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07-24-2012 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by emitnulB
I'd only limp is bb is really passive. He's going to be raising wide and we aren't going to call him oop with this hand.
BB is not raising wide here unless you have a read we don't? If he is, limp/jam. He's less than 50 bb.
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07-24-2012 , 06:08 PM
Why would he not raise wide? We're obviously weak and limp/jamming here is only going to be +ev if he levels himself into a fold seeing as it's such an off the wall play.
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07-24-2012 , 06:41 PM
Random half stacked BBs at 1/2 are not raising us wide.
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07-24-2012 , 10:37 PM
this is the thread that hand came from. pretty hilarious.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/39...le-fe-1224520/
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07-25-2012 , 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by emitnulB
Why would he not raise wide?
ummm...why would he? UTG's not folding, he's out of position. Not only that, I'm going based of experience, most people simply don't raise really wide here.

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We're obviously weak and limp/jamming here is only going to be +ev if he levels himself into a fold seeing as it's such an off the wall play.
So, he's going to raise really wide, but we can't jam if he does because he's going to call?

Also, if this is a spot people should be raising really wide in the BB and, in fact, are raising really wide, why can't we be strong?
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07-25-2012 , 11:02 AM
5/10 30bb game. The table is uncharacteristically passive, lots of limping. I have about $1300 in front, have 2x the chips as anyone else at the table and am being the table captain. My raises are rarely getting called and my Cbets are taking it down 90% of the time.

I'm BB. 4 limpers to SB who minraises to $20. I have 3 5

SB has about $300 and is a ~45 year old doctor, really nice guy, is running bad/getting it in bad this session and is visible frustrated. He's pretty competent at times, not sure he's thinking much about the game in his current state though.

I flat the minraise as does all the other limpers.

Flop ($120): 3 Q 9

Sb checks, I check(?), everyone else checks.

Turn ($120): 3 Q 9 2

Sb leads for $100. I fold(?)
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07-25-2012 , 11:12 AM
what are the other stacks. I just b/c the flop against just about anyone I guess.

turn I fold.
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07-25-2012 , 11:16 AM
Yeah that would probably help. They're all between $200-$400 iirc.
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07-25-2012 , 11:17 AM
I also would like a flop bet, and it was my initial inclination, then I remembered there's 5 players to act and just thought "**** it."
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07-25-2012 , 03:05 PM
6way i would just check flop, betting turns sometimes like this man

turn...he's going to have TT or JJ here ever? AKhh? He'll b/c all those hands and rarely
have bluffs so i'd fold
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07-25-2012 , 03:48 PM
I probably would have just played it the same, looking to raise/get it in vs most otf. Of course once they all check and then the turn comes, I'd fold here.

Betting flop is best I suppose though.
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07-25-2012 , 05:46 PM
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07-27-2012 , 08:43 PM
200NL at the Dog Track.

9-handed. Weak game, lots of limping, but pfrs get called unless you make it ~10x. I've been fairly tight and card dead but won a big pot 10 mins ago at showdown.

UTG: Folds
Hero (UTG+1): (~360): 33 calls $2 (see above)
MP1: (~45) calls $2 (super fish, on tilt from another hand)
Folds around
SB: (~190) calls $1 (okay, nothing special, fairly typical player here, but not a donk either)
BB: (~100) checks (super fish #2, also on tilt from my earlier hand, also mad that I caught him bluffing otr in another hand, recently rebought)

Flop: ($8) 993

SB: check, BB: check, Hero: Bets $5, MP1: fold, SB: calls $5, BB: fold

Turn: ($18) 5

SB: check, Hero: Bets $10, SB: calls $10

River: ($38) J

SB: bets $30, Hero: raises (?) $30 to $60, SB: shoves for $135, Hero: ?? ($75 to call)

Some thoughts: I bet flop because 1) they rarely put me on FH, 2) two fish are in the hand who will call/raise wide, 3) SB looks interested 4) to build a pot obv. Turn same thing. When SB calls turn I'm fairly sure he has a 9 or maybe a FD. River: when he bets $30 he obv has a 9. I min-raised his bet (after a little thought) because I figure he never folds a 9 to my minraise.

Thoughts on the river minraise, and um what now?

Last edited by Doublez-Down; 07-27-2012 at 08:49 PM.
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07-27-2012 , 08:50 PM
Flop: I'd bet more. 6-8. Although even more is probably fine.

Turn: I'd bet close to pot. 9x is never folding, fd's are folding, and who knows what else they can call with.

River kinda sucks. But it's going to be a much larger mistake to fold the best hand than call with the worst imo. Hope he's over playing A9 or some other 9x. Also, it should be a much easier decision b/c your bet sizing on flop and turn should have made the pot bigger and second, you should have just shoved over his lead on the river.
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07-27-2012 , 08:52 PM
ur quick...I already edited my response.
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07-27-2012 , 11:40 PM
Bet more on every street. River kind of sucks but I call. Also I'd raise more on the river.
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07-29-2012 , 12:41 PM
5/10 30bb game. I'm new to the table, have $300 in front.

Villain 1 is otb, he's a middle aged white guy who plays way too many hands, tilts easily, isn't a joy to have at the table because of his attitude but will give away money from time to time. Covers.

Villain 2 is BB, he's a middle aged indian guy, CPA. He's pretty aggro for a recreational player, goes on pretty big swings. Covers.

I'm in MP, guy next to me limps and I limp behind with Q 9. BTN makes it $35. BB flats the $35, limper folds and I call.

Flop ($110): J T 4

BB checks. Plan is to C/R or C/Shove over BTN's continuation bet. BTN checks behind instead.

Turn: 3

BB now leads out for $75. I jam for $265 total.

Thoughts?

Last edited by crackedquads; 07-29-2012 at 12:50 PM.
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07-29-2012 , 12:50 PM
Hand #2

5/10 30 bb game. I have about $800 in front.

Villain 1 is on my left, he's a ~35yo asian guy. I've recognize him but no history between us. He's hasn't seen very aggro, hasn't 3b me and has probably called 1 of my raises prior to this in which we did not get to showdown. Has about $450.

Villain 2 is a reg/semireg. A middle aged Russian guy whose decent. He's up a ton for the day (saw him crushing another 5/10 table earlier). Not much hand history between us that I can remember, but we're fairly friendly with each other, occasionally show eachother hands or talk about them after they're over. Overall he's not much of a talker at the table though. He did flat call one of my raises with 53ss from the BB in a heads up pot. He flopped bottom pair on a monotone board (and 4 flush turn) and we checked it all the way down. Has about $800 in front.

I open the CO with QJo to $30. BTN (Villain 1) flat calls. BB (Villain 2) flat calls.

Flop ($95): K Q 3

Villain 2 thinks for about 15 seconds and checks. I do the same. Villain 1 checks as well.

Turn: 5

Villain 2 again thinks for about 15 seconds before checking. I bet $50. Villain 1 flat calls, villain 2 flat calls.

River ($245): T

Villain 2 checks, I check, Villain 1 bets $110. Villain 2 tanks and folds.

Hero?
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07-29-2012 , 01:43 PM
hand 1, i like

hand 2, why didn't you cbet? as played, i'd fold the river
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07-29-2012 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by dipstikdave
hand 1, i like

hand 2, why didn't you cbet? as played, i'd fold the river
i agree on hand 1
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07-29-2012 , 10:08 PM
Hand 1: I'd raise pre. I'd be tempted to fold once the original limper folds. Guess if both button and BB are loose calling is fine but with 30 bbs Q9s just doesn't play that great when you are OOP to the original raiser.

How often do you think he cbets? Is he iso'ing a ton? CR is certainly fine under most conditions. I'd probably just bet if I think he's checking back a decent amount of the time. Betting the flop sets up a nice turn shove if you get one caller. Turn is a tough spot. It's unlikely he's folding a better draw and obviously not folding his jacks or something better. Higher diamonds, high spades, even KQ will probably sigh call a decent amount of the time. I think you have enough implied odds to just call turn and pray you hit.
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07-30-2012 , 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Ditch Digger
Hand 1: I'd raise pre. I'd be tempted to fold once the original limper folds. Guess if both button and BB are loose calling is fine but with 30 bbs Q9s just doesn't play that great when you are OOP to the original raiser.

How often do you think he cbets? Is he iso'ing a ton? CR is certainly fine under most conditions. I'd probably just bet if I think he's checking back a decent amount of the time. Betting the flop sets up a nice turn shove if you get one caller. Turn is a tough spot. It's unlikely he's folding a better draw and obviously not folding his jacks or something better. Higher diamonds, high spades, even KQ will probably sigh call a decent amount of the time. I think you have enough implied odds to just call turn and pray you hit.
BTN isn't iso'ing at all probably, he's really just going to be playing his cards. I think he's prone to cbet most flops simply because if he's raising pre he actually has a hand. He's def cbetting all overpairs, AJ, KQ, maybe AT and sets. Im not sure if he cbets AK or AQ in this spot.

Agree that the shortness makes this spot kind of awkward, maybe should just flat the turn and see what develops. Feels so nitty though if I'm playing this hand in the first place.
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08-01-2012 , 04:54 PM
Line check time. 5/10 30bb game.

Hero: $1300
Villain 1: ~$700
Villain 2: ~$1100

My table is suddenly super laggy. I've been here about 6 hours but in the last 20 mins or so two probably drunk friends/semi friends sat down for some action after leaving a 2/5 game. Within 10 hands there's been all ins on at least 80% of these hands, with villain 2 winning almost all of them, now being up 800 within an orbit or so.

Villain 2 is super loose, is raising or limp/calling anything, ESP vs his buddy who is spewing money.

Villain 1 is a super nit, he's probably 80+ years old.

Unfortunately I have to leave, I'm playing my last hand utg and get dealt QQ.

I open to $50 from seat 10. Villain 1 is in seat one on my left and flat calls. His range is something like AK, AQss, TT/JJ/QQ/ maybe even KK and AA if he thinks someone behind us will 3b lightly.

Another older nit flat calls, super lagg new player who is spewing flat calls, and SB (villain 2) flat calls.

Flop: (~$255) 2 6 9

SB checks, I bet $175. Villain 1 flat calls, folds to sb (V2) who also flat calls.

Turn : (~$780) 9

Sb checks. I tank and elect to check. There's probably no 9s in v1s range unless he has quads, but there is def 9x in sbs range. I don't know if I should be checking here though as the board is still pretty wet and there's a lot of bad river cards. Maybe bet/folding vs villain 1 and bet/? Vs sb would be better?

Villain 1 checks behind. At this point I'm almost certain v1 has TT or JJ, maybe AKss or AQss. Sbs river action should telle what he has.

River: 5

Sb checks. I put him on a bricked draw and while he's prob folding 99% of the time, I can get some
Value out of sbs likely smaller pairs.

I bet $250. Thoughts? Go larger on the river? Check river? Barrel the turn?
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08-01-2012 , 06:12 PM
Bet the turn ffs, you should be able to tell ~instnatly if some drunk youngin has 9 or better

I'd bet the river a little larger like 300-350.
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08-01-2012 , 06:21 PM
I'd bet the turn and probably not fold to some rando drunk. As played I'd probably bet around the same amount since that's perfect sizing to get Villain 1 to call and it might induce drunk guy.
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