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06-01-2019 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CodyBLAHHH
Apparently people didn't learn from Black Friday about the woes and end result of online poker sites operating illegally and without oversight...
Well, Stars was licensed and regulated by the Isle of Man, same as now.
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06-01-2019 , 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Gzesh
Well, Stars was licensed and regulated by the Isle of Man, same as now.
Well things like Absolute Poker, UB, and FT come to mind in regards to sites currently operating illegally such as WPN
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06-01-2019 , 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by CodyBLAHHH
Well things like Absolute Poker, UB, and FT come to mind in regards to sites currently operating illegally such as WPN
As someone who has been playing online long enough to have been around for all of these scandals, I can say I have learned from them. Today, as a father of two, who has a 50+ hour/week job and lives almost 3 hours away from the nearest live poker room, I have 2 options. Stop playing poker all together or play online. I have chosen the latter and keep minimal funds online. I chose to play not in hopes of ever earning enough money to play full time, but for the pure enjoyment of the game and competition.

I’d wager the majority of people who still play online, whether it be WPN, Ignition, BO, etc. fit into the same category as me.
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06-01-2019 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
I think most of that is pretty spot on. Not sure what the first part about a parody of myself means exactly though lol I'm usually just being myself.

The Jungleman pod was a bit different because Jungle had just been assaulted and I know he couldn't reveal many details about the first 45 mins worth of questioning so I didn't follow up in certain spots. He has def said too much in the past podcasts and I don't want to have that happen again w/ him.

100% the ACR stuff ruined my love of online poker, it was my life up until that point. I'm not sure what my life really is at this point. I'm just doing random things to some degree of success or failure it feels like.

Sasha says the same thing about my aura, appearance and overall attitude when I am doing content. I had much more life to me before I moved to Vegas and before ACR happened. It will pass at some point and I think that point is when I finally put all that **** behind me and probably put online poker behind me.

These past 2 months I was pretty locked in & focused for the first 5 weeks or so but the past 2 weeks I've felt different again. I think most of the podcasts & my content have been pretty strong but I know for certain parts I wasn't feeling it very much. My interest in certain conversation topics isn't what it used to be as online poker has faded out of my life. The topics I find the most interesting & enjoy talking about the most never come up on the current form of the podcast I am doing whereas years ago I was ONLY interested in talking all things poker life/mindset. It's something I've been trying to figure out w/ myself and what I want to do moving forward. I still love playing PLO but I know that the future is very bad w/ online PLO.

I told myself I would focus again on poker content until WSOP ends and then decide what I want to do moving ahead. I probably should be creating a bit more in-depth knowledge based non-strategic poker content that I can research and put together in some type of investigative form but we shall see.
There's still a fair bit of higher stakes plo that goes on at bellagio during the series. Do those games not interest you at all?

In regards to the ACR stuff, you are handling it totally fine obv. ACR is a dumpster fire and has been for a long time. They don't deserve the benefit of the doubt at this point about them actually having good intentions.
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06-01-2019 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
I guess you haven't watched or paid close attention in over a year.

It was that way until the ACR stuff went down. I've played here and there online since and the same for live poker here in LV.

I did start off making content for fun, to help grow PLOOO and help people get great players out there to the poker world. Almost everyone I am close w/ has told me for years I should take things more serious and actually try to make money from what I do and treat it like a business. I still love talking poker and playing PLO. I also have a lot of fun still doing content but I don't feel like I have a direction. The direction I set out for I achieved years ago w/ the podcast & content. The answer probably lies in doing more type of stuff I enjoy aka PLO and the Real Poker Talk videos.



lol this is the way I feel about it, I feel like I'm taking ****ing crazy pills here. People are more upset I titled a video than w/ ACR. It's a very small minority but nonetheless. I do enjoy hearing their perspectives because you can tell they are desperate to keep ACR a thing which makes sense. ACR isn't going anywhere because I made a video asking if they are stealing money from players that has 7,000 views.
Most poker content is boring af, so yes I’ve paid little attention. I prefer to watch a drunk hs plo stream in pieces rather than some random 2/5 vlogger or “poker news” which is 90% negative/ toxic af.

Fairly surprised you’re not grinding midstakes plo online by day and playing Vegas games at night. That’s surely enough volume and higher hourly vs grinding podcasts and other poker content. Id like to see lefort, stern, yarrny etc back on the cast but that doesn’t look likely to happen.
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06-02-2019 , 02:11 AM
Majority of people itt pissed about the WPN video not because the allegations. Its that Joey is spending time making videos about the circus that is WPN n its taking away from their favorite poker player being on the pod and the pods overall quality lately. Standard stuff as usual.
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06-02-2019 , 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
Agree

This is what all my friends tell me every time I get myself worked up over it.
when i saw your vid about ACR , i was wondering if you were blowing up to quickly. do you think that the glitches have to do with them actually making an effort but because they are incompetent its blowing up in there face? what can they even do about bots anyway? i personally think the only solution is to have to be on cam yourself while playing ( and you can see all players at the table) ( self regulate almost) . i think i only saw your original one so i dont know of any updates but did you try to contact phil naggy? will he answer questions?

also why not play on bovada? or any other site? i never felt ACR felt any safer than any other us facing site. im sure you could vpn to stars or ya know anything else. idk why youd put all your hope into ACR. ive suspected bots on that site years ago before you made the first videos. that site is trash anyways. bots and slow softwear acr is **** .
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06-02-2019 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mcc3504
Majority of people itt pissed about the WPN video not because the allegations. Its that Joey is spending time making videos about the circus that is WPN n its taking away from their favorite poker player being on the pod and the pods overall quality lately. Standard stuff as usual.
Briefly skimmed his content.. the quality isn’t good because most of the people he’s interviewing won’t be relevant in a few years, so why watch or listen? At least try to cover the biggest games (triton) and get some of the players or even commentators on your podcast. The only interesting pods are jungleman and they’re too few and far between.

It’s also weird that he’s going into great detail about bots and shady poker sites. That bs has been going on for years, particularly on ACR, so why is he ranting about old news? If his podcast grew organically then his podcasts would be very dif ever since hsdb came out, but he chose to sweep truly juicy clickbait under the rug

Last edited by upswinging; 06-02-2019 at 04:33 PM.
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06-02-2019 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by upswinging
Briefly skimmed his content.. the quality isn’t good because most of the people he’s interviewing won’t be relevant in a few years, so why watch or listen? At least try to cover the biggest games (triton) and get some of the players or even commentators on your podcast. The only interesting pods are jungleman and they’re too few and far between.

It’s also weird that he’s going into great detail about bots and shady poker sites. That bs has been going on for years, particularly on ACR, so why is he ranting about old news? If his podcast grew organically then his podcasts would be very dif ever since hsdb came out, but he chose to sweep truly juicy clickbait under the rug
i feel like its people like you that make people of interest stop responding in threads. could you have less of a clue of what your talking about?

there is so much info in those old podcasts with the high stakes crushers if you listen correctly. easily the best poker podcast out there. joey got the online crushers to come out of the woodwork. dude your a clown.
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06-02-2019 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by upswinging
Briefly skimmed his content.. the quality isn’t good because most of the people he’s interviewing won’t be relevant in a few years, so why watch or listen? At least try to cover the biggest games (triton) and get some of the players or even commentators on your podcast. The only interesting pods are jungleman and they’re too few and far between.

It’s also weird that he’s going into great detail about bots and shady poker sites. That bs has been going on for years, particularly on ACR, so why is he ranting about old news? If his podcast grew organically then his podcasts would be very dif ever since hsdb came out, but he chose to sweep truly juicy clickbait under the rug
lol I need to get off this site

Thanks for the input

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06-02-2019 , 06:10 PM
You need get on the person who lost a billion dollars.
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06-02-2019 , 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by R_Webb18
You need get on the person who lost a billion dollars.
Gus is on soon i believe
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06-02-2019 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by fishfood69er
i feel like its people like you that make people of interest stop responding in threads. could you have less of a clue of what your talking about?

there is so much info in those old podcasts with the high stakes crushers if you listen correctly. easily the best poker podcast out there. joey got the online crushers to come out of the woodwork. dude your a clown.
His old podcasts had much better content vs his new ones even though the production quality is better vs his first pods. Interviewing recent high stakes mtt winners isn’t interesting. Guys like Alex and Fedor etc are really young and lack experiences to have interesting stories to tell on a live podcast. Not insulting, just that very young people don’t have enough interesting things to talk about for 3+ hours.

Jungleman does have interesting stories and is one of the few in the world who will still be playing high stakes cash 10+ years from now. He’s clearly highly intelligent and listening to his takes on poker and life are.. entertaining to say the least.

Matt Berkey is another solid pod. He has lots to talk about for a couple hours and the conversation never stagnates. I don’t agree with a lot of what he says irt poker but he’s clearly intelligent, has a track record and thinks in detail (even though I don’t agree). It’s still entertaining and will listen to his follow up after the series.

Most of the online crushers are duds. Great at the game, unable or unwilling to talk in depth about it... which would be fine if they had other interesting stuff to talk about for 2+ hours but they don’t. Ffs look at the cumicon interview.

There’s only so much poker content the average viewer can consume. And if we we’re going by view counts it’s obvious that more people choose to watch a hs stream vs an interview with recent mtt winner or online crusher. It’s simply more entertaining and informative.

You’re welcome for the input Joey

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06-02-2019 , 10:37 PM
I'm from the other side of the planet, I have to watch the videos with subtitles and you do not know how happy I am every time I watch a new video of an online player. I'm sure that any pod of hs online player makes people who watch it much happier than any American live poker video/stream.
I imagine that casinos have killed online poker entirely in the US and that is why people find online crushers uninteresting but find it interesting to see mediocre and drunk players play 20 hands / hour, it's ridiculous
Do not stop interviewing HS online players pls, and ty for doing it
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06-02-2019 , 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by upswinging
His old podcasts had much better content vs his new ones even though the production quality is better vs his first pods. Interviewing recent high stakes mtt winners isn’t interesting. Guys like Alex and Fedor etc are really young and lack experiences to have interesting stories to tell on a live podcast. Not insulting, just that very young people don’t have enough interesting things to talk about for 3+ hours.

Jungleman does have interesting stories and is one of the few in the world who will still be playing high stakes cash 10+ years from now. He’s clearly highly intelligent and listening to his takes on poker and life are.. entertaining to say the least.

Matt Berkey is another solid pod. He has lots to talk about for a couple hours and the conversation never stagnates. I don’t agree with a lot of what he says irt poker but he’s clearly intelligent, has a track record and thinks in detail (even though I don’t agree). It’s still entertaining and will listen to his follow up after the series.

Most of the online crushers are duds. Great at the game, unable or unwilling to talk in depth about it... which would be fine if they had other interesting stuff to talk about for 2+ hours but they don’t. Ffs look at the cumicon interview.

There’s only so much poker content the average viewer can consume. And if we we’re going by view counts it’s obvious that more people choose to watch a hs stream vs an interview with recent mtt winner or online crusher. It’s simply more entertaining and informative.

You’re welcome for the input Joey
i mean then watch Hand breakdowns if thats your thing but look at any great podcasts its not all wheat there is gonna be some chaff. look at joe rogans as great as some of his are there is always gonna be duds. you gotta judge the body of work.

i disagree with your assessment also maybe its your young age that your not able to enjoy interviews that arent flashy or quick distraction. i personally find hand breakdowns to be the most boring and live table streams that arent ultra high stakes are awfully boring ( wsop final table i guess too)

sometimes its interesting just to see how other successful people think , maybe your not at an age that you can appreciate it yet.
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06-03-2019 , 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by upswinging
Briefly skimmed his content.. the quality isn’t good because most of the people he’s interviewing won’t be relevant in a few years, so why watch or listen? At least try to cover the biggest games (triton) and get some of the players or even commentators on your podcast. The only interesting pods are jungleman and they’re too few and far between.

It’s also weird that he’s going into great detail about bots and shady poker sites. That bs has been going on for years, particularly on ACR, so why is he ranting about old news? If his podcast grew organically then his podcasts would be very dif ever since hsdb came out, but he chose to sweep truly juicy clickbait under the rug

For the love of god just stop posting, you're making a fool of yourself.

Joey's podcast is still the best pod in the game. It's the only free poker related content I watch religiously. If you enjoy high roller tournaments and watching AQ vs 66 coin flips that's totally fine, maybe the pod isn't for you. I'd personally rather watch paint dry.

On a much more exciting note, do you have any idea when Gus will be on Joey?
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06-03-2019 , 11:29 PM
Hi Joey Thanks 4 all You have done and do in the Poker community and I hope You have a Great Day Peace . . .
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06-05-2019 , 10:31 PM
What happened to the Gus pod? I thought it was meant to be on Monday.
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06-06-2019 , 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by upswinging
Most of the online crushers are duds. Great at the game, unable or unwilling to talk in depth about it... which would be fine if they had other interesting stuff to talk about for 2+ hours but they don’t. Ffs look at the cumicon interview.
Hindsight is 20/20.

How can you know someone doesn't have anything to say until after you talk to them? lol
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06-06-2019 , 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by dogarse
What happened to the Gus pod? I thought it was meant to be on Monday.
see @therealgushansen IG story

also upswinging just stop posting plz

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06-06-2019 , 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by upswinging
His old podcasts had much better content vs his new ones even though the production quality is better vs his first pods. Interviewing recent high stakes mtt winners isn’t interesting. Guys like Alex and Fedor etc are really young and lack experiences to have interesting stories to tell on a live podcast. Not insulting, just that very young people don’t have enough interesting things to talk about for 3+ hours.

Most of the online crushers are duds. Great at the game, unable or unwilling to talk in depth about it... which would be fine if they had other interesting stuff to talk about for 2+ hours but they don’t. Ffs look at the cumicon interview.
Hard disagree on both points. Go0se, Foxen, makeboifin, and OhHeyCindy have all been some of my favorite pods in recent memory.
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06-06-2019 , 03:33 PM
The one stand out for me was that guy who made 7 milly and retired. I've never seen anything ever of someone so successful and yet I felt so bad for him and even if I was poor I wouldn't have traded places with him. That was unique.
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06-06-2019 , 08:27 PM
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Hindsight is 20/20.

How can you know someone doesn't have anything to say until after you talk to them? lol
you don't have to have someone on a podcast to know whether or not they'd make an interesting interviews.

some people are really fun,interesting and really good telling stories and some aren't.
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06-06-2019 , 09:06 PM
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Guys like Alex and Fedor etc are really young and lack experiences to have interesting stories to tell on a live podcast.
I'm not sure age has that much to do with it. I never thought I could listen to anyone be interviewed for two hours but I remember once someone linked to a particular story in the middle of the Dan Colman pod. I clicked on it just to here that one topic, was so fascinated I listened right to the end, and then went back to the start to catch up on everything I missed. Fantastic pod and ever since then I've been hooked and I don't think Dan was much older than Alex or Fedor at the time.

If he ever comes to Vegas I reckon an amazing guy to get on would be Elton Tsang. Plays in the biggest games and based on his Calvin Ayre interview seems quite willing to open up and talk a lot about his experiences.

I'm not sure about other people but for me the thing I'm most interested in is the ultra high stakes cash games. Who is playing in them, who is winning, who is losing, who is being staked, who is having success, what stakes are they playing etc. I know it's difficult to get solid info on them but whenever we have a guest (like Jungle, or Barry, Jakoon or Berkey) who give away little snippets of insight into that world I get all hard.
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06-06-2019 , 09:23 PM
a pod series featuring struggling poker players would be cool. papi gto investigates why they're losing and what their life is like.

i'd also like to see guys like FoxwoodsFiend and Krantz. iirc ariel was on the pod a few years ago and it was almost life changing to watch.
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