction of tipping is directly proportional to reduction of quality of dealers. Generally speaking, WSOP case in point.
4. Giving is better than receiving
4. Karma is a bitch.
5. Hey, it's Las Vegas, so tip

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08-30-2015 , 08:09 AM
I've been wondering about what folks tip when high hand and Bad Beat jackpots hit.

I usually tip about 7% (10% after my 30% tax hit), but I've seen other players tip 5% and be considered generous. Of course, I've also seen folks stiff the dealer by giving them $5 when they win the pot and "forgetting" about them after they have moved to the next table prior to the jackpot payout.

The high hand promo's are $500 to $1,500 and the mini Bad Beats are around $4,000. What would you guys tip?
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08-30-2015 , 08:59 AM
I don't see why a dealer should get a percentage of a jackpot tip. I tip because dealers deserve to make a living, and I tip a little bit better to the better dealers. But dealing a jackpot hand isn't a skill, so why should a dealer be rewarded for it?

I might give ten or twenty bucks, but that's only because I don't want to appear cheap.
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08-30-2015 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat the Gambler

But dealing a jackpot hand isn't a skill, so why should a dealer be rewarded for it? I might give ten or twenty bucks, but that's only because I don't want to appear cheap.

Guess what?
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08-31-2015 , 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by bingbangblaow
my goal isntt to tilt people its just one of the results

i do it to give the dealers a treat they are human beings just like me and you
100$ isnt going to do much for me thats like a hand of baccarat or black jack
but for that dealer thats like a entire shift of work

and im tipping because i won that session essentially like robin hood i do it after i rack up not while im playing because i dont need to tilt the table to win its just more of a final FU to the table as i leave to make sure they remember who it was that came and owned their soul like that saying whos your daddy after you beat somebody bad or a dog marking its territory


Lol, you're like Robin Hood. Dude, job the grandiose notion that poker is anything more or less than taking money from people who come the the table less prepared (in whatever capacity) than you.
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08-31-2015 , 07:52 AM
I talked to a dealer and he said for a $150 buy-in tournament, about $5 per entrant went to the dealers.
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08-31-2015 , 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Doc T River
I talked to a dealer and he said for a $150 buy-in tournament, about $5 per entrant went to the dealers.
If this is the case then I'd tip around 5% of profit if I placed in the top 4 or 5.

Assuming 100 players, that's 10 dealers for about 2 hours, then let's say 8 dealers for another hour, then 5 for the next (I'm being very aggressive with the structure being fast).

3 for 1
2 for 1
1 for two. (Unless they chop early).

So that's a total of 40-50 hours dealt, so they're getting about 10 an hour on top of their salary which in most places is less than min wage. Not all the dealers are getting a full 8 hours. In fact, most of then are only getting 2-4.

If no one leave anything at the windows, them some sad tournament hours (imo). I'm sure there will be plenty of angry pros in here talking about how dealers should be gettin minimum wage for 'such an easy job', but no dealer gets into dealing to make $50 a day.
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09-02-2015 , 01:13 PM
dealer sat down to deal. she kept on saying she was having a bad day.
a player finally took the bait and asked her about it.

she said she dealt two high hands during the high hands promo and got $0 tip from both.
(Every 30min, player with the highest hand in the room gets $500.)

after that entitlement attitude, I just tipped her $1 no matter the size of pot. ($0 if I won it preflop and one of the preflop pots was $60 at 1/2 nl.)
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09-05-2015 , 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by AA Suited
I just tipped her $1 no matter the size of pot. ($0 if I won it preflop and one of the preflop pots was $60 at 1/2 nl.)
Where I play, that's standard.
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