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12-30-2015 , 09:24 AM
No more 235 Fpp Sunday Storm Satellites? ((
Please leave them until the new year!
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12-30-2015 , 10:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by haMMerG77
No more 235 Fpp Sunday Storm Satellites? ((
Please leave them until the new year!
Because of the difference in value, we could not do that. However, we have pushed forward the start time of all FPP 6-Max hypers for the Bounty Builders by 2 hours. This means that 2 hrs and 45 minutes before each target, these satellites will be available.

This will be in effect until midnight tomorrow (ET)

Thanks,
Baard
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12-30-2015 , 12:08 PM
make it like 4 and it's a lot better
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12-30-2015 , 09:58 PM
wed 320 last chance hyper starts during the sync break
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12-31-2015 , 02:32 PM
Hello all,

From midnight Eastern Time (barring any unforeseen events), we will deploy a completely revamped Sit & Go satellite schedule. It will cover a lot more tournaments than have been the case in the past, and will, to a large degree, be standardized across the various targets.

The main tournaments (All Weekly Majors, Bigs, Hots and Bounty Builders) will have Sit & Gos to all non-rebuy targets. For the regular guarantees, all $11+, non-rebuys will have Sit &Go satellites. In total this is currently more than 1,500 tournaments per week. In addition, we will have full coverage of all tournament series and special events as they come up. Expect to see TCOOP Sit & Go sats early next week, for example.

The main Sit & Go satellite will be the 4 max Hyper double shootout, which for most tournaments will start two hours before the target. In addition to this, every target will also have 6 max hypers, both StarsCoin and Cash. These, however, will often only start running within 5 to 30 minutes before the targets’ start time.

Heads-Up tournament will have HU satellites only.

All Sit & Go satellites will run as deep into the targets’ late registration as possible. This is something that we have already been doing for some time, but will now be standard for all of these types of satellites.

For the bigger and more popular tournaments, there will be other Sit & Gos running as well, for example 9-max turbos and 4 max, 4x shootouts. These major tournaments, will usually have Sit & Go satellites start earlier than I described above. Hopefully, it will not take you long to familiarize yourself with the new offering.

The main reason for these changes is that we want to make the Sit & Go satellite offering consistent across the MTT offering. If you know the start time of the target, you will also have a good idea about which Sit & Gos will be running at what time. In addition, we want give more exposure to satellites that are successful in converting qualifiers into actual entries in the targets. The 6 max hypers, for example, do very poorly in this regard. Except for the time immediately before the target starts and in late registration, they often only convert only 1-2% of the seats won into tournament entries. In comparison, the 4 max double shootout very often convert 60%+.

We will be closely monitoring the effects of these changes, and it is quite possible that we will make adjustments as we go along.

Thanks,
Baard
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12-31-2015 , 03:07 PM
Still leaving the core 6m hyper-sats that are so popular in the lobby all week though right?

$357 > Tues/Thurs $1ks
$181 > Sunday500
$109 > Saturday Super-KO
$74 > Sunday Million
$37 > Sunday Kickoff

People love the games because of the fun, fast format, not just bc of the MTT prize on offer.
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12-31-2015 , 06:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by daddyrnac
Still leaving the core 6m hyper-sats that are so popular in the lobby all week though right?

$357 > Tues/Thurs $1ks
$181 > Sunday500
$109 > Saturday Super-KO
$74 > Sunday Million
$37 > Sunday Kickoff

People love the games because of the fun, fast format, not just bc of the MTT prize on offer.
I am thinking have those up for most of the week, but to take them down when equivalent sats are running for other targets. This way, they won't steal the 'thunder' of targets that might need more satellite support. I will probably not be able to organize that schedule immediately, so the satellites you mention will probably run for the majority of the first week, regardless.

Thanks,
Baard
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12-31-2015 , 06:26 PM
Check email (sent directly to Bryan and to the pokermanager address, you should be getting it from PS Alex or someone...was having it fwd'd to you)
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12-31-2015 , 09:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PokerStars Baard
I am thinking have those up for most of the week, but to take them down when equivalent sats are running for other targets. This way, they won't steal the 'thunder' of targets that might need more satellite support. I will probably not be able to organize that schedule immediately, so the satellites you mention will probably run for the majority of the first week, regardless.

Thanks,
Baard
There are 2 sides:
1) Use 6max hyper-sats to get recs into MTTs, collect low rake
2) Let 6max hyper-sats be played by all, optimise the schedule, collect lots of rake


Side 1:

How many more recs do you think you can seriously get into MTTs by changing the 6m hyper-sat options? And more importantly why are you concerned about getting more recs into MTTs?

Say you get 5 more players into a $1k, that's 5*50=$250 extra rake. There are two $1ks each week, so $500/week, or $25,000/year. This is the biggest MTT of the week. The s500 would be $6,250/year extra. Two $320s each week, might make $8,333/year more. Say 20 $215s each week makes you $78k/year.

We're looking at $117k extra in MTT rake. And can you really get 5 more players for every MTT just by increasing the 'thunder' factor for the sats? I'm not sure.


Anyway, lets look at what you will take from regs if you leave the hyper-sats as they are:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdawg91
This is with 45% RB: -$145,000ish POST RB in the same number of games played
http://i.imgur.com/GizLzQS.png
Side 2:
Pokerstars raked $924,591.82 from these players + $363,000 from slayerv1fan himself, less rakeback of 45% leaves $708,525.50 profit for Pokerstars. This image shows only games played by slayerv1fan, which is a relatively small % of total games played across all stakes, so the total Pokerstars make is far higher.


You are in control of games that are making millions in rake each year for Pokerstars, yet you are looking to remove these games and stop this income only to get a handful more recs into each MTT. Why?
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01-01-2016 , 02:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PokerStars Baard
Hello all,

From midnight Eastern Time (barring any unforeseen events), we will deploy a completely revamped Sit & Go satellite schedule. It will cover a lot more tournaments than have been the case in the past, and will, to a large degree, be standardized across the various targets.

The main tournaments (All Weekly Majors, Bigs, Hots and Bounty Builders) will have Sit & Gos to all non-rebuy targets. For the regular guarantees, all $11+, non-rebuys will have Sit &Go satellites. In total this is currently more than 1,500 tournaments per week. In addition, we will have full coverage of all tournament series and special events as they come up. Expect to see TCOOP Sit & Go sats early next week, for example.

The main Sit & Go satellite will be the 4 max Hyper double shootout, which for most tournaments will start two hours before the target. In addition to this, every target will also have 6 max hypers, both StarsCoin and Cash. These, however, will often only start running within 5 to 30 minutes before the targets’ start time.

Heads-Up tournament will have HU satellites only.

All Sit & Go satellites will run as deep into the targets’ late registration as possible. This is something that we have already been doing for some time, but will now be standard for all of these types of satellites.

For the bigger and more popular tournaments, there will be other Sit & Gos running as well, for example 9-max turbos and 4 max, 4x shootouts. These major tournaments, will usually have Sit & Go satellites start earlier than I described above. Hopefully, it will not take you long to familiarize yourself with the new offering.

The main reason for these changes is that we want to make the Sit & Go satellite offering consistent across the MTT offering. If you know the start time of the target, you will also have a good idea about which Sit & Gos will be running at what time. In addition, we want give more exposure to satellites that are successful in converting qualifiers into actual entries in the targets. The 6 max hypers, for example, do very poorly in this regard. Except for the time immediately before the target starts and in late registration, they often only convert only 1-2% of the seats won into tournament entries. In comparison, the 4 max double shootout very often convert 60%+.

We will be closely monitoring the effects of these changes, and it is quite possible that we will make adjustments as we go along.

Thanks,
Baard

Can you please take the time to explain , Why you care so much about players (manly hyper sat reg's, in this case) are using the target seat or not?

Because isn't this why PS created T $ to begin with, whether the hyper satellite players use the seat or not, the T $, when it get's exchanged/traded the money always stays on the site, you know this more then anyone else here,

So i have to ask you, Why is PS taking a step AWAY from T $ .

When it is such a good effective system of keeping a "digital currency" on the site, to be re-raked.

obviously im biased as , like a lot of people on these forums, been known to buy/sell T $ on regular basis (so take it with a grain of salt.) But,

I just don't understand why PS is ruining a really good monetary system that was created by the site, and has always benefited both the site and the player.
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01-01-2016 , 06:46 AM
2016 thread please
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01-01-2016 , 11:24 AM
I do not see the $7.25 Sunday Million 2x-shootout 6max 1-36 players SNG,

in the lobby anymore...........

it was there last night after the changes, and now its completely gone,

its usually in the lobby 7 days a week, please tell me this is _not_ changing, and its by accident.

If there are changes to that particular satellite in question, please inform us here, thanks.
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01-01-2016 , 11:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by daddyrnac
There are 2 sides:
1) Use 6max hyper-sats to get recs into MTTs, collect low rake
2) Let 6max hyper-sats be played by all, optimise the schedule, collect lots of rake


Side 1:

How many more recs do you think you can seriously get into MTTs by changing the 6m hyper-sat options? And more importantly why are you concerned about getting more recs into MTTs?

Say you get 5 more players into a $1k, that's 5*50=$250 extra rake. There are two $1ks each week, so $500/week, or $25,000/year. This is the biggest MTT of the week. The s500 would be $6,250/year extra. Two $320s each week, might make $8,333/year more. Say 20 $215s each week makes you $78k/year.

We're looking at $117k extra in MTT rake. And can you really get 5 more players for every MTT just by increasing the 'thunder' factor for the sats? I'm not sure.


Anyway, lets look at what you will take from regs if you leave the hyper-sats as they are:



Side 2:
Pokerstars raked $924,591.82 from these players + $363,000 from slayerv1fan himself, less rakeback of 45% leaves $708,525.50 profit for Pokerstars. This image shows only games played by slayerv1fan, which is a relatively small % of total games played across all stakes, so the total Pokerstars make is far higher.


You are in control of games that are making millions in rake each year for Pokerstars, yet you are looking to remove these games and stop this income only to get a handful more recs into each MTT. Why?

Pretty much this, as I said in my email. Really mind numbing to me that you are trying to kill one of the formats that literally makes Pokerstars a huge amount of $ per $ cashed out by players (compared to other formats....since pretty much everyone is losing a lot pre rb at this format), butttt...

I will add this too, after seeing the lobby today, as long as the $109>$320, $181>$530, $360>$1050 is in the lobby at all times (late reg games throughout entire late reg period to the target and then putting up a lobby for the next weeks target after late reg ends (like how the $360 for the Thursday Thrill appears about 10 minutes after the $360s for the Super Tueesday disappear)), along with the $74>$215 Sunday Mil and $37.50>$109 kickoff at ALL times, I am actually perfectly okay with what has changed; but I think the above 5 games are very crucial to have in the lobby at all times as having offerings at all levels drives the traffic (I've shown you this in past years during COOP times when the $700s were missing from the lobby for a while). I think if these things are true and everything else stays as is, you're creating a fair system from all POVs and I'm happy to support that

On that topic, again as I said in my email, I think the $240>$700 TCOOP ME + $720>$2100 TCOOP HR should already be in the lobby

Last edited by slayerv1fan; 01-01-2016 at 11:52 AM.
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01-01-2016 , 12:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lynx9292
I do not see the $7.25 Sunday Million 2x-shootout 6max 1-36 players SNG,

in the lobby anymore...........

it was there last night after the changes, and now its completely gone,

it's usually in the lobby 7 days a week, please tell me this is _not_ changing, and its by accident.

If there are changes to that particular satellite in question, please inform us here, thanks.
+1
That is a very popular format.
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01-01-2016 , 01:24 PM
why satellites are available only on running tournaments?
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01-02-2016 , 09:03 AM
Thank you for contacting PokerStars Support.

Please note that we have introduced several changes to our satellite offerings. Not only you can now find a much wider offer of satellite offerings, but they also run closer to the starting times of the target tournaments. We decided to do this so players have a better understanding of what satellites are running at all times, depending on what major tournaments are about to start. We also did this to avoid having players waiting for too long for the target tournament to start after winning their seat.

We trust that these changes will improve our players' experience in our tournaments. In case you have any feedback on this or anything else, please do let us know.


hyper satties dead?
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01-02-2016 , 11:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ferdion
Thank you for contacting PokerStars Support.

Please note that we have introduced several changes to our satellite offerings. Not only you can now find a much wider offer of satellite offerings, but they also run closer to the starting times of the target tournaments. We decided to do this so players have a better understanding of what satellites are running at all times, depending on what major tournaments are about to start. We also did this to avoid having players waiting for too long for the target tournament to start after winning their seat.

We trust that these changes will improve our players' experience in our tournaments. In case you have any feedback on this or anything else, please do let us know.


hyper satties dead?
I contacted support as well and quoted this specific satellite .

And they were.able to say , this particular satellite in question was believed to be changed to only start 5-30mins prior to start time just like the rest of them.......

It used to reg. In the lobby 7 days a week 24 hours day.

And on Sunday you can 6-8+ table no problem .

They just killed that. Competely removed . except just before target.

Worst change of 2016 for me, I hate this worse then the VIP changes , cause I'm.not platium+.
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01-02-2016 , 12:09 PM
So the 74$ 6max sat to Sunday Million is running all day
but the $7.25 Sunday Million 2x-shootout 6max 36 players will only be a few hours on Sunday?
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01-02-2016 , 12:28 PM
the only reason any 6max hypers are still running at all is as a concession to the SNE grinders. Stars clearly don't want people playing satelites for profit any more.
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01-02-2016 , 02:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LostOstrich
the only reason any 6max hypers are still running at all is as a concession to the SNE grinders. Stars clearly don't want people playing satelites for profit any more.
+1

They are phasing out T $ grinding for SNG's. as we can clearly see in.the lobby and by reading above PS admins post.
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01-02-2016 , 03:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PokerStars Baard
Except for the time immediately before the target starts and in late registration, they often only convert only 1-2% of the seats won into tournament entries.
How do the $7.25 DS compare to the $74 6max overall wrt conversion % ? And on sundays only ?
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01-02-2016 , 03:47 PM
So less than 24 hours before the SM, the new SNG offering for rec is: $74 6max against 5 pro grinders.. or a $0.90 with 256 players for 1 seat.

Nothing between $1 and $70.
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01-02-2016 , 04:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by solody
So less than 24 hours before the SM, the new SNG offering for rec is: $74 6max against 5 pro grinders.. or a $0.90 with 256 players for 1 seat.

Nothing between $1 and $70.
+1

I guess PS wants rec's to play $74 hyper SATs with 1 in 3 winners , against high stakes grinders ex SNE like daddyrnac

And not, $7.25 1 in 36 players

With less reg's and not as good reg's as the higher stakes reg',s.......

Makes sense too me.

NOT.
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01-04-2016 , 10:04 AM
RIP 36 mans.... So much good memories for many years...

From DarkAvenger3
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01-04-2016 , 12:37 PM
They put back the 36man sat to SM, 7.1$ buy-in.
Thank you for reconsidering this!
The ones for Sunday 500, and Super Tuesday are still not in the lobby though.
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