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05-25-2015 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ORLY???
So no high stakes saturday 2-day event until after the summer, tough bryan said it would be implemented after scoop. I'd really like to hear the reasoning behind this..
Because a lot of people who would play a high stakes 2 day event are in vegas during the summer?
05-25-2015 , 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Sect7G
Totally agree with this post. It's not players that don't like rebuys, it's just they haven't been given a fair shake. Take any non labelled tourney on Stars and tomorrow make it red and don't change the guarantee and within a week the prize pool will double.

Why haven't rebuy tourneys gotten any labelling? Instead we've seen a massive amount of new tourneys added to the schedule all labelled in red and for some reason they all seem to be turbo's or PSKO's or a combination of both. These tourneys are far more profitable to Stars then rebuys. And all of them will take players from other tourneys scheduled in similar time frames.

The line that players don't want rebuys is absurd. Pokerstars doesn't want rebuys.
Soepgroente also makes a good point but this is absolutely right. Spot on imo.
05-26-2015 , 12:02 AM
Yeah dont get the decision either about the 700 two dayer? I know people are gone but its not everyone. It will def still be success.

1. Mini Thrill Mini super tuesday
2. 700 two dayer?
3. Mini Supersonic? Hey man its late in the day we are all down the farm need another miracle lol
4. Fix rebuys? early antes?
5. big 82 big 215? dont see how putting the big 215 daily into the schedule would do any harm?
05-26-2015 , 12:47 AM
We were told by BryanPS that both the saturday 2day hs tournament and new bigs would be added after scoop... Really disappointing if it doesnt happen.

Also Mini thrill on wednesdays asap please.
05-26-2015 , 03:18 AM
Actually the daily "Storm" series over at ps.fr just as successful as any Big/Hot etc tourney producing the same nr. of entrants regardless the fact rebuys and addons also raked there though.
05-26-2015 , 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by juddy96
Because a lot of people who would play a high stakes 2 day event are in vegas during the summer?
Thats why they should have done it way earlier. Anyway they don't have to slap a big gtd on it, so still dont get it
05-26-2015 , 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ORLY???
Thats why they should have done it way earlier. Anyway they don't have to slap a big gtd on it, so still dont get it
wait, u re not leaving to vegas? ffs man...
05-26-2015 , 05:55 AM
Really disappointing if we have to wait until august/september for the introduction of the big215 and Saturday 2-day. They were actually considered to be added in late April, but then the decition was made to wait until SCOOP was over. Now the argument is to wait because of the slow traffic during the summer months. And we get to August, with WCOOP getting closer, then this mindset will lead to even more postponement. Just add them already!

Last edited by andrefs; 05-26-2015 at 06:07 AM.
05-26-2015 , 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by UPAY4DINNER
So there is the Supersonic on Sundays at 23:30 GMT

Is there any chance of having a "Semisonic" at roughly the same time?

There is a $27 Hyper $15K Gtd at 22:45 GMT, double that GTD on Sundays and watch it boom! Don't even have to create a new tournament either!
On top of this, I think you should consider giving the low stakes players some extra prestige on a Sunday.

Like an $11 Kickoff, a $27 Warm Up and other low Sundayaments.
05-26-2015 , 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by broken_jia
Pretty disappointed in the Stud and Draw week promotion.

Compared to the Omaha weeks that ran in the past, there aren't many opportunities for players to try out these games.
You are giving out players 5 x $1.50 tickets which can only be used for SNGs. This could have been much better planned if there were $1.50 MTTs that ran every 4-6 hours of each variant and players could try out the games in a MTT format where they have a shot at turning their $1.50 into $100 rather than the $5 a STT SNG pays.

Also, it would have been a lot better to juice up the guarantee for the $27 Red Tournaments (Stud, Razz, Stud 8, PL Draw, NL 2-7, FL 2-7, etc) with one tournament being highlighted each day with a 2x guarantee.

On Saturday and Sunday, it would have been a no brainer to increase the guarantees of the $82s as well since participation will increase with the $100 random prizes being awarded.

It's probably too late to change it now, just some food for thought. The current promotion does a poor job of promoting the games...
I have quoted your comment in PokerStars Promotions Suggestions thread since the people in charge of tournaments here have nothing to do with Promotions. Pls use this thread for PokerStars Promotions related thread: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...hread-1534866/

Def agree with increasing the gtds of daily $27 and weekly $82 , I thought this was a no brainer, @Luke and other people in charge, pls increase their gtd if its not too late and have all stud/draw tourneys 'happy hour' , $5.50 non turbo SD used to get 20-25 entrants but it got 44 entrants because of that happy hour tag.
05-26-2015 , 07:47 AM
GG Bryan, and good luck Luke. Remember playing against you, good to see a former highstakes MTT reg taking such an important spot at PS Headquarters.

Shame rebuys are slowly disappearing with their guaranteeds being lowered and lowered. To me it seems like rebuys are less interesting for Stars, as their %rake is lower than a regular tournament. The 11r at 14:00 CET for example used to have like 20k guaranteed (?), with it being $8k guaranteed at the moment. I think the suggestion has been done before, but turning this tournament into a 'daily rebuy' tournament with perhaps a 30 minute longer late registration would give it a huge boost. I, and with me many others, love playing deepstacked MTT poker (shame SCOOP is done). That is why I personally love rebuy tournaments. Having atleast one nice rebuy tournament a day would really be awesome.

I love it how some dieing tournaments are turned into a PSKO to give them a boost. For example the $77t 6-max this morning at 08:00 CET suddenly had 170 runners. Before this change it had like 100-120 runners top. In my opinion the guaranteed could be higher now ($6k guaranteed with a total prize pool of $12750 this morning). Make it something like 10k and it will attract even more runners I'm sure.

One more thing that just came to my mind: would it be an idea to turn either the 17:00 CET $82 hyper or the 18:00 CET $82 hyper into a PSKO? Just to have a different aspect to the whole 6m hyper game. What is everyone's opinion about this?
05-26-2015 , 08:31 AM
I think it would be great for people to be able to list the MTT lobby "FTP style" with little icons representing if the MTT is regular speed/turbo/hyper/KO/PSKO etc or at the very least be able to use abbreviations for the standard (non alternate tournament list layout) so that games such as the

$27 NL Hold'em [4-Max, Progressive Super Knockout]

would be listed as

$27 NLH [4M, PSKO]

Also every rebuy should have its late registration and rebuy period ending/add-on period starting synchronized, I'm sure I'm not the only one who has accidentally skipped a game (primarily the smaller stakes 3x turbos) because they were planning to register at the end of the rebuy period only to find out late registration closed just under 5 minutes earlier due to the break affecting the late registration period but not the rebuy period.
05-26-2015 , 09:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sect7G
Totally agree with this post. It's not players that don't like rebuys, it's just they haven't been given a fair shake. Take any non labelled tourney on Stars and tomorrow make it red and don't change the guarantee and within a week the prize pool will double.

Why haven't rebuy tourneys gotten any labelling? Instead we've seen a massive amount of new tourneys added to the schedule all labelled in red and for some reason they all seem to be turbo's or PSKO's or a combination of both. These tourneys are far more profitable to Stars then rebuys. And all of them will take players from other tourneys scheduled in similar time frames.

The line that players don't want rebuys is absurd. Pokerstars doesn't want rebuys.
There are more red rebuys than red pskos.
05-26-2015 , 10:42 AM
big fan of those Sunday Edition games last week

Can you guys try changing the color to dark green or red and see if that makes a difference compared to black font?
05-26-2015 , 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by blakkman08
wait, u re not leaving to vegas? ffs man...
Too bad for you! But I don't plan on grinding a lot besides sundays
05-26-2015 , 11:18 AM
Asian Online Poker Series only for Asians:

https://www.pokerstars.com/poker/promotions/aops/

IMO they should be running these type of series for each regionals during same period.
05-26-2015 , 11:20 AM
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The Asia Online Poker Series (AOPS) is only available to players who reside in Asia.
Pretty loose term for who can enter. What is the definition of "Asia"?

Last edited by Asjbaaaf; 05-26-2015 at 11:23 AM. Reason: obv know what asia means but it can be defined in a few ways
05-26-2015 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ORLY???
Too bad for you! But I don't plan on grinding a lot besides sundays
i call!

gl at the tables bro
05-26-2015 , 11:45 AM
They run ANZOPS only for Australia-NewZealand Players, so I don't think AOPS includes players from Aussie, Nz

https://www.pokerstars.com/en/blog/2...ir-130215.html
05-26-2015 , 12:59 PM


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Originally Posted by anuj22
Asian Online Poker Series
****, I've been trying to use this ticket for forever now.

WCOOP Asia 1 more time pls.

Also from what little information I can find online about WCOOP Asia 2011 it was over by the time they issued me the ticket. Thx for the troll job.
05-26-2015 , 01:02 PM
loool. have you tried to get it converted to a b109 ticket or someth with support seaking? im sure they will let you after 4 years

Last edited by Asjbaaaf; 05-26-2015 at 01:03 PM. Reason: no idea what the value is tbh idk why i said b109
05-26-2015 , 01:08 PM
Hi all,

Saturday SKO satellites have had their guarantees adjusted (Saturday only).

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Originally Posted by Pietro_MK
One thing to be fixed: the morning 11 6max turbo 4k only has 30 min late reg. pleeeease fix that. thanks.
I took care of this and redeployed all tournaments already in the lobby. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by fivetypes
Who's the intern then?


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Originally Posted by Asjbaaaf
agreed on untick option for "i'm ready"
This has been added to a list of development items. We’ll look for an opportunity to get it into a future build. In the meantime, I suggest you stop being un-ready.

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Originally Posted by I AmLegend11
Can you make the 11 Cubed a "Sunday Edition" labeled tournament as well?

It is almost identical in size to the 8 Cubed every day of the week, including Sundays.

Leaving the 11 Cubed out would make them a bit more lopsided on Sunday.
This is the same issue we run into with red tournaments and broadcast messages. The more you have, the less potent they become. Mid-stakes are well-represented in the list of “Sunday Edition” tournaments so I’m hesitant to add more at the moment.

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Originally Posted by mashxx
Sigh, agreed with straykatblutz - this is so frustrating, we've been discussing it for months and you keep delaying it and giving us even further dates to 'revisit the idea'? I call
I feel pretty strongly about the fact that the schedule is too large at the moment. It is important to remember that adding a Big $215 or Saturday $700 isn’t just adding one tournament—you have to add satellites as well. Five years ago every addition to the schedule probably provided incremental value. I do not believe that to be the case now. Additions need to be made thoughtfully with the understanding that existing tournaments are likely to suffer with every schedule enhancement.

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Originally Posted by Asjbaaaf
well i was thinking after that 90 minutes the structure will remain somewhat the same. game time stays the same etc etc. it will just allow more of the playerbase to enter by adding an extra 50% to late registration time
Well, surely I should wait to consider this until our table allocation issue is solved! I’m not convinced it is possible to have the structure stay ‘somewhat the same’ while still providing a reasonable stack at the end of a longer late registration period.

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Originally Posted by Protential
+1 to all of this.

TBH I think stars does a pretty bad job of setting good guarantees and it hurts their bottom line overall because of this.
I agree this is a weakness of ours. We’ve made operational improvements in the past few months to improve the efficiency of this process. We’ll get it right more often and (hopefully) spend less time working on it. I want to focus on tweaking the schedule. With that said, summer is coming and guarantees will have to be adjusted.

I am aware of and grasp all the arguments regarding guarantees made in this thread.

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Originally Posted by DoGGz
Everyone wants something added, nobody willing to give anything up. good luck!
Preach!

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Originally Posted by broken_jia
Congrats on the gig, Luke. I look forward to future interactions with you.

Any thoughts on improving the structure of the $530 PLO and PLO8 so that they are more inline with the Super Tuesday and Thursday Thrill?

Also, I wanted to make you aware of a separate thread that has been used to discuss non-holdem games. Will you be popping into that thread as well?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61...1/index24.html
I will take a look at the $530 Omahas in the next few weeks. I will take this as an opportunity to mention that non-Holdem/Omaha tournaments are a weakness of mine. Feel free to send me specific suggestions. I will need help and I hope you’ll continue to provide your assistance!

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Originally Posted by margenov
I've asked this before and I will ask it again - Can we expect a fix of the structure of Montly 100 FPP 30,000$ ? Something like Big structure with first levels 6 min, then 8 min and then 10 min levels?
I’ll look into this before I deploy the June VIP tournaments. I’ll check average run time and look at the current structure. Minor note: all of the VIP tournaments have been fully localised. This will take effect beginning with the June tournaments.

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Originally Posted by DanteA
Congratulations to your new position, Luke. Good luck to you, Bryan.

Luke, what do you think about a small/mid stakes rebuy tournament? $11 Sunday Rebuy, 44 Sunday Rebuy and the already existing 109 Sunday Rebuy?
I appreciate the continuity here, but I’m not looking to add umbrella tournaments. I’ll happily work with you all to tweak rebuys; however, it is a process and will take some time. I said above that I do not believe rebuys are popular. I’m not willing to spend money or add a new umbrella brand in order to force a format on our players.

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Originally Posted by burnJa
big fan of those Sunday Edition games last week

Can you guys try changing the color to dark green or red and see if that makes a difference compared to black font?
I very much like the way it looks now! It stands out just enough to look special but also isn’t intrusive.

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Originally Posted by andrefs
Really disappointing if we have to wait until august/september for the introduction of the big215 and Saturday 2-day. They were actually considered to be added in late April, but then the decition was made to wait until SCOOP was over. Now the argument is to wait because of the slow traffic during the summer months. And we get to August, with WCOOP getting closer, then this mindset will lead to even more postponement. Just add them already!
The reason isn't because of slow summer traffic. It is because the schedule is too large. Removing tournaments is my top priority at the moment.

Spoiler:
Note to self: the next time you become a public representative for a company, bring good news.


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Originally Posted by UPAY4DINNER
Welcome Luke

Please make it a priority to fix the schedule I'm the European morning to lunch.

It's been mentioned a million times over the years and nothing has been done!
I’ll be looking at the schedule holistically. I feel that 10:00-18:00 needs the least amount of attention, but everything else needs a closer look. What do you all think?
05-26-2015 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Asjbaaaf
loool. have you tried to get it converted to a b109 ticket or someth with support seaking? im sure they will let you after 4 years
Haha nope not yet, I actually kind of like it now, not sure I could consider parting ways with it for anything under a $1050 WCOOP ticket. ;D
05-26-2015 , 01:15 PM
05-26-2015 , 02:01 PM
Will say it again.

18:15 ET need a good low/mid stakes mtt.
5r is a crap, 4q is crap and 5$ 6max too. The guys who play up to 33$ have NOTHING worth to play for 1 hour ( we have h44, but is a turbo)
And, the 11c @ 19:15 ET needs the new structure

      
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