it blows my mind that you get legit "tilted" about this scumbag site doing exactly what everybody knows a scumbag site does. i dont play there, why the **** would i "speak loudly" about anything they're doing? it's an unregulated overseas poker operator, not sure if you realized this by now but you ain't got no recourse brah, so best to probably just leave that **** alone

Agree

This is what all my friends tell me every time I get myself worked up over it.

+Rep and your friends are morons. Making a video to shove up Phil Naggy's ass every now and then is good for the community. At most it can effect real change, at the very least it will get more people to realize wtf is up with WPN. A lot of people don't read 2+2, many of them might not of noticed not getting refunds from cancelled mtts/blitz or that they logged 1000s of hands with bots.

Everyone complains about stars and the rake but at least we can play safe poker, the American options seem a joke.

well i'm gonna say this with a disclaimer that i'm not trying to fire shots, i got no type of saltiness towards you or anything like that, but ever since you went through that manic episode of grinding .05/.10 plo and cataloging bots on ACR or whatever the hell it was you were doing, the podcast game has gone way downhill. it's almost like you're trying to be a parody of yourself with the weirdly intense up-on-adderall-for-3-days schtick, regular callbacks to blowing your roll on drugs in a hotel room some years ago, and like the most recent jungleman pod for example- dude is a legend and a HOF guest, but you couldn't control or direct the convo very effectively, you spend a lot of time rambling and paraphrasing what he just said, and definitely missed a bunch of prime spots for EZ followup questions. 40 minutes in and i haven't really learned a single thing but i've been left wanting to know more about a variety of topics that were briefly touched on. that ****ing hat, too. sorry, lol.

now, i understand that this is potentially not so black and white. jungleman seems to possess very little brain-->mouth filtering system, and i know he's said some things that he maybe shouldn't have on previous pods, lol. so i can understand if you don't want to try and lead him into some topics for that reason- maybe he's even mentioned a few things beforehand that he doesn't want to elaborate much on. and i also understand that you treat these pods more like casual conversations than formal interviews. i dig. but to me, somebody who plays for a living still and has enjoyed watching these pods for years, it seems like you've just been steadily losing interest and the content has gone downhill a bit. as an outsider looking in, it's pretty clear that this ACR stuff has been fueling some depression and anxiety in you, and that it's a net negative for your life and your podcasting game. your whole aura is different nowadays bro. i mean, sucks to lose confidence in your game integrity (tbh i'm surprised it took this long for bad actors to realize how insanely profitable colluding in PLO is), but it is what it is and you either got to adapt or you're gonna get chewed up.

honestly i have little interest in criticizing and it's hard for me really to say much because i wish nothing but the best for you and hope that whatever you're doing is making you happy. but if you think you're going to bring about big changes and reforms over at ACR, then i want you to start sharing some of those drugs. and if the end game that you're working towards is even less clear, then what the **** are you even doing man? cut that **** out.

yeah pokerstars is a joke too, i cannot even get a reply from stars after 21 days of waiting. i know people waiting more than a month+, some people claiming 2 months to respond to 1 email. account and money are locked. amazing customer service, billion dollar company!

I think most of that is pretty spot on. Not sure what the first part about a parody of myself means exactly though lol I'm usually just being myself.

The Jungleman pod was a bit different because Jungle had just been assaulted and I know he couldn't reveal many details about the first 45 mins worth of questioning so I didn't follow up in certain spots. He has def said too much in the past podcasts and I don't want to have that happen again w/ him.

100% the ACR stuff ruined my love of online poker, it was my life up until that point. I'm not sure what my life really is at this point. I'm just doing random things to some degree of success or failure it feels like.

Sasha says the same thing about my aura, appearance and overall attitude when I am doing content. I had much more life to me before I moved to Vegas and before ACR happened. It will pass at some point and I think that point is when I finally put all that **** behind me and probably put online poker behind me.

These past 2 months I was pretty locked in & focused for the first 5 weeks or so but the past 2 weeks I've felt different again. I think most of the podcasts & my content have been pretty strong but I know for certain parts I wasn't feeling it very much. My interest in certain conversation topics isn't what it used to be as online poker has faded out of my life. The topics I find the most interesting & enjoy talking about the most never come up on the current form of the podcast I am doing whereas years ago I was ONLY interested in talking all things poker life/mindset. It's something I've been trying to figure out w/ myself and what I want to do moving forward. I still love playing PLO but I know that the future is very bad w/ online PLO.

I told myself I would focus again on poker content until WSOP ends and then decide what I want to do moving ahead. I probably should be creating a bit more in-depth knowledge based non-strategic poker content that I can research and put together in some type of investigative form but we shall see.

exactly. no support at all, and if they answer they dont read the mail. they just answer back with a copied reply: reset user file or reinstall stars.

and somehow lately information on table is wrong for me too. it says a player has folded and he is dimmed at the table and then somehow he is still in the hand. this has happened so much i pretty much cannot play, but support isnt answering or its the standard copied response.

safe poker no ****ing way, its going down the drain

Justifying your irresponsibility with the irresponsibility of WPN isn’t how it works.

I’m not sure why everyone is bashing you. This community is really sad sometimes. Your doing a good job and still enjoy the pods. Don’t waste time justifying yourself your doing fine and put out a entertaining product.

whoops shouldnt have said that, now they doomswitched me. they are a lot quicker with that

I’m interested in the final paragraph: what knowledge based non-strategic poker content topics are we talking about?

In regards the earlier paragraph, what conversation topics are you most interested in currently? I’ve followed the channel since inception and still get as much out of the conversations as at the start.

With regards to the content since you came back. I have 1 main opinion: that ALLinpav seems an *******

+1

I’d argue that blindly making accusations such as WPN is stealing money from players, without any type of evidence, is doing more harm to the community than good.

Enjoy arguing that to yourself while mass tabling ACR. The site is a disaster.

This is in reference to any posts related to ACR.

It isn't that big of a deal. The poker world is so boring. These types of posts make it a bit more enjoyable. I don't mind people trying to defend what they see as a last hope to play online poker. I wish they made a bit better arguments and gave me a smarter perspective on the other side of things rather than working in random name calling.

I'm probably not handling the situation as best as it could be. These guys seem to understand it all so maybe they can enlighten me. They never actually acknowledge what I say or where I am coming from but just keep repeating over and over about making the title of the video something different.

Maybe I should name it ACR's new software is a disaster.


There are a number of different video format ideas that I would rather not talk a lot about on the forums that involve general poker/poker site/poker mindset topics that can be researched in-depth. They would end up taking hours and hours of research + story outlining + video editing. An example might be - why is poker/gambling so addicting?

Good question - I'll have to think more about it.

I don’t mass table ACR so there’s that....

Also, I’m not discussing the software issues, I’m talking about your baseless claim that the network is stealing player funds.

Stop moving the goalposts.

Stealing is hyperbole currently, but if it came out that there was mass internal cheating and stealing of players funds from ACR, it would be not very surprising at all

I’m sorry, but someone who has such a following can’t claim hyperbole when referencing stealing and online poker. That’s a very serious accusation that shouldn’t be tossed out to the masses lightly. That is why I claimed this latest video was extremely irresponsible.

But whatever, I’m over it, I’ve said my peace and Joey will continue putting this kind of stuff out no matter what anyone says.

I thought you produced Poker content for fun? I thought you were grinding mid hs plo?

lolol wpn has allowed bots since like 2007 and just released a "solution" in the form of unfinished software for its players to test with real money

but joey is the bad guy

wtf is wrong with you people? that rake race the only job you can get?

I guess you haven't watched or paid close attention in over a year.

It was that way until the ACR stuff went down. I've played here and there online since and the same for live poker here in LV.

I did start off making content for fun, to help grow PLOOO and help people get great players out there to the poker world. Almost everyone I am close w/ has told me for years I should take things more serious and actually try to make money from what I do and treat it like a business. I still love talking poker and playing PLO. I also have a lot of fun still doing content but I don't feel like I have a direction. The direction I set out for I achieved years ago w/ the podcast & content. The answer probably lies in doing more type of stuff I enjoy aka PLO and the Real Poker Talk videos.

lol this is the way I feel about it, I feel like I'm taking ****ing crazy pills here. People are more upset I titled a video than w/ ACR. It's a very small minority but nonetheless. I do enjoy hearing their perspectives because you can tell they are desperate to keep ACR a thing which makes sense. ACR isn't going anywhere because I made a video asking if they are stealing money from players that has 7,000 views.

+rep is spot on as always. It's a briefcase type operation, a joke of a CEO/owner, secretary and a flower. Its ok to discuss things going on there, but you continuing to whiteknight for the players is similar to you taking that Pokestars offer, misdirected and fumbled...your good intentions are not the issue , no one is disputing that.

Apparently people didn't learn from Black Friday about the woes and end result of online poker sites operating illegally and without oversight...

Lol shut the **** up with that salty, jaded bull****

So your assertion is that because WPN has made bad business decisions in the past that you should be able to make bold faced false assertions against them in an attempt to damage their reputation even further simply because you have beef with their owner or the site itself?

Is that what I’m reading?

And let me guess, you see nothing wrong with that?

Also, fwiw, I have never defended WPN for their previous idescretions, nor defended their ridiculous software rollout.