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04-14-2014 , 04:35 PM

#1426

Ray Horton

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And it worked!

04-14-2014 , 04:38 PM

#1427

Chuck Bass

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Nooo why was Joffrey killed, best character gone

show is gonna go downhill now.

04-14-2014 , 04:38 PM

#1428

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lattimer

I'm just being respectful of the posters who may not want the micro-analysis we're all doing... especially since it's very possible that the screen captures floating around originated from a bookreader. I know in the LOST thread the screen capture thing was done all the time, but there were also no guarantees that the mysteries on that show would ever be explained (like the recent "who shot at Sawyer's boat"), so nothing was "ruined".

This by a lot, better safe then sorry with this thread.

04-14-2014 , 04:39 PM

#1429

shakalakashakaboom

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JonnyA

Agreed - it seems there is a good chance that a bookreader put together the screen caps. For the same reason that we don't want book readers arguing for one theory here (even if only based on stuff they have shown on the show) I think these screen caps and the discussion should be spoilered.

Good point. I'm glad I stuck with the spoiler tags.

04-14-2014 , 04:42 PM

#1430

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Our House

Marg had access to the cup before Joffrey drank from it a 2nd time. Poison killed that old guy who tried to poison Lady Melissandre in season 2 within 30 seconds. Sansa has no part of what I said.

I completely misread Marg for Sansa. Sorry.

04-14-2014 , 04:43 PM

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roy_miami

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JonnyA

Its been addressed. My view is that the fact that Joffrey drinks before cutting the pie negates that. I don't think posion can kill in thirty seconds, but take a few minutes to take effect. Also, the fact that Sansa only had access to the cup by chance makes it unlikely.

I think it has to either be the pie or someone put posion in his cup while he was cutting the pie (and thus only the drink after he had the pie killed him).

If its the same poison that the dude tried to off Lady Milisendra with it can. I could go back and time it (and I might) but it seems the time it took to kill him and the time it took to kill joff after eating the pie were about in line. Don't remember if the symptoms were the same but I do remember blood coming out his nose and stuff.

Wanted to just say that the actor playing Joff really had playing the prick role nailed. I hated Joff obviously but I still appreciate the acting job.

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04-14-2014 , 04:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrtrebus

I'm pretty sad we won't get Tywin vs Joffrey

Maybe that was Tywin vs Joffrey.

04-14-2014 , 04:52 PM

#1433

palmpalm83

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Agree sansa wasn't involved either, and if she did I'd like to imagine her lording it over him / laughing in his face as he died to let out all her pent up anger Haha.

I'm not putting to much importance on the time frame of the poison either

04-14-2014 , 04:52 PM

#1434

Ray Horton

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Devils Advocating for #teamOlenna,

I guess I could see her with Tywin next episode, explaining to him that Joff's death changes nothing and they still need each other. So Marg should marry Tommen--who is (from what we can gather) much less of a factor than Joff was. Marg has been building goodwill with the people Dany-style and could easily assume a more prominent role w/Tom than w/Joff.

04-14-2014 , 04:53 PM

#1435

Our House

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Thanks, Nick. Can you post the next 2 or 3 frames also? That's where it looks like it happens. Then again, they might have done that to throw us off too.

04-14-2014 , 04:59 PM

#1436

Nick Royale

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Our House

Thanks, Nick. Can you post the next 2 or 3 frames also? That's where it looks like it happens. Then again, they might have done that to throw us off too.

I could but there's not much to see. I agree that when you watch that segment in motion it looks fishy but there's no evidence of anything in the caps.

04-14-2014 , 05:01 PM

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If a book reader put together that whole screencap thing then **** them. I still don't believe it was Olenna just because it makes no sense from a strategic point of view.

04-14-2014 , 05:02 PM

#1438

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Regardless of who did it, do you think there is any way Tyrion survives this?

Unless someone else admits to doing it, I don't see how he avoids being found guilty of this - in addition to having the cup, he's threatened Joffrey on a number of occassions.

04-14-2014 , 05:06 PM

#1439

Nick Royale

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Originally Posted by JonnyA

Seems like there are plenty of possible suspects so I think he has a decent chance.

04-14-2014 , 05:07 PM

#1440

Ray Horton

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JonnyA

Tywin could step in; Tyrion is his key to the North. That's the imp's only shot.

04-14-2014 , 05:08 PM

#1441

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JonnyA

That would depend on if the poison was in the wine or the pie, which shouldn't be too hard to prove.

04-14-2014 , 05:09 PM

#1442

WittyName26

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At the least, it seems that Tyrion will most certainly have to leave KL at this point, if he survives at all

04-14-2014 , 05:10 PM

#1443

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray Horton

Tywin could step in; Tyrion is his key to the North. That's the imp's only shot.

1) Not if he's lost Sansa.

2) If not, he could force Sansa to remarry another Lannister (if not Jamie then he could marry Sansa himself or have his brother do it).

04-14-2014 , 05:10 PM

#1444

sputnik3000

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Anyone here think that Theon is faking it? Hes obv damaged but how far down into Ramseys pocket is he? He seems to have trouble seeing the girl get killed and then he seems to contemplate if he actually should use the razor when he gets the news of Robs death.

04-14-2014 , 05:10 PM

#1445

TheChamp11

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Tyrion definitely survives

04-14-2014 , 05:15 PM

#1446

ShowUthExit

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seems very likely that if ramsay and theon catch up to bran, that will be the time theon snaps back and kills bastard boltan.

04-14-2014 , 05:17 PM

#1447

Huehuecoyotl

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"poison is a woman's weapon." I thought this was a GoT quote from season 1 or 2 but I can't find it was in the books or mentioned in the show or if I'm just thinking it's a general idea I'm imposing onto GoT.

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04-14-2014 , 05:22 PM

#1448

roy_miami

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I thought Bolton was half joking when he said he picked the fattest Frey daughter...

04-14-2014 , 05:26 PM

#1449

Swalker

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Grunching a bit but wasn't pycell sent back to the kitchen to notify the staff that the leftovers be sent to the kennels?

04-14-2014 , 05:31 PM

#1450

Chrizza

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

S1E4:

Ned: I've heard it said that poison is a woman's weapon.
Grand Maester: Yes, women, cravens and eunuchs. Did you know that Lord Varys is a eunuch?

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