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11-11-2009 , 09:38 AM
Well, I am truly gobsmacked and saddened, and almost wish I hadn't asked the question.

I looked him up on pokertableratings to see a weird graph - goes vertical at the beginning, then flat/slightly down for 240k hands. I honestly don't understand this. I'm rubbish, but my all hands graph goes silkily from bottom left to top right - I know he thinks better about the game than me, so how do you possibly run flat for 250k hands of cash? Bizarre.

Photoshopped - my last ~250k hands and the shape of FD's graph over same volume.

11-11-2009 , 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Deurdy
I hope for you that that will not be true. A lifetime of work is quite a long period.
Present Value ldo. Actually with interest rates this low I think quite a few folks would have Darvin beat.

And srsly I spent half an hour last night tossing and turning about how he thought playing bad at HU would somehow, via metagame, earn him another 3.5 mil in EV over his life.

And wtf is FD? Did I miss something?
11-11-2009 , 09:52 AM
Peru, now move up and rinse and repeat at 100nl imo..
11-11-2009 , 09:53 AM
Wow, I had no idea that happened w/ FutureDoc. That's terrible.

Speaking of SuitedSixes, I think he use to post the "All Milk Carton" team (missing 2p2ers). I often think about what happens w/ these guys. Does anyone remember Adrockuk, he use to grind small stakes STTs. I havnen't seen him in quite some time.

WSOP

The play at the FT table was atrocious. Cada may be a very a strong player and seems like a nice kid but his play was so POOR as was Moon's. I don't blame Moon for being aggro and putting pressure on the players but when he was getting 3 and 4 bet he has to get a clue that they aren't doing that to the chip leader w/ air. Such a joke.
11-11-2009 , 09:53 AM
The flatlining coincides precisely with when he moved down. Perhaps he just never retooled his game to beat lower stakes properly.
11-11-2009 , 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by _Towelie_
Since I've never met any of you guys IRL I'm probably pretty detached from the real culture, but I've never gotten the whole "hey can i play on your account" thing. Seems like a situation that's rarely beneficial for either party.
It's pretty common in Vegas for Americans to want to try out Euro sites.
11-11-2009 , 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by KoreanBuffet
Present Value ldo. Actually with interest rates this low I think quite a few folks would have Darvin beat.
Present value seems irrelevant, since Ditch Digger quoted we was not anticipating making more in a lifetime, so that should count for everything, but my comment was actually disregarding inflation rates.

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Originally Posted by KoreanBuffet
And wtf is FD? Did I miss something?
Was wondering the same thing..
11-11-2009 , 09:55 AM
So odds on the whole FD stepdad $100k thing actually happening? It seems weird he would make something like that up when times were still good. But supposedly his wife wasn't in the loop, which makes it very unlikely.
11-11-2009 , 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Deurdy
Present value seems irrelevant, since Ditch Digger quoted we was not anticipating making more in a lifetime, so that should count for everything, but my comment was actually disregarding inflation rates.
Well weren't you saying he SHOULD make more than that in a lifetime? The question is does it make up for the fact that Darvin receives his in one lump sum and may use it to earn more $$$...Or spew off calling 3 bet shoves with KJ sooted.

And apparently FD is futuredoc. I remember him being a poster from yesteryear
11-11-2009 , 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by KoreanBuffet
Darvin... may use it to earn more $$$
A highly unlikely scenario imo.
11-11-2009 , 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Deurdy
Peru, now move up and rinse and repeat at 100nl imo..
Lol I would, I wish - those tiny little bumps in the graph represent catastrophes that keep me close to busto!
11-11-2009 , 10:19 AM
colour coded notes OH BABBBY
11-11-2009 , 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Josem
I only lost money for a couple of t-shirts to him.

I just feel pity more than anything else for these people.
Brian (66's) was one of those guys you just couldn't help but like (sorta like Daliman w/o the whining crybaby thing)...I felt much worse about how I could misjudge somebody so badly than I did about the couple of bucs I lost due to him being my affiliate @ PP
11-11-2009 , 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by xPeru
Lol I would, I wish - those tiny little bumps in the graph represent catastrophes that keep me close to busto!
Sorta out of context here Joss; but good luck with the whole getting-rid of departed Father's gf thing
11-11-2009 , 11:10 AM
shut up woman get on my horse

Crappy story Scotty. You're right to post it, especially after FD went looking for steaks.
11-11-2009 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by xPeru
Lol I would, I wish - those tiny little bumps in the graph represent catastrophes that keep me close to busto!
Wouldn't be way better off getting staked for 100nl? It would mean you do not risk getting busto, and I'm not sure how much profit you are making now at the lower stakes, but you could probably do better at 100nl after deducting the staker's cut.

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Originally Posted by _Towelie_
A highly likely scenario imo.
FYP, he will put in on the bank, take interest, which is prolly more than his living expenses, and thus increase $$.
11-11-2009 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Scotty_12
My college president did the same thing, accidentally sending the entire school an email intended for his lawyer. The email admitted straight up that he had lied on his resume and work history to get the job, pretty funny stuff.
11-11-2009 , 12:25 PM
Deurdy,

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2263
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2265


In other news, I'm sad that the FD/suitedsixes dramabombs have had to resurface from their places beneath my furrowed brow.
11-11-2009 , 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by xxdanimalxx
I wonder where he heard the term 'metagame' and whether or not it was accompanied by a definition
he didn't use that word, but that was the idea. it was something like, "i wanted to play really sloppy and look like the pressure was getting to me and that i couldn't handle the situation"

that's insane about FD, i remember him sending me links to some FLA hotel he was staying in for like 12k/night.
11-11-2009 , 12:47 PM
Well my deepest apologies. Actually didn't spot the first post, but did read the second one, which is kinda strange since by the url they seem to be 2 posts apart.
11-11-2009 , 12:51 PM
Looking back to over a year ago when this all went down, I'm pretty surprised none of us that knew about it or had close friends effected by it outed FD on here formally until now. iirc it was pretty much only out of my respect for Scott and the thread of hope that Nate would come around that I didn't. Though, I sort of hoped it would never come up again after it happened unless it was in the form of Nate paying back all debt owed. Tough to relive these types of yesteryear occurrences.

I lent Nate 5k very soon after this happened (I wasn't fully aware of the situation yet). He paid me back about a week after he said he would, but with no major hassle in the end or anything. I know he tried to (and possibly is still trying to?) pay back Scott and possibly others. He's a piece of **** for how he handled the situation and continues to handle the situation, but I know it's a case of a really smart, good guy making a combination of really bad, shortsighted decisions that started him into a downward spiral and ended up costing him a lot in life (and no I'm not just talking about money). It's really sad, but it does happen. Really makes me value those close to me, both professionally and socially (or both, as the case may be), that have never (and hopefully won't ever) **** me over.
11-11-2009 , 01:10 PM
outside of swallowing, plugging your nose and blowing/sucking, messing around with your jaw, do u guys know of any good ways to equalize? i got messed up like 2 weeks ago doing a lot of driving in hilly areas and falling asleep while passenging and it's annoying as hell.
11-11-2009 , 01:18 PM
The FD case has all the earmarks of an addict IMO, either drugs or gambling.
11-11-2009 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by _Towelie_
Since I've never met any of you guys IRL I'm probably pretty detached from the real culture, but I've never gotten the whole "hey can i play on your account" thing. Seems like a situation that's rarely beneficial for either party.
+1

I mean, i can see some reasons like playing on sites you don't have access to or that regs will have no reads on you.

All stories about "x played on y's account" ended in someone being a degen or losing his red pro status...

      
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