I only watched this for Hellmuth-Durrr but I loved Jamie Gold's intro : "I'm so honoured to take part in this event".

Translation : "Look at me, I've been invited to this very important event ! I don't suck ! I don't, right ?"

congratulations you suck at HU NLHE

he wasn't going to say anything until Phil went into his dbag berating mode, and if you aren't willing to back up the "you play bad" with more action you need to STFU

Winner

I liked his all in call with second pair against chan's flush...../slaps forehead

people talk about the recent winners of WSOP being donks...but Williams was too much of a donkey to be a WSOP donk winner..

That chick Ivey was playing looked way hotter in sunglasses and mouth closed. Leann looked great out there.

The TT push is standard, but not against a limp raising Phil Hellmuth. The guy only does that with big hands, I've seen it so many times, bleh. Durr even said in an interview that regardless of the situation or who he was playing he's always doing that with tens. It's kind of a testament to Durrr's success by sticking with his game regardless of the circumstances so 1+ for that.

The trash talking on both sides was horrendous. Phil always sounds like an idiot, but the less Durrr talks the better.

agreed. The microstakes nuthuggers can keep saying "standard" over and over, but if durr is so great, he should have just outplayed Phil later. It was obvious Phil has 10s crushed. He only plays hands like that when he has 10s crushed.

WHETHER THAT'S BAD POKER OR NOT, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
it's worse for Durrr to shove when he should know he's beat.

While i generally take the other side against the nut huggers, ill say Phil didn't really look like he wanted any part of playing a HU series with Durrr. But i would root for Hellmuth 100%, just b/c of the nuthuggers on this forum who would justify it if Durrr sold nucleur secrets to North Korea.

nuthuggers unite, durrr got his money in bad, won, and now you feel special.

Durr stood up to Hellmuth's nonsense. He won in poker, and he won in life.

The best part of the Heads Up Championship this past weekend on tv was seeing Phil get owned by Durr. I just loved the was Durr carried himself and did not back down from Phil and his antics. Phil is such a tool. If Phil did not want Durr to draw out on him he sould have played some post flop poker and outplayed him instead of only getting it all in with 1 pair. Like 1 pair preflop ever holds up. Phil is a tool and it was hilarious watching him get owned by Durr.

Wow, I hope this is a level. So Phil should have laid down the Aces then since he shouldnt get it all in with 1 pair?

+1.

Durrr's face when Phil insta-called and turned over the 2 aces was priceless. I do respect the way Durrr stood up to Phil's crybaby antics, but to all the people saying Phil got owned or outplayed, please stfu.

It`s advanced meta game strategy...you wouldnt understand.

This show is interesting, but I would like to see more play and less fluff.

Phil vs. Durr seemed pretty standard to me. Phil could of had AK.
Again, I would like to see more play and less show. Durr is obviously a skilled young player.

Because, unless Phil had exactly Aces, how big is the chance that Phil will lay it down? Or will have AK in that spot?
Or is there 0% chance that Phil would reraise with KK-JJ there?

Plus, if the two of them have an online history, that could have played a part in the strategy.

ummm.... not really, though I gave him more points than Mr fullofHiMself.

david williams has played decently well on PAD. not sure wtf he was doing against chan. one of the hands wasn't so bad, but the other hand where he c/c flop with top pair weak kicker and then checked behind on turn was sooo bad.

Are you saying that any hand that PH would reraise with here, on national television, could not be followed by the trademarked Pokerbrat genius fold?

Anyone have a link to where I can watch this?

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/23011821 Video player on the right side.

I was trying to imagine the gutshot feeling it must have been, to have a feared player on the ropes 3:1, get Kings..... and lose the hand to become the chip dog.

I'm repeating myself, but what range of hands do you say PH would limp-reraise with? Of those hands, how many will he subsequently lay down when facing a 17k reraise, against a young kid, on national TV?

I won't speak to a push HU with TT preflop as being "standard" because I wouldn't know.

What I found rather amusing in the whole dramabomb was the fact that Phil is probably destined to go broke on this hand in almost every conceivable scenario:

a) Durr checks behind PF, some money goes in on the King-high flop and the turn Ten probably gets the rest.

b) Durr calls PH check-raise, making the pot around T6200. King-high flop, the money might get all-in there.... but unless Durr led out for a significant amount, is Phil pushing? If not, they get to the turn and again all of the money goes in... except Phil is a "donkey" for then getting much of his money in when behind.
This was the only scenario where I could see Durr possibly laying down his tens before the turn.

c) Both limp on the flop, Durr bets out on the turn and Phil might be able to extract himself from the hand with some of his stack intact, after looking into his soul
(do online players have souls? I thought selling them was part of the entrance fee

I found this to be an interesting statement... because you present it as something a successful poker player should be doing. Can you elaborate?

I'll give Durr a little slack for being a young kid, even though I generally lecture against that. However, when dealing with full-blown PokerBrat... he's setting the douchebaggery standard, so he gets the blame
plus, I'm not a PH fan, so I might not be objective. Even though I thought Durr came across as a cocky Internet punk... he is a cocky Internet punk. I was very very thrilled with PH's knockout, so I'm biased.

Seriously?

Phil Hellmuth manages to get it all in before the flop with aces, and you're saying he should look for a better spot?

QFT, and to emphasize that this was the third hand in the tournament, with more than adequate chips in relation to the blinds. It was just so unnecessary.

I think there's a divide between the people who would never put 20k in with TT on the 3rd hand of the tournament, and those who say it is "standard" and that if you disagree YOU ARE WRONG. Poll the pro's who play in Bobby's Room and I'd say almost none of them would make that play. Take a poll of the 20-something year old's who play 300/600 heads up on FTP ever night and almost all of them would say it's standard. I'm in neither category so my opinion probably doesn't hold as much weight, but I don't see how you can call it a standard play in the particular situation where you are heads up w/ Helmuth and he has limp-re-raised you.

If you put yourself in the mindset of a Durrr or a Brian Townsend or a Phil Galfond, I guess it's a standard play because these guys have such a sick amount of gamble in them that they are willing to risk their entire stacks, whether it's in cash games or tournaments if they believe they have even a microscopic edge. A guy like Helmuth on the other hand is much more conservative and will sometimes pass up on the opportunity to potentially get his money in as a 55/45 favorite because he can wait for a spot where he'll be 80/20. It should also be noted that Hellmuth has been around for 20 years and has established himself as one of the best hold 'em tournament players in the world. The odds of him ever going busto at any point in the rest of his life are almost nil. On the other hand, none of the young internet whiz kids has been around long enough to prove that their playing style is actually sustainable in the long run. I firmly believe that somebody like Durrr can have a $5 million bankroll one day and be broke within a week if he goes on a bad enough run. Shoving 20k with TT in that situation is indicative of an overall style or philosophy of play that results in huge swings that can either be extremely lucrative or downright catastrophic.

why can't Durrr RR to 6k or 8k and fold to a Hellmuth shove...not 100%standard imo