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03-24-2014 , 06:26 PM
Going to try and resist the temptation to play these given the ridiculous rake Stars have applied
03-24-2014 , 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Aaralynn



GOAT post.
03-24-2014 , 11:01 PM
I'm assuming the GTD on the micro PKO's will be raised eventually? The measly $1k GTD got blown out of the water today.
03-25-2014 , 12:48 AM
Yea they all got destroyed. I think for the $27s they should all be 10k and maybe 15k to the turbo one.
03-25-2014 , 02:36 AM
try and add some 54 prgko's in asap imo, and/or make the 265ko a progko, that would be fun.
03-25-2014 , 05:09 AM
Oh my good f$cking God! Finally stars has listened to the most requested thing in years, high raked progressive KOs! Noone wants 22$ 33$ 44$ 55$ regspeeds instead. NOONE. Yes please add 54$PKOs but be sure to make them 22$+22$+10$ otherwise I wont play. Heck change every f*cking regspeed to PKO and I may not jump outa my window!

And please we need more people patting stars on their back while bragging how rake is justified because they won two multi table tournaments. You cannot EAD!
03-25-2014 , 05:10 AM
hahahaha
03-25-2014 , 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by LebronB
Oh my good f$cking God! Finally stars has listened to the most requested thing in years, high raked progressive KOs! Noone wants 22$ 33$ 44$ 55$ regspeeds instead. NOONE. Yes please add 54$PKOs but be sure to make them 22$+22$+10$ otherwise I wont play. Heck change every f*cking regspeed to PKO and I may not jump outa my window!

And please we need more people patting stars on their back while bragging how rake is justified because they won two multi table tournaments. You cannot EAD!


Also TYVM Stars for listening us. I am so happy that I can add one more tournament to my early schedule. 2$ PKO turbo with 20% rake. Just WOW! That was just spot on what we needed between BIG16.50$ and BIG33$. Problem solved. U guys ROCK!!!
03-25-2014 , 11:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LebronB
Oh my good f$cking God! Finally stars has listened to the most requested thing in years, high raked progressive KOs! Noone wants 22$ 33$ 44$ 55$ regspeeds instead. NOONE. Yes please add 54$PKOs but be sure to make them 22$+22$+10$ otherwise I wont play. Heck change every f*cking regspeed to PKO and I may not jump outa my window!

And please we need more people patting stars on their back while bragging how rake is justified because they won two multi table tournaments. You cannot EAD!
I haven't heard one good argument why the bounty prizepool should not be raked, just a bunch of ****ing whiners like usual. Please name one good reason why it should not be raked? when 50% of what you win in these tournaments will come from the bounty. I hope you morons do boycott these tournys as they will be some of the softest on the schedule.
03-25-2014 , 11:56 AM
CUZ PAYING LESS RAKE IS COOL!

Last edited by blakkman08; 03-25-2014 at 12:08 PM.
03-25-2014 , 12:28 PM
In lonely pastures I sit and wait,
A rejuvenated mtt schedule I believed my fate,

The days melt into a stream of conscious thought,
Was the 27 PKO the one after which I sought?

With no one around to share in my desire,
Twoplustwo I approached, to join the eternal fire,

Through a glance in my eye, I saw the stars mtt thread,
It allowed me to relive memories I had long since shed,

Between the big 16.50 and big 33 I explored,
An abyss of emptiness, WHYYY?? I implored,

I wander the desert, searching for my mirage,
Is the $33 5k the big 44 in camouflage?

The art of a post, the art of a reply,
I am frozen in time, I no longer know the meaning of a lie,

Will this thread provide me answers?
Will they attempt to try?

Or will I find myself in tears,
While I grind the 8 rebuy..
03-25-2014 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ISmellToast
I haven't heard one good argument why the bounty prizepool should not be raked, just a bunch of ****ing whiners like usual. Please name one good reason why it should not be raked? when 50% of what you win in these tournaments will come from the bounty. I hope you morons do boycott these tournys as they will be some of the softest on the schedule.
What a genius you are, nice reading comprehension!

What a whiner I am for pointing out that like 80% of requests are new normal regspeed 22-55$ tourneys while stars gives us PKOs with increased rake instead.
03-25-2014 , 03:46 PM


Them early 33s tho, now just one between them 22fo and 55fo and i'll see that 27ko rake through the fingers.
03-25-2014 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ISmellToast
If anything the old rake was way too low and stars realized it.
jesus ****ing nuthugging christ will you please kill your self
03-25-2014 , 07:04 PM
it's not unreasonable to point out that the bounty element of PKOs offers a substantial edge to winning players, whereas the bounty element of standard KOs is essentially just a variance-reducer (is reducer a word? I hope so)

I'd definitely argue that the PKO bounty pool is distributed more equitably among the player pool than the prizepool of the tournament, so if it must be raked it ought to be at less than 10%. I have no figures to support this, and my own results are skewed by also having won the $27 PKO twice. Bragging is fun! But yeah, we could probably help our case by backing this assertion with some figures rather than just yelling OMG DOUBLE RAKE!! BASTARDS
03-25-2014 , 07:16 PM
should add an 11$ pko or two to the schedule, I know we already have the 180s at that range but these would get huge prize pools.
03-25-2014 , 07:27 PM
2.45/24.55
2.00/25.00

Last edited by 22riverrat22; 03-25-2014 at 07:29 PM. Reason: thats not all that can be said, but it cant be argued with, just restating facts
03-25-2014 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mcbogart
I'm assuming the GTD on the micro PKO's will be raised eventually? The measly $1k GTD got blown out of the water today.
That's a pretty safe assumption. The initial guarantees were set very conservatively. Once we have seen how these new tournaments play out for a while (a couple of weeks, at least), we'll have a better idea as to what kind of guarantee is sustainable for each.

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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
it's not unreasonable to point out that the bounty element of PKOs offers a substantial edge to winning players, whereas the bounty element of standard KOs is essentially just a variance-reducer (is reducer a word? I hope so)
Without getting involved in a debate about the rake on any particular tournament or set of tournaments, I will point out that the above is essentially the point which was reached when a very similar discussion was had regarding the PSKO S&G which was introduced in 2013. I think you were one of the ones to make it, in fact?

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Originally Posted by sirluckbox
should add an 11$ pko or two to the schedule, I know we already have the 180s at that range but these would get huge prize pools.
Given the popularity of the format, I can see expansion in the future, assuming that the popularity of the format doesn't wane.
03-25-2014 , 08:44 PM
inb4 ostrich gets banned for introducing KO rakeaments

cant wait to see the some major changes in the guarantees and the schedule overall gogogo
03-25-2014 , 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BryanS-PS
Without getting involved in a debate about the rake on any particular tournament or set of tournaments,
basically

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Originally Posted by BryanS
I won't comment on rake because 'we rake as much as players will bear because its profitable for Stars' will end up with a worse backlash than just ignoring you all.
and

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Originally Posted by BryanS
Progressive SKOs were given a 100% rake increase because we know you are going to play them anyway.
03-25-2014 , 11:25 PM
a healty plus one DoGGz
its really good for a business to have an abusive monopoly
its really bad for a customers base of an abusive monopoly



Quote:
Originally Posted by 22riverrat22
2.45/24.55
2.00/25.00
i was posting this not thinking that the rake being equal to a comparable non divided buyin was sufficient, just that it was a minimum anyone stars side could justify


its really good for a business to have an abusive monopoly
its really bad for a customers base of an abusive monopoly



there is a 9% chance stars gives up any ground "before they have enough time to collect sufficient data to determine whether or not a rake adjustment is required" and that 9% is reducing their bull**** to equal rake, not fair rake


its really good for a business to have an abusive monopoly
its really bad for a customers base of an abusive monopoly
03-25-2014 , 11:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LostOstrich
the bounty element of standard KOs is essentially just a variance-reducer

I'd definitely argue that the PKO bounty pool is distributed more equitably among the player pool than the prizepool of the tournament,
so if it must be raked it ought to be at less than 10%.


and it will be distributed increacingly more equitably throughout the field over infinite trials as the speed of the structure increaces
really tho, fix it you greedy shortsighted ########s


Last edited by 22riverrat22; 03-25-2014 at 11:47 PM. Reason: they should be raked less now; turbo rake should be even less than the fair price that we should already have
03-26-2014 , 12:02 AM
increACES?
03-26-2014 , 12:06 AM
I really wish you'd reply a bit more often Bryan. Everytime I see your pic in this thread I snap read your posts seeking ANY info on the new schedule.

Give us the gossip, the 411, the scuttlebug, what's going on over there at stars HQ? Give us a little something so we can atleast get a half chub goin

      
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