imo the time to act should be shortened, as well as timebanks, but maybe add x seconds per level instead of starting with x minutes. It is not as much a problem in mtts as sngs where regs play 30 tables and take 15 seconds to fold every time, but still a problem.

fields are dying from bad promotions (no scoop reload bonus). Spins are here to stay i guess. Time to study even harder guys we can make it!!! to all the regs who cant beat the games, check out the marketplace!!! they will make sure you stay in action!!!

lol, they offer a deposit bonus based on the spin n go payouts:

www.pokerstars.eu/poker/promotions/mega-bonus
the 100k can be win in 1 of 100k cases, so that alone is 1$ in EV.
1.25$ EV for the 25% chance to 5$ bonus etc.

not that bad imho, at least it's catering for recreationals rather than 600$ deposit people.



In terms of missing players, I want to adress the 0.11$ MTT again that did not even get 4000 runners, just while MicroMillions was on .
Where did this players go? Do they rather pay 1.5$ for a Spin n Go? Were there a lot in Portugal? Do these players even care for things like reload bonuses?

For comparison, MM04, a 0.11$ Rebuy got a 23k pool (179k rebuys @ 40k runners)
but on a Saturday before the MM Main-Event there are not enough people online to fill a 0.11$ 4k man?

Basically there are overlays at all levels, where I have never seen one before (0.11$, 1$R 3x-T, 11$ Storm, Big 109$) prior to let's say... before Amaya bought it.

BTW: How many tables of Spin n gos at any levels are running? Was there ever a figure of games played in a day?

Losing all Portugese players clearly wont help the prizepools and hopefully when they return in october GTDs will increase.

Will be calling it the medium 109 if this trend continues.

Oh and all this crying over the timebank not heard such nonsense in a while.

Gtd are down because of regulation and spin and goes.

Imagine if the USA France Spain Italy and Portugal all came back to the global player pool tomorrow.

We can but dream.

Luke:

I haven't seen a single MTT promo (like the Carnivals or WCOOP Challenge) this year.

I know many guys in my country who are semi-regs. I am sure this profile of players (who wont play spins or any casino games) together with a higher % of recs would jump immeditately if offered something different and juicier.

Why don't you try a single day a "double GTD day" in all tournaments? Call it Crazy Monday and see how it does. I am 100% you won't lose much in worst scenario and you are likely to win big.

It is time to assume a more agressive strategy on weekdays before most tournaments go even smaller and become unattractive and boring for everyone.

PD: Another option, Golden MTTs, after late reg period is over a screen will show whteher tournament is 1x, 2x or 3x prize pool (it's added money that might be easily recovered by the extra rake generated via increased numbers in all MTTs)

Promo thing is handled by different team, post in pokerstars promtions suggestions/feedback thread:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...66/index5.html

I read when they came out that there were 7.3 million spin and goes played in the first 10 days and cash game traffic dropped 12-16% in the first week. Its understandable why they would attract even more recreationals who were playing mtts.

Action being faster is definitely part of why spins have taken so many players from mtts so I dont see a problem with changing the time bank or time before the time bank starts is some way.

You have a 20bb stack. Someone doesn't come back from break, and in a 10 minute level, 4 of those minutes are spent with their time bank going down because they put an ante in the pot. How do you feel?

You're nearing the bubble with a 30bb stack and eyeing a final table, when half the players at the table start using their 4 minute time bank every single hand on every single street. You play 1 hand every 4 minutes and by the time the bubble bursts, your 30bb stack is now 10bb. How do you feel?

You time out pocket aces 20 times a session because there is no auto timebank, How do you feel?? Leave our precious auto timebank alone.

Im fine thanks for asking.

If you want to go on your timebank mission ok w/e. I made my post while everyone was discussing the lowered GTDs and how the timebanks make zero difference to them.

I generally play 12-16 tables and hardly use my timebank so it wouldn't even affect me much. Just pointing out how much of a minor issue it is in the grand scheme of the poker landscape at this time.

You do also realise that every grinder that takes forever to act has table ninja 2 as well and that automatically evokes the timebank so stars changing it will make zero difference.

A good promotion would be nice, even something simple like win two bigs in a month/week/day for a big cash prize, something to entice a few more recs back to the game and add a bit of excitement

I know most are tired of the PKO's but I think it would be awesome if there were 2 Sunday Storms with 250k guarantee and one was a PKO. Turn the donkfest into a major donkfest. Fun gamble.

PS luke post is overdue, where you at sir?

Busy dropping them guarantees ldo

fighting through 30k plus player field to turn 10$ into 20k is not enough gamble for you? NO! Of course not, lets turn it into a PSKO so the amount of skill required to make a decent score drops even more...

Are there even PKO that are not PSKO?

That's why I said in addition to the regular Sunday Storm. If you don't like them, just don't play. You slap a 250k guarantee on it and I'm sure it'll get 25,000 runners.

Bounties after a couple hours would be fun. And the Sunday Storm is meant for fun.

Yeah i don't think you can just add 25k players alongside the sunday storm and just expect no tournaments to be cannibalized..... We don't need a 11$ PSKO major.

Sunday's are close to perfect atm in this current climate.

I think making the 109$ turbo psko into the Sunday PSKO and replacing it with a deeper structure would be huge.

Question to luke.. Is there any thought to promoting Saturdays in anyway? Is the 2day going to happen?

Just want to point out that the storm has been 275k for a month or two.

lol

If we were on FTP, Sunday Brawl would be perfect for PKO.

Plus one to Saturdays becoming better...... 2 Dayer!!

23:00 pm ET 8.80 6max turbo down from 4 to 3k.
00:45 pm ET $27 turbo down from 6 to 5k.

Can you actually prove that was necessary? I struggle to believe these two tournaments were overlaying. Or the hot $22. Will these gtds be raised when Portugal is back?

If you're timing out ANY hand 20 times a session then you're playing too many tables and are therefore a ****ing *******.

lol @ timing out with aces because you can't play poker fast enough.

Maybe make some of the BIGs and HOTs PSKO? Would be cool.

Also, hopefully the Summer Leaderboard for tournaments returns for next summer, it is literally the only reason why I'm playing in the summer time, and why I'm playing MTTs. I think many can relate.