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03-27-2014 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TooRareToDie
^^ Then why does the NLO8 have a great structure? It was created way later than the old PLO/PLO8/LHE etc Weekly's, so I don't think that this is a case of the edge-flattening, but just a lack of change happening.

I would bet a small amount that the structures of the old Weekly's will be changed for the better when the new schedule is finally out.
I hope they get improved... and it could be just an oversight etc for the poor structures but it's been years and people on here have voiced their want for change.
03-27-2014 , 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Sect7G
I hope they get improved... and it could be just an oversight etc for the poor structures but it's been years and people on here have voiced their want for change.
The structures of the $215 Omaha variants will be looked at very soon, I guarantee it. WCOOP-CS2 is taking up the majority of my attention at the moment, but I'll take a hard look at them on Monday/Tuesday.

Thanks for the reminder, everyone.
03-27-2014 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BryanS-PS
The structures of the $215 Omaha variants will be looked at very soon, I guarantee it. WCOOP-CS2 is taking up the majority of my attention at the moment, but I'll take a hard look at them on Monday/Tuesday.

Thanks for the reminder, everyone.
Ty sir. If you could look at the LHE event as well I'd be happy too!
03-27-2014 , 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BryanS-PS
The structures of the $215 Omaha variants will be looked at very soon, I guarantee it. WCOOP-CS2 is taking up the majority of my attention at the moment, but I'll take a hard look at them on Monday/Tuesday.

Thanks for the reminder, everyone.
That's great, much appreciated. Thank you.

The NLO8 has antes, but the general structure of blinds should be pretty close to optimal for PLO/PLO8, too, imo. Just taking out the 350/700 level, and going 5k,6k,7k,8k bb to skip a second blind-level of the NLO8 structure could even out the lack of antes of the PLO/PLO8 efficently, imo.
Giving all of them 5K (or at least 4K) chips would really underline the special character of the Weekly's in comparsion to all the daily events with 3k starting-stacks.



Also, I think that beside the LHE (and LO8), especially the HORSE could really need a new structure, too. It has the biggest field-sizes/guarantee of all Limit-Weekly's, but just 3000 chips and 12 minutes blinds, while there is no other Weekly with that just 3K, or just 12 min levels. Instead of using the structure of the 11$ daily HORSE-MTT's, 15 minutes and 4K starting stacks would be appropiate with the current blind-levels, imo.

IIRC, there was a general agreement on here that all the Limit-Weekly's would really profit of having the first 4-5 levels at 50/100 blinds to start with, instead of starting with tiny blinds, to increase field-sizes and early action. This, plus 4K starting-stacks and a similar structure for all Limit-Games would likely be the best way to go, imho.


Cliffs:

- Omaha-Weeklys with 4-5k starting stacks, and close to NLO8's structure

- All Limit-Weeklys with 4k starting stacks, and 4-5 levels of 50/100 to start, then proceed with levels as in current HORSE, but with 15 minutes instead of 12.

Last edited by TooRareToDie; 03-27-2014 at 07:37 PM.
03-27-2014 , 10:05 PM
hey, on saturday in the lobby i dont see the big 162, big 55, big 109 etc but they are there on sunday. wug?
03-27-2014 , 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
hey, on saturday in the lobby i dont see the big 162, big 55, big 109 etc but they are there on sunday. wug?
I can see them, they're definitely there, must be a problem on your end
03-28-2014 , 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TooRareToDie

IIRC, there was a general agreement on here that all the Limit-Weekly's would really profit of having the first 4-5 levels at 50/100 blinds to start with, instead of starting with tiny blinds, to increase field-sizes and early action. This, plus 4K starting-stacks and a similar structure for all Limit-Games would likely be the best way to go, imho.
Yes! For SCOOP this change is made (for some of the events at least) but the weeklies still have a bad structure in that regard. I usually just latereg by 30 minutes so I don't have to play 20/40 with 4k stacks in badugi or 2-7. For a $215 tourney that is equivalent to playing a 1$/2$ cashgame and is hard to justify for anyone that wants to play for $215.
03-28-2014 , 10:06 PM
^^ If a guy with 2006 join-date and just 307 posts agrees here, I think Bryan should get the hint
03-30-2014 , 10:35 PM
hey its posible to extend the late reg of nightly 55? its only one hour.. i think 2 hours or at least 1.5hs is much better. ty!
04-02-2014 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by fcs_82
I've looked a little into this situation of raking progressive KO's. Let's assume that the industry standards that have been set before the introduction of PKO's are "fair". This means that the rake in freezeouts of 0.0909% (10+1) and no rake on regular KOs has been established as "fair".

From my perspective, I think it is fair to say the progressive part of the KO should be raked since the money accumulates all the way to the end. That part, I think, would be fair to rake similar to a freezeout. So in the case where half the bounty gets added to your own bounty, 50% of the bounty would get raked. When it comes to PSKO's, half of the non-raked buy-in should go towards the prize pool and half towards the bounty on your head.

All this means is that 100% of the freezeout would be raked at 0.090909% and 50% of the PKO at the same rate. So the rake for PSKO's would be 0.0682. In the end, the buy-in would be 12.58 + 12.58 + 1.84 for a $27.

Though I feel the KO part of the PSKO's should be raked, I feel we are significantly being over raked relative to the industry standards that have already been set. Take into account that the beta PSKO's were 13 + 13 + 1 and this rake increase feels a whole lot worse.

and a 10+1 timed turbo tournament that only lasts 15 minutes at most by definition that we all complained about at their release is still chugging along getting small fields a year(?) after its initial release



this new status quo stars is establishing of rake the tourney player as hard as possible..... its not good bryan
04-03-2014 , 06:54 AM
there was a €320 hyper satellite for san remo scheduled for 1pm GMT today, i woke up early for this and its been removed. Thanks a lot stars, what is you're problem
04-03-2014 , 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Jabracada
there was a €320 hyper satellite for san remo scheduled for 1pm GMT today, i woke up early for this and its been removed.
The tournament was removed due to the server restart currently in progress. While the site will almost certainly be back up in time for the tournament you mention, the satellites to it needed to be removed, so the target had to go, as well. Sorry for the inconvenience!
04-03-2014 , 01:39 PM
I'm not sure where to post this but on pokerstars.fr the scoop are running and they removed some of the daily tournaments like the 100euro night on stars ,50sixmax and 250euro sixmax. This is kind of beyond me, I see no logic in cutting them for the wholl series. Can you please explain or reverse this?
04-03-2014 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaSquirrel
I'm not sure where to post this but on pokerstars.fr the scoop are running and they removed some of the daily tournaments like the 100euro night on stars ,50sixmax and 250euro sixmax. This is kind of beyond me, I see no logic in cutting them for the wholl series. Can you please explain or reverse this?
+1
Its quite embarresing to be honest. The whole excitement around these series is pretty much non-excistent due to it being litterally the only tournament to play each day, even when theres a PLO or limit scoop theyre cancelling the big NLHE's.
04-03-2014 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaSquirrel
I'm not sure where to post this but on pokerstars.fr the scoop are running and they removed some of the daily tournaments like the 100euro night on stars ,50sixmax and 250euro sixmax. This is kind of beyond me, I see no logic in cutting them for the wholl series. Can you please explain or reverse this?
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Originally Posted by Sharkament
+1
Its quite embarresing to be honest. The whole excitement around these series is pretty much non-excistent due to it being litterally the only tournament to play each day, even when theres a PLO or limit scoop theyre cancelling the big NLHE's.
+1000 stars.fr is bare schedule wise during scoop its pretty poor, on.com when a big series is on the bigs/hots/dailys are even better to play because the traffic juices them up so much, they should be added back in imo
04-03-2014 , 01:58 PM
jesus i was so looking forward to that 250 psko wtf people
04-03-2014 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaSquirrel
I'm not sure where to post this but on pokerstars.fr the scoop are running and they removed some of the daily tournaments like the 100euro night on stars ,50sixmax and 250euro sixmax. This is kind of beyond me, I see no logic in cutting them for the wholl series. Can you please explain or reverse this?
+1 WHHHHHY
04-03-2014 , 03:39 PM
+1
04-03-2014 , 10:21 PM
Please, some kind of option that makes it impossible to be eliminated while disconnected during the rebuy period.
04-03-2014 , 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by gollyheck
Please, some kind of option that makes it impossible to be eliminated while disconnected during the rebuy period.
yeah this is quite a tilting experience. defo +1
04-04-2014 , 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ThaSquirrel
I'm not sure where to post this but on pokerstars.fr the scoop are running and they removed some of the daily tournaments like the 100euro night on stars ,50sixmax and 250euro sixmax. This is kind of beyond me, I see no logic in cutting them for the wholl series. Can you please explain or reverse this?
+1
04-04-2014 , 04:54 PM
+1 to the big tournaments being removed on fr, seems totally absurd!
04-05-2014 , 06:34 AM
there is ONE satty to EPT mega satellite today, these need to be deployed for today asap
04-05-2014 , 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Jabracada
there is ONE satty to EPT mega satellite today, these need to be deployed for today asap
I think I understand why they haven't deployed them. But I think they are taking a huge risk and should have these run every hour.
04-05-2014 , 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Sect7G
I think I understand why they haven't deployed them. But I think they are taking a huge risk and should have these run every hour.
It's lose lose for players and stars

      
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