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02-17-2015 , 09:51 PM
Please add some satties for the 9M, like daily 10+, 8+, 5+, 3$ 2x 400FPP+. Prob a lot recs + regs like to play some other stuff then 1$ satts.

Why is there no more 22€ 3x sats for live events?
Those are the only ones i liked to play
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02-18-2015 , 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by BryanS-PS
Quite a few satellite types which cancelled consistently were removed from the satellite schedule, including the $2.22s. The $3.30 2x-Turbos remain. We've been making an effort to eliminate tournaments from the schedule which cancel all the time, to get rid of the negative player experience of registering for a tournament which does not play. In so doing, some tournaments which run occasionally, but which also cancel quite a bit, will disappear.


Good idea. I'll mention this to the person responsible for the $9M SM.
What about the 3x-turbo $1.65+R are those here to stay?

Would love too hear back on this question,

thanks
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02-18-2015 , 10:56 AM
Hi Bryan, 2 points regarding satellites that have been around for a while and there where no comments on them from you:

1-There are no sats for the weekly $215 omahas, could some be added ? They seem to work pretty good for the $82.

2-There was a lot of talk a couple month back of seeing if you could run something like steps MTT sats, which could actually help simplify the sats schedule as you woudnt need sats for the million, warm up, 2nd chance, etc..., just satelites for $215 tickets. The idea was someting like this:

$2.1K<--$700<--$215<--$82<--$27<--$7.50
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02-18-2015 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by schmette
Please add some satties for the 9M, like daily 10+, 8+, 5+, 3$ 2x 400FPP+. Prob a lot recs + regs like to play some other stuff then 1$ satts.
As the SM9A gets closer, more satellites will be offered. In the initial stages, as any satellites to it would compete with the regular satellites offered to the normal Sunday Million, promotional satellites are running to garner attention for the tournament, but the offering is limited. This is pretty standard for the offering in terms of what we do this far out from the target tournament.

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Originally Posted by lynx9292
What about the 3x-turbo $1.65+R are those here to stay?
They're the most popular and most successful satellite type in terms of getting players into the Sunday Million. I'll be very surprised to see them go, at any point, unless they're someday replaced by something even more successful.

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Originally Posted by ajei
1-There are no sats for the weekly $215 omahas, could some be added ? They seem to work pretty good for the $82.

2-There was a lot of talk a couple month back of seeing if you could run something like steps MTT sats, which could actually help simplify the sats schedule as you woudnt need sats for the million, warm up, 2nd chance, etc..., just satelites for $215 tickets. The idea was someting like this:

$2.1K<--$700<--$215<--$82<--$27<--$7.50
As for the weekly $215 Omaha variants, indeed we should have some satellites up to them. I'll work on that later today or tomorrow. Thank you very much for bringing this back to my attention. With so much going on at once, things can slip through the cracks, and this is one example.

As for MTT Steps, we've thought of running them, and have in fact run such things as the Step Bonanza tournaments (11 FPP+R 3x-Turbo, 100 Steps tickets awarded in each) in the past... but with our current technology, they have to have fixed prize pools. Given that, when we do run them, they generally award $27 tickets at the top and Step 1 tickets to the rest of the field which cashes. I do plan to run a bunch more in the near future.

As for MTT Steps which award higher tickets, I can certainly see doing so in the future, but we need technological improvements to the client which haven't come yet in order to be able to do so, I'm afraid. I'll look into this more in the near future to see if there is some work-around. I can tell you that we've tried this with S&G, running satellites to the Million which awarded $215 tickets that could be used in any $215 tournament on Saturday or Sunday, and the S&G didn't run even once... they just sat there, which is a bit worrying given that the Sunday Million is by far our most popular weekly tournament. Ultimately, I think, players want the flexibility of cash and/or T$. Having said that, your suggestion is certainly not without merit, and I'll give it some more thought in the near future to see if there's a way that it can be implemented.
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02-18-2015 , 03:30 PM
Why is there only 1 $74 Sunday Million 6-max hyper sat spawning? Why are there no Sunday Warmup sats?
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02-18-2015 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by bumpking
Why is there only 1 $74 Sunday Million 6-max hyper sat spawning? Why are there no Sunday Warmup sats?
WarmUp sats come in late on Saturday now, I think that's Ok.

But the Sunday Million sats being limited to 1 is crazy imo, especially with the Sunday9Million coming. Yet no other sats grinders have posted about it. I've done everything I can to get it back to 1>2>3 but I don't think anybody else actually cares, least of all PS.
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02-18-2015 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BryanS-PS
They're the most popular and most successful satellite type in terms of getting players into the Sunday Million. I'll be very surprised to see them go, at any point, unless they're someday replaced by something even more successful.

As for MTT Steps which award higher tickets, I can certainly see doing so in the future, but we need technological improvements to the client which haven't come yet in order to be able to do so, I'm afraid. I'll look into this more in the near future to see if there is some work-around. I can tell you that we've tried this with S&G, running satellites to the Million which awarded $215 tickets that could be used in any $215 tournament on Saturday or Sunday, and the S&G didn't run even once... they just sat there, which is a bit worrying given that the Sunday Million is by far our most popular weekly tournament. Ultimately, I think, players want the flexibility of cash and/or T$. Having said that, your suggestion is certainly not without merit, and I'll give it some more thought in the near future to see if there's a way that it can be implemented.
This is great news, very happy too hear this.

also T $ is here too stay I assume?

I agree as players we absoutely love T $ and the ability too convert and sell it and still keep the money on the site.
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02-18-2015 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by daddyrnac

There should be a second Sunday Million $74 satellite spawning once somebody sits the 1st game. For some reason today it is limited at 1 in the lobby, should be up to 3. Otherwise people will find it hard to register in time.
+1
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02-18-2015 , 08:01 PM
Thoughts on a single daily $215 turbo freezeout satellite to the weekly 1ks (super tues and thursday thrill) throughout the week? put them 2 hours apart with 60 mins late reg right in the middle of peak hour and they are sure to do well

i also think if you put a couple of super sattys on sundays ($215 freezeouts also) to the 1ks they will get huge and if you advertise them correctly it will result in a bunch of players playing the target tournaments that wouldnt other wise

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02-18-2015 , 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Asjbaaaf
Thoughts on a single daily $215 turbo freezeout satellite to the weekly 1ks (super tues and thursday thrill) throughout the week? put them 2 hours apart with 60 mins late reg right in the middle of peak hour and they are sure to do well

i also think if you put a couple of super sattys on sundays ($215 freezeouts also) to the 1ks they will get huge and if you advertise them correctly it will result in a bunch of players playing the target tournaments that wouldnt other wise
Prefer $109 reg speed with a 5kss.
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02-18-2015 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by keitho1986
Prefer $109 reg speed with a 5kss.
that's fine with me

feel like there is definitely room for at least 1 large daily freezeout satty to each of the 1ks. and definitely a huge hole in the sunday market for these.
If done correctly they could be the equivalent of the huge PCA sattys that get monster prizepools and a bunch of players gaining entry to the events.
$82 1r1a could be an interesting one and $215/$109 freezeouts can't possibly fail. bunch of feeders etc and you're laughin str8 to the bank.

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02-19-2015 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by bumpking
Why is there only 1 $74 Sunday Million 6-max hyper sat spawning? Why are there no Sunday Warmup sats?
I spent some time discussing this with the manager of the Tournaments Team just yesterday. More than 99% of the seats won in the $74 S&G to the Sunday Million are not used in the Sunday Million... the satellites are simply T$ generators, for the most part. We discussed this for quite a while, and the decision was made to keep the S&G spawning one at a time until Sunday. While I realize that this will upset 'grinders', ultimately the satellites are there to put players in seats, not to generate T$. We certainly don't mind players using S&G satellites (or any satellites) to generate T$, but that's not why they exist, and we certainly aren't in the business of creating extra opportunities to play for the sole purpose of T$ generation. For the time being, the decision has been made to keep the $74 re-spawning the way that it is at this time. I'm not saying that this is permanent, but that it's how it will be for now. We'll see what kind of effect (if any) it has on play in the actual Sunday Million in terms of players coming from the $74s. Given the fact that they're S&G, and that they'll be spawning like mad on Sunday in the hours leading up to the actual target tournament, I tend to expect that in terms of seats used in the Million itself, the effect will be negligible/null.
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02-19-2015 , 11:09 AM
What's the reasoning? How do you think it will increase seats used in the SM?
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02-19-2015 , 11:15 AM
The reality is that recreational players will find it harder to register for a single lobby, since regulars will be using software to register very quickly. I don't know how many recreational players use the 'register for an identical tournament if this one is full' tickbox but I imagine not very many.
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02-19-2015 , 11:26 AM
With Spin & Go's you say you are providing what people want to play and that doesn't matter if it detracts traffic from other games.

Yet when 99% of players want to play for T$ you decide it is not OK to let this happen?

Sure, the games aren't being used as originally designed but there is demand for the format/structure. Coca-Cola was originally invented as a cure for morphine addiction with the aid of a raging boner, but it was adapted during prohibition due to demand. Sats bring in a ton of rake for Pokerstars, lots of regs/regs play them, the ecosystem is OK right now. Why mess with it?
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02-19-2015 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by daddyrnac
With Spin & Go's you say you are providing what people want to play and that doesn't matter if it detracts traffic from other games.

Yet when 99% of players want to play for T$ you decide it is not OK to let this happen?

Sure, the games aren't being used as originally designed but there is demand for the format/structure. Coca-Cola was originally invented as a cure for morphine addiction with the aid of a raging boner, but it was adapted during prohibition due to demand. Sats bring in a ton of rake for Pokerstars, lots of regs/regs play them, the ecosystem is OK right now. Why mess with it?
+1

I dont understand Bryan's reply.

reg's are grinding sattys for T $ plain and simple, and they keep the games running,

they sell T $, someone else and that person uses that T $ to pay rake again.

so money stays on the site, it is a great concept and invention why are we now trying to stop grinders from grinding for T $ ??

Pokerstars gets there money, the person cashing gets there money, and the reciving player pays rake again just not in the target tournament.

obviously PS Admin knows this and so much more,

This is the catch of grinding on ANY poker site, the operators dont owe you anything. We can get rid of your games today or tommorrow no warning and nothing owed too you, we dont care if its your main income or side income, your games and/or T $ , could be gone today could be gone tommorrow.

I would like to see more commitment from the operators, we will offer such and such for atleast this time period and we will not remove it before such and such time, and give proper notice and consideration etc..
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02-19-2015 , 12:28 PM
Yeah, in fairness atleast 1-2 Stars own pro's are kbest known for grinding these games.

If you're trying to discourage it then this isn't a message you've been sending out at all and is likely a pretty significant revelation (if not unsurprising) for those that do "grind" them.
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02-19-2015 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BryanS-PS
I spent some time discussing this with the manager of the Tournaments Team just yesterday. More than 99% of the seats won in the $74 S&G to the Sunday Million are not used in the Sunday Million... the satellites are simply T$ generators, for the most part. We discussed this for quite a while, and the decision was made to keep the S&G spawning one at a time until Sunday. While I realize that this will upset 'grinders', ultimately the satellites are there to put players in seats, not to generate T$. We certainly don't mind players using S&G satellites (or any satellites) to generate T$, but that's not why they exist, and we certainly aren't in the business of creating extra opportunities to play for the sole purpose of T$ generation. For the time being, the decision has been made to keep the $74 re-spawning the way that it is at this time. I'm not saying that this is permanent, but that it's how it will be for now. We'll see what kind of effect (if any) it has on play in the actual Sunday Million in terms of players coming from the $74s. Given the fact that they're S&G, and that they'll be spawning like mad on Sunday in the hours leading up to the actual target tournament, I tend to expect that in terms of seats used in the Million itself, the effect will be negligible/null.
I appreciate the honesty in this. Even if I don't like the message.
I'm assuming this is also why the 2.22 2x's were cancelled as well.
Another front has been opened on the attack on winning players. Gotta cut into those T grinders profits.
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02-19-2015 , 04:07 PM
Still thinking stars should offer some hyper turbo triple up 6max sng to have a real game to grind with no target tournament attached to it, just 2x the same $ prize.
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02-22-2015 , 09:10 PM
This image shows ALL the hyper-sats available in the lobby right now:



In 50 minutes the $56s will go because the target MTT starts, in 1.5 hours the same will happen to the $18s.

Leaving a $37.50 and a $7.50 sat to MTTs in 3 hours as the only playable hyper-sats.

Pokerstars is missing so much rake, many people will go to play a fast 10bb triple-up format and find no offerings available. Why are you doing this?
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02-22-2015 , 09:23 PM
yep there could at least be some hyper 6m sngs around the clock to the next days edition of the b109/162/55 every day of the week.
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02-22-2015 , 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by daddyrnac
Pokerstars is missing so much rake, many people will go to play a fast 10bb triple-up format and find no offerings available. Why are you doing this?
To drive more traffic to Spin N Gos seems a good educated guess I'm afraid
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02-23-2015 , 08:46 AM
Hyp Sat to the Storm all the way.

I wanted to sat myself into the storm, unreg for next week and late reg the running Storm.

But no 3.75$ Sat available. Bad.
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02-23-2015 , 05:11 PM
may we please have back FPP satties to the big EPT satties? the 15k to the 700 were awesome, and adding one for the 530 range too cant be bad. pleaseeeeeeeee
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02-24-2015 , 08:49 AM
I have been thinking and have concluded that it would be a great idea to change the Steps into 6-max games. This would especially benefit the amount of Step 3’s+ that pop off. Wondered if this idea gets any love? Think there’s a great case for it…..

For much of the day a Step 3 will have the 3-4 or so “regulars” sat in a game waiting for it to fill up. The difference between waiting for 3 more players or 6 more players before it starts is highly significant. Not to mention that in general 6max is a more popular format.

Just took a look at how this would break down in terms of pay-outs and it works well. Obv the entrants to qualifiers multiplier is still the same…

One thing I did notice was at the $700 level the pay outs would look like this:
1st: 2100
2nd 700
3rd: 700
4th: T $520

Sometimes in a €/$700 step you’ll get some players try to come 5th to take the money, maybe you can change 4th place to a $530 ticket instead. Although tbh I don’t mind if that’s what some low stakes guy wants to do…it only helps traffic.

I really think you’ll see a significant increase in the amount of step games that start. 215’s basically only run on Tuesdays and Sundays (maybe Thursdays now).

A LOT of the regulars of this format are active in these very threads, so perhaps they can let you know if they approve of this idea or not.

Make this happen…

I will also email this to stars support. REally want this change.
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